Terrence Howard Still Pissed About Iron Man 2

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by Rblu-Dblu

I really didn't see anything wrong with what he said. He was promised something and then that promise went unfulfilled. He's not wishing ill will towards Cheadle. The only thing he said that could be perceived as negative was when he talked about Downey Jr. and that actors should stick together. I don't have a problem with anything he said in that interview.

correct. terrance howard did nothing wrong. people (in general mind you) just like to piss and moan sometimes it seems.

Originally Posted by connect42

I love Terrence Howard. "Hustle & Flow" is one of my favorite movies, loved him in "Crash", and everything else he has been in. However, I disagree with his complaint at it's core. Most of the time actors are paid a set fee for their services and that fee is usually not based on what the movie makes at the box office. If that was the case he would owe the studio money for "Pride", "Idlewild" and a few other movies that didn't make back what the studio thought they would.
Now, if they actually promised him one thing and did another, then that is just not right.

not true at all. a lot of times actors are giving deals whereby the get a cut of the profits. it happens a lot.

Originally Posted by Beast

Bingo. They let him go cause he was the first to be signed for Iron Man, and his contract supposedly made him the highest paid actor in the film. Even higher than RDJ. Since they apperantly overpayed when signing him. That's why they didn't bring him back, cause they would have had to overpay him again.

that well may be, but it doesn't mean he doesn't raise some valid points.

Originally Posted by lojack1976

Wow...I see there's a lot of hate for this guy. I don't see where he said anything wrong. So his role wasn't that big in the first movie. I thought he did pretty much all that could be done with the material. There was nothing dynamic about the role at all. It was basic. Basically his character was a carpet to be walked all over and I think he took the footsteps quite well. Its not his fault that they agreed to pay a high salary for a small supporting role. If they didn't think he was worth it they wouldn't have agreed to it. He's a big name and they obviously wanted his name attached to the project.

Don't get me wrong, Howard is not the best actor on earth, but he's definitely competent and much better than he was early in his career. His performance in Dead Presidents, Crash, and Hustle and Flow were excellent. My biggest problem with all of the bashing of this guy concerns his statement about the contract. If you are contracted for one thing and its not fulfilled then you would be pissed too. What if you were offered a job and they told you that it paid $20/hr. and when you got your check it was $15/hr. I don't think any of you would be happy.

If they were supposed to give him a chunk of the profits and didn't then the studio is in the wrong. Then, and this is pretty well known, they offered a low-ball figure for the sequel to him and other members of the cast. The offers had to be pretty insulting for so many actors to balk. Its not like it was just one or two. Nearly everyone complained. I'm sorry but that's not good business, and if you think he's wrong to be angry then I will assume that you also would do that sort of thing to your employees. Greed is a bad thing. Its easy to point the finger at the actor and call him greedy for wanting more, but when the corporations are raking in this sort of cash and refuse to fulfill their agreement...key word...agreement...then who's the villain then?

If Howard is lying about his contract not being fulfilled then that negates everything I've already said, but ask yourself...why would he lie about it? He's done so many movies he certainly doesn't need the money. I'm sure he wanted to reprise his role and he was offered it. They obviously didn't want to fulfill his previous contract nor did they want to pay a reasonable sum for an expanded role in the sequel. If you don't like him as an actor that's understandable. There are many actors that people like whom I despise. Whatever floats your boat...but from everything that has come out its the greedy corporation that's in the wrong from where I sit. A man's word is everything and a deal is a deal and it appears they broke it.

i'm in complete agreance with you on this. people are blowing this all out of proportion. your points are very spot on.

[Dotpattern]

Howard needs to build a bridge...and get over it.

[Plasmachick]

Originally Posted by connect42

I love Terrence Howard. "Hustle & Flow" is one of my favorite movies, loved him in "Crash", and everything else he has been in. However, I disagree with his complaint at it's core. Most of the time actors are paid a set fee for their services and that fee is usually not based on what the movie makes at the box office. If that was the case he would owe the studio money for "Pride", "Idlewild" and a few other movies that didn't make back what the studio thought they would.
Now, if they actually promised him one thing and did another, then that is just not right.

It depends on what's in his contract. If his contract stated that he would get money on the back end then he was entitled to it. Its not uncommon for studios to "hide the profits" and say they made less than they actually did once the final accounting is over. If he was to get money on the back end then its a legitimate gripe.

[vanishingpoint]

If I were him, I would've done almost anything to get my very own War Machine trilogy.

[jadedeath]

I say we hook him up infront of a wind turbine, he could power LA for a month with his whining.

Logan

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

not true at all. a lot of times actors are giving deals whereby the get a cut of the profits. it happens a lot.

Name 5 instances in which this has happened.

The only one that I really know of {and the actor had the clout to pull it off} was Keanu Reeves for the Matrix sequels.

Everything else results {mostly} in the actor getting a set rate, just like the producer, the writer, the gaffer, etc. etc. etc.

i'm in complete agreance with you on this. people are blowing this all out of proportion. your points are very spot on.

