Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Have posted my position about movies here several times but since you are fairly new: Camera work - most movies that use handheld, shaky camera will get ejected. Changing aspect (Nolan and others) during a movie is dumb and many agree with me.

I did not notice Oppenheimer having any of that shaky cam technique that you so despise. I enjoyed the movie; you might want to consider at least renting it if you like historical biopics.

[Steedeel]

1 Barbie fluffy, infectious fun, should look great in 4K ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie (Not seen)
3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse mesmerising animation and good story⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 good ending to trilogy, heartfelt ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
5 Oppenheimer superb, character driven and looks stunning, great performances across the board⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
6 The Little Mermaid (Haven’t seen)
7 Avatar: The Way of Water breathtaking in places, pure popcorn ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania stale stuff, one and done ⭐️⭐️
9 John Wick: Chapter 4 stunning fight scene and cinematography (own 4K) ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
10 Sound of Freedom (not seen)
11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny meh, not a patch on original trilogy⭐️⭐️
12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One expertly done action sequences and the gang are as likeable as ever. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts meh⭐️⭐️
14 Creed III not as strong as the first two but enjoyed enough to own⭐️⭐️⭐️
15 Elemental (not seen)

[Vilya]

I'll play!

1 Barbie- plan to blind buy
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie- already own and I enjoyed it
3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse- already own, yet to see.
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3- already own, yet to see
5 Oppenheimer- will buy, saw at theater, enjoyed very much.
6 The Little Mermaid- plan to blind buy
7 Avatar: The Way of Water- already own because, well, 3D, yet to see
8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania- no interest
9 John Wick: Chapter 4- already own, yet to see
10 Sound of Freedom- no interest
11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny- unlikely to buy unless cheap
12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One- probably will buy
13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts- no interest
14 Creed III- no interest
15 Elemental- plan to blind buy

[Steedeel]

Not that anyone asked, but my favourite discs so far this year, bearing in mind I buy most in bulk so I’m behind many here. (Some titles from 2022)

1. Top Gun: Maverick 4K stunning cockpit scenes, took my breath away. Lovely bookend to the original and I actually prefer this sequel. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

2. Aftersun: heart breaking and I couldn’t take my eyes off it. Brilliant soundtrack also.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

3. Nightmare Alley: Modern noir from del toro with a superb cast, including Bradley Cooper, Toni Collette and Cate Blanchett. Beautifully shot and mysterious. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

4. Infinity Pool: Delicious nightmare fuel from Cronenberg junior, the brilliant Mia Goth stars. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

5. Pearl: the prequel to X and a showcase for Mia Goth, go is having her well deserved time in the limelight.

6. The Menu Thrilling black comedy/horror/thriller starring Ralph Fiennes. Twisted and thoroughly enjoyable ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

7. Sisu 4K. Mad Max meets Rambo with a sprinkling or Inglorious Bastards. Huge fun and brutal kills.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

8. John Wick 4 4K. John Wick doing what he does best, fighting enemies in increasingly impressive ways. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

9. Across The Spider-verse 4K: Mesmerising and much better Metaverse than anything Marvel have done in live action. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

10. All My Friends Hate Me. British thriller with a paranoid ‘old friends’ meet up that builds into a tense finale. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

This list will change when MI 7 and Oppenheimer get 4K launches.

[t-mel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Changing aspect (Nolan and others) during a movie is dumb and many agree with me. If you ever procure a scope screen (2.35 or 2.40) then you may or may not agree with us.
And the big question, why did you not do your own comments for each movie listed.

I don't really know about projectors but is there a way to restrict what is projected to scope? The film is still watchable without the IMAX scenes.

1 Barbie - saw in theatre, enjoyed but won't buy
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie - looks like nostalgia film aimed at very young children. Have no nostalgia for the games.
3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse -- saw in theatre, will buy when cheaper
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - Wasn't a fan of the first but will rent this.
5 Oppenheimer -- saw in theatre, will buy
6 The Little Mermaid -- zero interest
7 Avatar: The Way of Water -- saw in theatre, may buy for bonus features when price is reduced
8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania -- no interest
9 John Wick: Chapter 4 -- Didn't love the first but will rent this
10 Sound of Freedom -- Hard to say how much of people's response to the film is from the film itself and not everything surrounding it. May rent.
11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny -- little interest but may rent if available
12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One -- saw in theatre and will buy
13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts -- little interest, may rent
14 Creed III -- will rent
15 Elemental -- will rent

