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Old 11-28-2021, 01:56 AM   #401
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Steven, thanks for your thoughts. Just curious, is the original United Artists Transamerica Company logo on the 4K disc?
that's been confirmed prior, no MGM lion either
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Old 11-28-2021, 01:57 AM   #402
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The problem with bluray is not mainly the resolution but rather the compression in my opinion. Bluray can look really nice but it is clearly more "digital" and not looking like film according to me. I and a couple of friends did just watch Road warrior 4K UHD on my 130" screen and the image quality (=close to 35mm) was great. No bluray with upscaling can come close.
Problem is this disc’s compression isn’t good. Road Warrior on 4K does have a pretty darn good picture. This could have looked great because the restoration does seem, beneath those compression issues, like it was done well, but the codec kind of ruins it.
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Old 11-28-2021, 02:28 AM   #403
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Has anyone here listened to the commentary?
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Old 11-28-2021, 02:32 AM   #404
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When’s the last time you got laid?
"I don't know how to respond to your joke so I'm going to insult the frequency by which you have sex with women because having sex is the only unit of value I understand"

Where have I heard this one before? High school?
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Old 11-28-2021, 03:15 AM   #405
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"I don't know how to respond to your joke so I'm going to insult the frequency by which you have sex with women because having sex is the only unit of value I understand"

Where have I heard this one before? High school?
Maybe they were trying to hit on you?
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Old 11-28-2021, 03:18 AM   #406
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Kino's 4K UHD's are terrific. From The Silence of the Lambs to Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Kino's 4K UHD's are terrific except for The Silence of the Lambs and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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Old 11-28-2021, 04:25 AM   #407
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I got a friend to lend it to me and watching it in HDR10... I mean the picture is rampant with compression errors, especially with the chroma and the film grain. I can't believe some of you think it looks fine in HDR10. The errors show up in almost every single scene. If there is even a semblance of a solid color in a shot, the chances it has chroma errors is like 80% on this codec. The green splotches are almost everywhere (obviously, click on them to see them full size to see the compression errors):



On her lab coat, the cabinets in the back.


Almost anywhere here where there is a white object.


On his banjo and some of the white portions of the dog.


Here the street is littered with those green splotches.

CLICK ON SPOILER TO SEE THE REST:



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Other than the plants, there shouldn't be any green here, but there is (again the green splotches).


Top-right corner here.


Above her hair.


On the yellow wall here.


Above the plant and next to the bricks here.


On the newspaper clippings and basically anything that is supposed to be any shade of white.


On the newspapers.


On the newspapers.


On the newspapers.


On the collar of his coat.


On his coat and on the chef's clothing.


Anything white here (i.e. the cooks).


On the left wall.


Basically the whole bottom-left quadrant here.


Between the branches here.


On the truck and other light-colored areas.




The right side.


The right side again with the whiter areas.


Above her head here.


Basically this whole shot.





Those green splotches (the chroma errors) are everywhere. And these screenshots are only from the first 15 minutes. And as you can also see, the grain in some of those is rough. And it is not much different actually watching in motion. Interestingly, the chroma is a little masked in motion, but the grain looks worse in motion than it does on the screenshots. The grain freezes sometimes, then it suddenly changes a few frames later (almost like it forgot to it was supposed to be different in every frame), sometimes it's completely gone, other times it looks clumpy... I mean the whole thing almost looks like I compressed it on YouTube.

It is basically a complete disaster. If this was years ago when 4K/HDR was still a new thing at least there'd be a semblance of an excuse there. But we're well into it right now and we're still getting this crap. It's pretty unacceptable. And I'm amazed people are still trying to spend money on it and buy it.

I shudder to think how The Great Escape and Dressed to Kill will look after seeing this. Now I wish Criterion would have done these on 4K instead as they seem to be doing a much better job with the format compared to Kino now. Oh the irony.

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Wow, those shots are bad, bad, bad. Inexcusable, really. It's like Kino and Shout and Studio Canal are all in a contest to see who can put out the worst UHDs (Though with titles like T2 and Grease, there's some good competition even by the bigger studios). Thankfully Vinegar Syndrome isn't interested in that game. But really, there's no excuse for this. Since Amazon still hasn't shipped out my pre-order, I'm considering cancelling my order based on those shots. I don't need to see it in motion to know the whole movie is crawling with those errors.

It's a shame, too, because the new master look stunning, just like the situation with Shout's Halloween UHDs. Great masters, horrible encodes.
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Old 11-28-2021, 05:47 AM   #409
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Thanks for the caps samlop, but could you please put them behind a spoiler tag? 25 2160p images take up quite a bit of space.
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Old 11-28-2021, 06:47 AM   #411
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DV does significantly clean up the splotching fwiw. Base encode sucks though I hope it doesn't become a trend
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Wow, those shots are bad, bad, bad. Inexcusable, really. It's like Kino and Shout and Studio Canal are all in a contest to see who can put out the worst UHDs (Though with titles like T2 and Grease, there's some good competition even by the bigger studios). Thankfully Vinegar Syndrome isn't interested in that game. But really, there's no excuse for this. Since Amazon still hasn't shipped out my pre-order, I'm considering cancelling my order based on those shots. I don't need to see it in motion to know the whole movie is crawling with those errors.
T2 is StudioCanal, FYI. It was actually their first UHD released, and boy what an impression it left.
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Old 11-28-2021, 07:47 AM   #413
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It is!
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Old 11-28-2021, 08:12 AM   #414
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So has anyone else noticed fluctuating brightness issues in DV? Adjusting settings I can get it to be a little less obvious, but still noticeable. Particularly in the scene at the beginning when Elizabeth is watching Geoffrey throw the plant in the garbage truck. When the shots cut back and forth to him and Elizabeth watching from the window, the brightness shifts. It’s driving me nuts.

Watching on a Sony A80J and a Panny UB820.

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I had the same problem with Misery, thought it was a fault with the disc, got a replacement but the issue persisted, asked if anyone was having similar experience in the Misery thread, but got no response. With Misery it super noticeable when you skip chapters too. Watched on an LG Oled and player.

And The future for Kino 4k had looked so bright after Mad Max.
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Old 11-28-2021, 10:05 AM   #415
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That's my dilemma. I paid with a gift card (whenever I preorder something early, I buy a gift card to pay so that the funds are taken immediately - since they don't have Paypal as an option) and now that it appears they aren't going to have it in stock anytime soon, I'm screwed. I could cancel, but those funds would just go back on the gift card instead of my bank account, thus I can't use that money to buy it elsewhere.
Yeah that sucks even more.

I ordered it at DiabolikDVD now, along with some pre-order items.
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A question about the blu-ray (1080p) disc that comes with the 4K, is it the same as the SF release or the MGM one?
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A question about the blu-ray (1080p) disc that comes with the 4K, is it the same as the SF release or the MGM one?
It's new.

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It's new.
I hope it's better visually than the previous releases!
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Where have I heard this one before? High school?
You didn't answer the question!
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KLI: But the professional reviewers said there were no chroma errors, so they don’t exist!
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