Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by Vict

Is the bluray that comes with the 4k worthy? I noticed it has a near perfect score on here, is it better to own/watch until we get a great 4k?

Which film?

[Vict]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Which film?

the first movie, thanks for responding

[TravisTylerBlack]

Originally Posted by Vict

Is the bluray that comes with the 4k worthy? I noticed it has a near perfect score on here, is it better to own/watch until we get a great 4k?

Not sure which film your inquiry is directed towards, but the UHDs for each one are all upgrades at varying levels compared to their standard BD predecessors.

The original film has had some frustrating grain management/DNR applied for unknown reasons and its color timing is, as ever, controversial. Still, the 2011 blu was far worse in both departments.

The Lost World has a very healthy transfer, possibly from the OCN, though I personally have mixed feelings regarding its HDR grading.

JPIII is the ugliest of the bunch and appears to be an upscale of an old master.

Jurassic World is a beautiful 4K disc on all accounts. Dramatically deeper colors, gorgeous highlights and tight, filmic grain texture throughout.

JW: Fallen Kingdom looks great as well but I miss the grain. Also, just not as rewatchable or fun to me as the other entries in the franchise.

Does that help?

[Vict]

The 1st movie. Sorry I just realized this forum is for the whole trilogy/collection, I thought it was just for Jurassic Park 1993, also I think the 1st movie is only available from the collection right? thanks for your information. Correction: the bluray is available separately/individually too

[Vict]

Originally Posted by TravisTylerBlack

Not sure which film your inquiry is directed towards, but the UHDs for each one are all upgrades at varying levels compared to their standard BD predecessors.

The original film has had some frustrating grain management/DNR applied for unknown reasons and its color timing is, as ever, controversial. Still, the 2011 blu was far worse in both departments.

The Lost World has a very healthy transfer, possibly from the OCN, though I personally have mixed feelings regarding its HDR grading.

JPIII is the ugliest of the bunch and appears to be an upscale of an old master.

Jurassic World is a beautiful 4K disc on all accounts. Dramatically deeper colors, gorgeous highlights and tight, filmic grain texture throughout.

JW: Fallen Kingdom looks great as well but I miss the grain. Also, just not as rewatchable or fun to me as the other entries in the franchise.

Does that help?

Yes thanks for your help, so the bluray that comes with the 2018 4k is from 2011?

[TravisTylerBlack]

Originally Posted by Vict

Yes thanks for your help, so the bluray that comes with the 2018 4k is from 2011?

Yes. All standard blu-rays are the 2011 disc. Though if you’re 3D capable I highly recommend that version instead.

[1924]

just remembered that Dean Cundey is totally up for doing interviews for his films. Too bad nobody has managed to ask him what the correct look his for this film

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by Vict

the first movie, thanks for responding

Ah right.

The BD is a mess. Noisy, sharpened, cropped, too bright, incorrectly colour timed.

The UHD is problematic too but less so than the BD.

The noise is gone and is the sharpening (for the most part) and they corrected the brightness issues.

BUT it's still cropped, not colour timed correctly and there's a bit of DNR.

I've seen a 35mm print of the film and the 3D BD is actually the closest to it, but it has issues too (DNR, cropped, too warm).

In a nutshell, we've yet to have a good home video release.

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by 1924

just remembered that Dean Cundey is totally up for doing interviews for his films. Too bad nobody has managed to ask him what the correct look his for this film

It's a very warm film. Think the 3D BD but dialed back a bit.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by sonyfanboy

What’s an optical color grade? what is different about it compared to other forms of analog color grading?

Basically analog, the same thing.
It's done as an optical so it's a generation removed from the original negative.

The Matrix on DVD was an optical color grade. So it was somewhat muddy looking with a blanket green tint for the Matrix scenes. For the first Blu-ray they went back to the original negative and digitally color graded it. For JP III to look better they would need to do the same thing. Which means not only expense, but probably getting Joe Johnston in the mastering suite. I wish people here would realize this.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Basically analog, the same thing.
It's done as an optical so it's a generation removed from the original negative.

The Matrix on DVD was an optical color grade. So it was somewhat muddy looking with a blanket green tint for the Matrix scenes. For the first Blu-ray they went back to the original negative and digitally color graded it. For JP III to look better they would need to do the same thing. Which means not only expense, but probably getting Joe Johnston in the mastering suite. I wish people here would realize this.

Still confused by what you're talking about here. Before digital grading/finishing then films were only ever timed in "analogue", they used a Hazeltine to set the timing on an answer print, which was then applied to the interpositive as it was being run off the negative via contact printing and not as an 'optical', which is where the film is literally rephotographed onto another piece of film.

[Noremac Mij]

Unfortunately, neither JP nor The Matrix UHDs look like 35mm prints. In all honesty, I find it hard to understand why this color grading business permanently continues to get things wrong. Once contracted, a digital colorist should have access to as many original prints and examples as needed to match the new color grade to them. This should not be rocket science. The kind of work that continues to be put out, the studios should start demanding full refunds and these people need to be blacklisted so they don’t have future access to bastardize more artwork.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Unfortunately, neither JP nor The Matrix UHDs look like 35mm prints. In all honesty, I find it hard to understand why this color grading business permanently continues to get things wrong. Once contracted, a digital colorist should have access to as many original prints and examples as needed to match the new color grade to them. This should not be rocket science. The kind of work that continues to be put out, the studios should start demanding full refunds and these people need to be blacklisted so they don’t have future access to bastardize more artwork.

People would've stopped watching home video years ago if everything looked like 35mm prints with their insanely high gamma, dull colour and yellowy/brown skin tones. What works for a 14fL theatrical dark room environment doesn't work on consumer displays.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Still confused by what you're talking about here. Before digital grading/finishing then films were only ever timed in "analogue", they used a Hazeltine to set the timing on an answer print, which was then applied to the interpositive as it was being run off the negative via contact printing and not as an 'optical', which is where the film is literally rephotographed onto another piece of film.

Well in this case it was done after numerous CG effects were added throughout the movie. I don't know how else to describe it.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Well in this case it was done after numerous CG effects were added throughout the movie. I don't know how else to describe it.

Because they filmed out the CG to interneg, cut it into the camera negative and then photochemically timed it when printing, just as they would any other shot. Even Phantom Menace was timed like this for its theatrical release.

[Kinard717]

Just so I'm clear, the 1080p discs do NOT contain the new 4k transfers in this set?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Kinard717

Just so I'm clear, the 1080p discs do NOT contain the new 4k transfers in this set?

As far as I know, no.



And we have no confirmation that these are even new scans from the original source material given how poorly they look.

[Nitroboy]

Originally Posted by Kinard717

Just so I'm clear, the 1080p discs do NOT contain the new 4k transfers in this set?

No

[JackDawson]

No version of Jurassic Park has Dolby Vision, correct? I imported a copy, and it he back of the box says it does, but I couldn’t find anywhere else saying that.

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by JackDawson

No version of Jurassic Park has Dolby Vision, correct? I imported a copy, and it he back of the box says it does, but I couldn’t find anywhere else saying that.

They are all the same discs worldwide.