[cheez avenger]

1 Barbie - Not seen
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie - Not seen
3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - Loved it
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - Loved it
5 Oppenheimer - Loved it
6 The Little Mermaid - Not seen
7 Avatar: The Way of Water - Loved it
8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - Not seen
9 John Wick: Chapter 4 - Loved it
10 Sound of Freedom - Not seen
11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - Not seen
12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One - Loved it
13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts - Was just ok
14 Creed III - Not seen
15 Elemental - Not seen

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Ender14

But Alchav said disc is dying, so how can they be swamped with orders? It obviously just costs too much to manufacture the discs.

Originally Posted by Vilya

Those two words, alchav said, is as far as anyone needs to read 99% of the time...and I am being generous.

I never said "Discs are Dying," just that the Studios will cut back on 4K UHD. The Studios will look at the numbers and adjust their Disc Production. Again the Revenue Report shows DVD's and BD sell more at the best Profit Margin!

[Ender14]

1 Barbie: Have not seen.
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie: Not for me but well done. My son loved it.
3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse: Near masterpiece
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3: Rocket shines. Great trilogy ender.
5 Oppenheimer: Masterpiece! Favorite movie of the year thus far.
6 The Little Mermaid: Have not seen.
7 Avatar: The Way of Water: Exciting and entertaining. Worthy sequel.
8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: Ouch! Big failure.
9 John Wick: Chapter 4: The pinnacle of action filmmaking though could be trimmed.
10 Sound of Freedom: Have not seen.
11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny: Better than Crystal Skull. That's about it.
12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning: Slightly disappointed but only because the bar was so high. Still thrilling and Hayley Atwell steals the movie.
13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts: A step back from Bumblebee but better than most Bay entries.
14 Creed III: Have not seen.
15 Elemental: Have not seen.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I never said "Discs are Dying," just that the Studios will cut back on 4K UHD. The Studios will look at the numbers and adjust their Disc Production. Again the Revenue Report shows DVD's and BD sell more at the best Profit Margin!

I don't have the time or energy to look back through his posts to refute this. But we ALL know he said it.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I never said "Discs are Dying," just that the Studios will cut back on 4K UHD. The Studios will look at the numbers and adjust their Disc Production. Again the Revenue Report shows DVD's and BD sell more at the best Profit Margin!

You did not specifically say that "discs are dying" this time, but you most certainly have said it countless times before and you know it. You live for the day when you can say that in the past tense because you so very much want to gloat about it.

The Media Play News Revenue Report that you keep referencing never says one damn thing about profit margins.

It only shows the average price that consumers paid for DVDs and Blu-rays and with blu-rays all three types, regular blu-ray, 3D blu-ray, and Ultra HD blu-ray are all lumped together. Media Play News does not offer average consumer price paid information for each individual type of blu-ray and they never have.

Media Play News shows how much revenue DVDs and Blu-rays (all three types combined) generated in a given week. Again, nothing is EVER said about profit margins. Revenue is not even remotely the same thing as profit.

The Media Play News weekly report does show the format market share of three disc formats (DVD, Blu-ray, and UHD) for any given week, but again nothing is said about profit margins for any of them.

You are seeing what you want to see and not what is actually being reported as you always do.

[bhampton]

1 Barbie- Enjoyed it in theaters, pre-ordered UHD

2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie- Blind bought UHD, love Nintendo, Liked the movie

3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse- Loved in theaters,Essential UHD purchased day 1. (Tried to find early)

4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3- Purchased UHD, enjoyed

5 Oppenheimer- not sure I'm interested, may purchase

6 The Little Mermaid- not interesed.

7 Avatar: The Way of Water- bought on UHD, movie kind of sucks but I'm not disappointed somehow. The first was bad too but both can be enjoyed for what they are if you are in the mood.

8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania- Purchased UHD, enjoyed it.

9 John Wick: Chapter 4- Purchased UHD, like more than I expected. The bullet proof suits were comedy gold.

10 Sound of Freedom- no interest.

11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny- undecided.

