Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

American Airlines



https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...nnectivity.jsp

cool, but they don't bother to say the actual cost and there is a key word ( you always miss key facts)


"Wi-Fi is available on almost all routes" how convenient is streaming when it is not available on your route?

either way I can watch a film using my physical media on my laptop for free

10,000 movies at your fingertip. If that doesn't define convenient what does?

well if i am at my sisters cottage where there is no wi-fi or cell there is 0 streaming movies, if i am atr my friends cottage where there is no wi-fi and limited cell service (with a data cap on my cell) there is nothing at my finger typo.

When I am at home I don't think it is 10k films I have but it is way more than half that and it is all content that I bought that I am interested in. Can you tell me which subscription service has 10k films i would be interested to watch?

What streaming services do you subscribe to if any?

technically amazon prime but not for the streaming. There is never anything I would rather watch on it than something I would rather watch in my collection.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

He loves statistics and a thread comparing formats is a logical place to post statistics (and use those statistics to argue).

That would be my guess anyway.

no he likes making ridiculous points and then finding useless statistics he miss interprets to make his point.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Nah - you just refuse to accept the results because it's something you personally don't do.

no we accept the results. The point is they are meaningless.

A bit under a month ago I was at my middle sisters and she told me there was something wrong with her washer (wire and rubber that seals the door came off that day). I had my phone on me pulled up the YouTube video and fixed it for her, does that mean I want to watch a three hour film on my phone? there is no chance that will ever happen.

On the other hand why didn't you post the stats of what people used for physical media. My guess 0% would be smartphone

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

We have to take the results at face value. Trying to shoot them down because they don't fit your argument is nothing more than a Strawman Argument.

It is not about fitting anyone's argument but that it is meaningless.

Phone and tablet are relatively clean categories. But console is 26% and TV is 61% can you tell me if all the 26% clicked on TV as well (since I am sure they are watching it ion a TV)? how about streaming devices, they had 34% and even laptop at 43% and desktop at 25% can have been used with a TV (I know I have).

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

They asked 8,858 people "Which devices do you use to watch digital video content."

Multiple choice accepted.

So more responded they use their smart phone (68%) then they used their tablet (36%) and more than their Smart TV (61%)

Everyone does not have all the devices listed above. It would never add up to 100%.

The raw data would be more interesting probably or less depending on how you look at it. I assume smart tv, streaming device and gaming console all have rather low correlations with each other while all performing the same task which means tv streaming is probably near 100%. It makes sense iPhones and tablets have pretty high percentages also as they aren’t split like iPhone vs android and tablet vs iPad etc.


They wanted the data to look more interesting but what they probably got is nearly everyone uses a tv and a lot use iPads or laptops to fulfill the same purpose and a fair number use smartphones along with other things because it’s the most portable option you always have on you.


Look at the raw data and I assume you just have bad misleading statistics. Which is an easy thing to do with statistics.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

He's not shooting them down because they don't fit his argument.

Honestly I am surprised smartphone only garnered 68%


do 31% not have a smart phone? did they never even see an animated GIF/animated emoticon (not to mention, video call, tik tok, youtube, facebook... or even surf the web like this site that has video ads or videos in posts)

[Anthony P]

did anyone else laughgh when they saw

Console (eg PS4, Xbox) are these stats for 2013 (when the PS4 came out) or 2003 (when the original xbox was around)

[bhampton]

Now I did.

I find the 1% who didn't know interesting.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Anyyyyyyway, purchased Babylon in 4K today, just waiting for pre orders of Del Toro’s Pinocchio and Duel and that should be me just about done with my 4K list for this year UNLESS The Abyss gets a shock announcement before Christmas.

Very happy with my haul.

Babylon was awesome and the 4K disc is outstanding.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Now I did.

I find the 1% who didn't know interesting.

Age group ended at 64 so they may not know what kind of equipment they have. All they know it turn it on, press a few buttons and watch.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Babylon was awesome and the 4K disc is outstanding.

Thanks, looking forward to watching it sometime next year. (I have a considerable backlog!)

[Wendell R. Breland]

Just looked at all the “Upcoming Blu-ray Releases” and no Abyss or True Lies listed.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Most Used Device

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

That title doesn't fit the question the survey asked:

The survey asked: "Which devices do you use to watch digital video content?"

In order to fit the title it should have asked: "Which device do you use most to watch video content?" and it shouldn't have allowed people to pick multiple choices.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

That title doesn't fit the question the survey asked:

The survey asked: "Which devices do you use to watch digital video content?"

In order to fit the title it should have asked: "Which device do you use most to watch video content?" and it shouldn't have allowed people to pick multiple choices.

https://www.statista.com/forecasts/9...deos-in-the-us

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

https://www.statista.com/forecasts/9...deos-in-the-us

What are you trying to prove by posting the same survey again?

It's a meaningless survey with a poor title. That won't change no matter how many times you post it.

[alchav21]

If 60% of people use their UHD TV Apps for Streaming they will have to have a TV with a Fast Processor for Solid PQ and SQ. I have a Sony with the X1 Processor in my HT with Outstanding Picture and Sound Quality, and a TCL in my Computer room with poor Streaming because it has a weak Processor! Both the Sony and the TCL use Android Google Apps.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by alchav21

If 60% of people use their UHD TV Apps for Streaming they will have to have a TV with a Fast Processor for Solid PQ and SQ. I have a Sony with the X1 Processor in my HT with Outstanding Picture and Sound Quality, and a TCL in my Computer room with poor Streaming because it has a weak Processor!

Alchav,

I believe you may have reached a new level of confusion.

There's the signal and then there's noise. Fidelity attempts to reproduce the original signal and typically processing of the signal is minimized. Fidelity has almost nothing to do with online movie streaming though so don't worry about it.

Sony and TCL both make great TVs and the X1 is a compelling processor. You don't "have to" have a great processor in your TV for streaming though. It's compromised signal to begin with and it's best viewed as is to the extent possible.

Sony's marketing says "Everything you watch is enhanced to present content faithfully, as the creators intended." but in fact it's one or the other. It's either enhanced or as the creators intended. Mastered AV is complete with all the information the signal needs. It is most faithfully reproduced when post processing is minimized.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by alchav21

If 60% of people use their UHD TV Apps for Streaming they will have to have a TV with a Fast Processor for Solid PQ and SQ. I have a Sony with the X1 Processor in my HT with Outstanding Picture and Sound Quality, and a TCL in my Computer room with poor Streaming because it has a weak Processor!

I don't think it has so much to do with the processor as the TV's OS and app support. My Vizio from 2020 has an amazing image but the OS interface and apps are extremely slow and buggy, to the point of not being worth the trouble to try and use them. So I have my Nvidia Shield Pro connected to that TV.

My other 4K TV is an LG from 2016. It still receives OS and app updates and runs much smoother than my Vizio. I rarely have problems with it. Bu the interface is clunky so I use my 4K Fire Stick Max on that TV.

And of course both have UHD players connected to them for when I want to watch something with great quality.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Just looked at all the “Upcoming Blu-ray Releases” and no Abyss or True Lies listed.

I’m actually fed up of this now. They need to keep their mouths shut until everything is 100% ready.

[bhampton]

Well, there are a lot of new releases on the way so that's good.