AVR with pre/pro outs

[Opips2]

Originally Posted by BACsader

First, off, I don't understand about half of the stuff you just said. Secondly, where on Earth did you get the amount of power you need for distance. Watts have nothing to do with the distance with which you are listening to a source. Honestly, someone needs to just close this thread so this guy doesn't put any more useless information on it.

I can't explain you because u don't understand.

So, this is important your ear. if you not care, become deaf or hard of hearing.

[BACsader]

This will be my last post on this thread. I understand audio pretty well. You make rediculous claims and your typing is almost illegible. The last sentence you wrote I don't know what you mean. Done

[got rice]

Originally Posted by Travis

A few questions need answering.
Not all a/v receivers can be connected to an amp because of pre/pro outs, right?

If I want to buy a AVR and later in the furure hook it up to a 5.1 or 7.1 channel amp, what are some options? I like Marantz.

Music is not a big concern, blu-ray 90% of the time.

Or should a pre/pro processor and amp be the way to go, from the start.

My budget B&W 600S3 speaker set-up is not a factor, hope to replace them with midrange B&W or other.

What AVR is out there that has pre/pro outs for the future? Even if I don't go for an amp now, years down the road the option is there.

Marantz is a quality piece of equipment. They seem to have a great reputation, never heard anything negative about them.

Check this website out, they have a good selection of Marantz equipment and offer reasonable prices. http://www.accessories4less.com/make...ceivers/1.html

I can't find the coupon code...I know Crackinheadz has posted one recently. You may want to PM him. Save some$$$

[Opips2]

Originally Posted by BACsader

This will be my last post on this thread. I understand audio pretty well. You make rediculous claims and your typing is almost illegible. The last sentence you wrote I don't know what you mean. Done

I've ordred amps 7-channel. it's too late! Outlaw Audio send to deliever on March 10.

you asked me. What i said to you?

[Opips2]

Originally Posted by John72953

Hey Opi,

I understand you probably need to play your system louder than most, but where did you get this information from? It doesn't make sense to me!

John

I missed the website and can't find the website. I'm very sorry. I throught to internet biggest in the world.

[PS3+HDDVD OWNER]

I believe i'm in the same situation as the OP, i bought the Onkyo 605 and later realized i wanted to add an amplifier to my setup. Currently i'm looking at the Yamaha 663 myself. Seems to be a great receiver for the money, and has Pre-Outs. Might be your best option for that price range.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by PS3+HDDVD OWNER

I believe i'm in the same situation as the OP, i bought the Onkyo 605 and later realized i wanted to add an amplifier to my setup. Currently i'm looking at the Yamaha 663 myself. Seems to be a great receiver for the money, and has Pre-Outs. Might be your best option for that price range.

So the 605 doesn't have pre-outs?

My old receiver has them so I think I will get an amp first, if not happy I'll for a new recever aafter that. But I want to give my old AVR its day in court before it gets sentenced to life in a box, stuffed in a closet.

[crazyBLUE]

I don't know about anyone else ~ But for me , Every time I see >

AVR with pre/pro outs

Just bothers me !!!

[Opips2]

Originally Posted by Travis

So the 605 doesn't have pre-outs?

My old receiver has them so I think I will get an amp first, if not happy I'll for a new recever aafter that. But I want to give my old AVR its day in court before it gets sentenced to life in a box, stuffed in a closet.

if you can sale for old AVR in blu-ray or ebay.
if you still love old AVR then second room living or bedroom.

please don't in a box for life!! give freedom!

[Blown 4.3]

well, the dude is from canada, french canadian i bet. learning english, and still learning. word for word translations can and will sound the way he speaks. perhaps a translation program ?

[Travis]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

I don't know about anyone else ~ But for me , Every time I see >

AVR with pre/pro outs

Just bothers me !!!

crazyBLUE,
Please elaborate.

I feel my AVR can do what I want it to. So, I can save, a grand at least, by not buying a separte amp and a seperate receiver at this time. I can spend some nice cash on a nice amp and later down the road pick up the other piece. Also, it is easier to sneak Audio equipment by my wife one piece at a time. I know

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Travis

crazyBLUE,
Please elaborate.