12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One- will blind buy

13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts- Used or on sale will buy

14 Creed III- no interest. I would consider Creed I .. maybe ... someday

15 Elemental- plan to blind buy

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I did not notice Oppenheimer having any of that shaky cam technique that you so despise. I enjoyed the movie; you might want to consider at least renting it if you like historical biopics.

IIRC have The American Experience and/or Nova where Oppenheimer was a large part of the story. If GameFly adds to their disc library then I will add it to my queue.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Enjoyed the responses from everyone on the 15 movies. Thanks for taking the time to post!!!!

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Site is real slow for me today.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Site is real slow for me today.

Same here. It's like reliving 1998's internet all over again.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Not that anyone asked, but my favourite discs so far this year, bearing in mind I buy most in bulk so I’m behind many here. (Some titles from 2022)

Have:

1. Top Gun: Maverick 4K*
3. Nightmare Alley
8. John Wick 4 4K

* IIRC mostly shot with a Sony CineAlta Venice camera. The head (lens/pickup) can be removed from the body.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Have:

1. Top Gun: Maverick 4K*
3. Nightmare Alley
8. John Wick 4 4K

* IIRC mostly shot with a Sony CineAlta Venice camera. The head (lens/pickup) can be removed from the body.

It looked beautiful, didn’t it? Had a smile on my face the entire time.

[alchav21]

My Digital Collection is on Vudu, but also can watch on Amazon Prime and MA. When I buy it's 4k UHD Digital.

1 Barbie ● Have not watched
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie ● Watch few Animated will pass on this one
3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse ● Animated will pass
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 ● Have all three watched and liked it
5 Oppenheimer ● Want to add it to my Collection will watch
6 The Little Mermaid ● Not viewed, will pass
7 Avatar: The Way of Water ● Have both watched and really liked it
8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania ● Have two will wait for sale
9 John Wick: Chapter 4 ● Have all 4 in Collection really like haven't watched
10 Sound of Freedom ● Not for me
11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny ● Like Indy will buy on sale
12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One ● Like these Movies sale
13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts ● Have some of them may buy this one
14 Creed III ● Have I & II, wait for sale
15 Elemental ● Animated will pass

[cheez avenger]

Just watched the 4K disc of Batman: Mask of the Phantasm and it was great. The 4K disc is in HDR10 but if you redeem the 4K digital copy via Movies Anywhere it will have Dolby Vision.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Movies of 2023. Below is our purchase attitude for the top 15. Only about 5 purchases out of the top 200

[Show spoiler]1 Barbie ● Have not watched
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie ● Animated will pass, have the live action version Blu-ray
3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse ● Animated will pass
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 ● Will purchase if on a good sale
5 Oppenheimer ● Not viewed, will pass
6 The Little Mermaid ● Not viewed, will pass
7 Avatar: The Way of Water ● Eye candy, boring, was glad when it was over
8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania ● Maybe if on a good sale
9 John Wick: Chapter 4 ● Own
10 Sound of Freedom ● Not our type movie
11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny ● Not on disc yet
12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One ● Not on disc yet
13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts ● Not viewed, will pass
14 Creed III ● Not our type movie
15 Elemental ● Animated will pass

I frequently buy TV shows at launch but I'm never in a rush to buy mainstream movies. My list therefore is very boring at the moment:

1 Barbie ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
5 Oppenheimer ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
6 The Little Mermaid ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
7 Avatar: The Way of Water ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
9 John Wick: Chapter 4 ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
10 Sound of Freedom ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
14 Creed III ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale
15 Elemental ● Will buy the 4K Blu-ray when there's a good sale

[veritas]

Streaming really does cost studios a fortune. Before it would be hard to wait till something’s a good price now it’s skip theaters stream it and buy it dirt cheap. The main things I collect these days are anime and a few Warner archive titles. I used to buy alot of disney but Disney plus kind of killed any urgency.



Barbie - rent it from the library
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie - Black Friday buy
3 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - Black Friday buy
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - Black Friday buy
5 Oppenheimer- buy for my dad
6 The Little Mermaid- stream it maybe
7 Avatar: The Way of Water- streamed it
8 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania- Black Friday buy
9 John Wick: Chapter 4- Black Friday buy
10 Sound of Freedom - no interest
11 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - stream it
12 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One - no interest
13 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts - buy it cheap since I have the others
14 Creed III- no interest
15 Elemental- Black Friday buy