If you don't sign on for another sequel or walk away from the table, you should reap what you sew and shut the hell up about it.

Logan

[Steve]

I've heard a few times that he was very difficult to work with on the set, and that also played a role in him being replaced. I have no idea if that's true or not. Anyway, IMO I'm glad to see Cheadle getting the role. I like him better as an actor overall. I'm looking forward to seeing him in IronMan 2.

[Monkey]

Who f'd up and hired his ass for the first Iron Man? Well at least they learned and dumped his ass for the sequel

[cembros]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

Didn't he say something about he didn't get Lost because he was black and they don't let black guys on the show, lol.

black people seam to bother you, iv seen you make similar comments before. Whats that about

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Name 5 instances in which this has happened.

The only one that I really know of {and the actor had the clout to pull it off} was Keanu Reeves for the Matrix sequels.

Everything else results {mostly} in the actor getting a set rate, just like the producer, the writer, the gaffer, etc. etc. etc.

Logan

i believe Tom Cruise's salary from War of the Worlds was a percentage of the gross
thats the only instance i can think of
i didnt know about keanu's though

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by Diesel

i believe Tom Cruise's salary from War of the Worlds was a percentage of the gross
thats the only instance i can think of
i didnt know about keanu's though

That's right, I remember that now, but the problem with Howard saying that is the fact that Cruise's part is the main character, Keanu's part was the main character, and Howard's part was........... barely there.

I think he's just *****ing about the fact that Marvel didn't want to pay him even MORE money for the sequel because he probably came to the table with obscene salary demands based on the $300 million that Iron Man 1 made.

Logan

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

That's right, I remember that now, but the problem with Howard saying that is the fact that Cruise's part is the main character, Keanu's part was the main character, and Howard's part was........... barely there.

I think he's just *****ing about the fact that Marvel didn't want to pay him even MORE money for the sequel because he probably came to the table with obscene salary demands based on the $300 million that Iron Man 1 made.

Logan

i didn't even care when i heard he was replaced
he had about what, 15-20 minutes of screen time in iron man? or atleast some where around that

he definitely didn't deserve being paid more than Downey by any stretch of the imagination
he also doesn't have the acting talent to back up that salary
he's not a terrible actor, but he is no where near great

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by cembros

black people seam to bother you, iv seen you make similar comments before. Whats that about

You interpreted that as a having to do with black people bothering him

Quite often I've found that racist people make accusations of racism out of things that aren't, being offended on adds like the Sony PSP add with a black and a white woman wrestling when in fact the add had nothing to do with racism at all.

[GreenScar]

They did film more with Howard that ended up cut. Maybe that should have been his first warning.

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by jasonbird

They did film more with Howard that ended up cut. Maybe that should have been his first warning.

That's discrimination!! Call the ACLU

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by jasonbird

They did film more with Howard that ended up cut. Maybe that should have been his first warning.

he did star in a good bit of deleted scenes

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by cembros

black people seam to bother you, iv seen you make similar comments before. Whats that about

No black people don't bother me, people who ***** about not getting something because of their color bothers me. This isn't the 60's and that just doesn't cut it anymore. If you did not earn something you have no entitlement to it no matter how much you ***** and cry about it. I am just sick and tired of people looking for a handout. If you didn't earn it shut your ****ing mouth and put your hand down. Overall I have no problems with black people, I work just fine with them, and as you would have also seen in many of my posts there are many black actors I like too, I just don't like the ones who act better than they are and act like we owe them anything. But that has nothing to do with just being black, I don't like anybody who pulls the race card for no reason and has their hand out demanding what they didn't earn. If it makes you feel better I hate more white people than anybody else. So no worries your liberal views will be protected.

[cembros]

Originally Posted by Monkey

You interpreted that as a having to do with black people bothering him

Quite often I've found that racist people make accusations of racism out of things that aren't, being offended on adds like the Sony PSP add with a black and a white woman wrestling when in fact the add had nothing to do with racism at all.

no i dont interprete that as being racist at all, just seems to be an ongoing issue for him

[cembros]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

No black people don't bother me, people who ***** about not getting something because of their color bothers me. This isn't the 60's and that just doesn't cut it anymore. If you did not earn something you have no entitlement to it no matter how much you ***** and cry about it. I am just sick and tired of people looking for a handout. If you didn't earn it shut your ****ing mouth and put your hand down. Overall I have no problems with black people, I work just fine with them, and as you would have also seen in many of my posts there are many black actors I like too, I just don't like the ones who act better than they are and act like we owe them anything. But that has nothing to do with just being black, I don't like anybody who pulls the race card for no reason and has their hand out demanding what they didn't earn. If it makes you feel better I hate more white people than anybody else. So no worries your liberal views will be protected.

ha oh so im a liberal am i. You are extremly defensive when it comes to an issue with a black person, seems to me as though u have some issues yourself

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by cembros

ha oh so im a liberal am i.

Well....that's not exactly any kind of a rebuttal, you questioned me and I fully answered and that's your reply? FAIL!