I feel my AVR can do what I want it to. So, I can save, a grand at least, by not buying a separte amp and a seperate receiver at this time. I can spend some nice cash on a nice amp and later down the road pick up the other piece. Also, it is easier to sneak Audio equipment by my wife one piece at a time. I know

OK Travis !
I went back some & you're receiver has Pre-outs right ! I would get the nice amp because you can upgrade the receiver down the road ! Because you're receiver is older , After you get the amp the only thing I would watch for would be If the receiver is getting to hot , IT may or may not ! My amps are cooler than my receiver & they have been on since 10:00 am . But my stuff is newer !!

[crazyBLUE]

BTW ! Travis . GOOD LUCK TRYING TO SNEAK A 80 TO 100 LB. AMP PAST WIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Travis]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

BTW ! Travis . GOOD LUCK TRYING TO SNEAK A 80 TO 100 LB. AMP PAST WIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's okay, she is blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.

Going to hell for that one.

disclaimer: Maggie if you read this, it is just a joke. Sorry, not funny.

[gamer2600]

Looks like the only thing that you are missing currently from your receiver is the ability to pass everything through an HDMI output considering yours has none. What type of TV do you have? Is it 1080P? Just asking because I am trying to figure out how your setup currently is all hooked up. I am assuming you are taking an HDMI straight from your blu-ray player to the TV and then just letting the receiver handle the audio distribution?

[PS3+HDDVD OWNER]

Originally Posted by Travis

So the 605 doesn't have pre-outs?

My old receiver has them so I think I will get an amp first, if not happy I'll for a new recever aafter that. But I want to give my old AVR its day in court before it gets sentenced to life in a box, stuffed in a closet.

Travis, the 605 unfortunately does not have pre outs. Reading through your thread, i believe you could make the Marantz receiver you own work with an amplifier however. What are you looking at running, 5.1...7.1?? Also, what kind of Blu Ray player are you running? PS3 will decode lossless audio for you so you wont need a receiver that decodes the new formats if you have a PS3. If you could list your entire setup, that'd be a big help.

As far as amplifiers are concerned, I keep hearing very positive things about Emotiva, their XPA-7 is the one i'm going to look into buying. About $500-600 there.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by gamer2600

Looks like the only thing that you are missing currently from your receiver is the ability to pass everything through an HDMI output considering yours has none. What type of TV do you have? Is it 1080P? Just asking because I am trying to figure out how your setup currently is all hooked up. I am assuming you are taking an HDMI straight from your blu-ray player to the TV and then just letting the receiver handle the audio distribution?

Other than PS3, nothing else with HDMI running. PS3 picture to TV via HDMI.
About my purhases:
1. Bought PS3 to tide me over until Blu-ray players become more mainstream and have better loading time. In 2 years or so can buy the proper player. PS3 will move to other room with TV.

2. Bought 32" Tohiba Regza 32C3000G (made in Japan). I like Taiwan, but everyone reccomended buying Japanese is usually better. TV has 2 HDMI, more than I need now. TV had to fit in a Home Theater shelf that was built into the wall. No choice on size. TV is 720p, at this size it is fine, at time of purchase 1080p were all 37" and up.

Good news, we just got a new home, no built in shelves, buisness is good, and my wife is going to let me buy a nice big 1080p 52" Sony, she says she can acept up to 100,000TWD about 2,800USD.

Hopefully if things stay the way they are, I can get a new TV, 2 front speakers and an amp in here within a year. Next year will be new Blu-ray player (still waiting for a few generations to go by).

However, everyhting costs twice as much for me. If I buy a 1000 dollar amp, she will buy a 1000 dollar purse. ex: I got a PS3 she got the 10" Asus EeePC.

Old AVR, amp is 85W per channel. Good for what I have now. Not sure if it will be enough for the B&W704s that I've been dreaming about.

[gamer2600]

You will be fine with a 85W amp you just won't be driving those speakers the way they should. Mainly you won't be able to turn the volume up and not start getting them to distort or hiss. As far as getting the HD audio codecs on your receiver you can check Crackinhedz thread about getting lossless audio with a receiver that doesn't have HDMI. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=17648 You might find some useful information there. As for the rest of the setup, I personally would go get a 1080P TV first that way you are set and can utilize the blu-ray video specs to their fullest. Ultimately you would probably want to get a newer receiver with HDMI capabilities and then find a good match in speakers.

[gamer2600]

btw...$2800 for a TV budget you could get something real nice...I recommend Samsung or Sony for LCD and Pioneer for Plasma. IMO