Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[t-mel]

Funny story... https://futurism.com/the-byte/users-...hares-watching

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by t-mel

Funny story... https://futurism.com/the-byte/users-...hares-watching

That is hilarious. I'm glad I can't remember when the last time I used Plex was.

I opened Netflix and someone else who had visted was logged in and I had no idea what they were watching was an option. I guess you don't know about some of the stuff unless you search for that type of stuff.


I have had some things to say about streaming particularly in regards to quality but ... I found a silver lining! Last night I hosted "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead" and my neighbor was certain she could borrow the disc to show her friends. I think she said something like "I'm going to need to take that disc to show Jim" I was happy to tell her it's free (with ads) on Vudu. Easy for everyone.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

That is hilarious. I'm glad I can't remember when the last time I used Plex was.

I opened Netflix and someone else who had visted was logged in and I had no idea what they were watching was an option. I guess you don't know about some of the stuff unless you search for that type of stuff.


I have had some things to say about streaming particularly in regards to quality but ... I found a silver lining! Last night I hosted "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead" and my neighbor was certain she could borrow the disc to show her friends. I think she said something like "I'm going to need to take that disc to show Jim" I was happy to tell her it's free (with ads) on Vudu. Easy for everyone.

I would have just told her straight I don’t loan discs out.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by veritas

Im always kind of curious how many movies alchavy actually leases.

Here is a little taste of my recent Digital Haul in My Collection!

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I have over 1000 Movies and TV Shows in My Collection. All these are UHD 4K with Dolby ATMOS and Vision. Nothing in My Collection has been lost, and I started it a Decade Ago!

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Nothing in My Collection has been lost

......yet.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

......yet.

And when the time comes....

Nothing of value is lost.

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by t-mel

Funny story... https://futurism.com/the-byte/users-...hares-watching

I've just this week asked my son to start setting up a PLEX server with one of the NVIDIA SHIELDS I have lying around collecting dust. If he sees a story like this, I'm going to get another privacy lecture from him...LOL..

My daughter came to me last week demanding that we cancel our NETFLIX account in protest of them cancelling one of her shows. That prompted me to figure out the potential pitfalls for our family. In the past, anytime I've cancelled something, I discover just how invaluable such a thing is to some member of the family - usually my daughter...

Nobody in our household uses it for movies. I watch documentaries on my phone at work and stand up comedy specials when I'm on a machine at the gym. My inlaws use my account between their homes here and in Florida...so far, I've never been asked to stump up for this extra use but have always figured I'd pay it when they eventually came around to implementing whatever add on they're working on..I have no idea what their usage is as I've never clicked on the user id that I setup for them under my account.

Anyhoo..I figured that I'd simply start a PLEX server and give everyone accces to my movie library and maybe start purchasing TV titles to supplement what I'm losing with NETFLIX - although something in me just feels wrong about "buying" TV fare... I bought a couple of 14TB drives over BF and gave them to my son to start figuring out how we'll use PLEX.

As an IT guy, he hates that I have our HT all setup to use voice commands with GOOGLE/HARMONY integration. He won't let me do the same for any other part of the house as he views it as a privacy issue...He will have a field day with this article...

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by crutzulee

Something in me just feels wrong about "buying" TV fare...

Horrible attitude. This is why so few TV shows are released on physical media and why so many of them have become completely unavailable or will be completely unavailable in the future.

[kfbkfb]

Streamed content magically converted to physical media:

I signed up for (ad) Hulu during the $0.99 special - I time shift content from Hulu (and max) with my 25 year old VHS Hi-Fi VCR and an HDMI -> AV converter.

At SP speed, these VHS recordings, when viewed with on my 32" HDTV look OK.

Due to the letterboxed 16:9 in a 4:3 image displayed on a 16:9 HDTV, the softness of the VHS picture isn't much of a distraction and the surround sound survives this process (I may start a library of VHS tapes of content recorded from Hulu and max [hey - VHS is physical media too!].


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[bhampton]

Originally Posted by kfbkfb

At SP speed, these VHS recordings, when viewed with on my 32" HDTV look OK.

Not my way, but -> you cant go wrong if it works for you!

My step dad does something similar with a DVR. He records (American) football games to watch without commercials. I tend to watch the highlights the following day because it's free and it's ready when I am and it's a few minutes instead of 4 hours and it's all good plays.

He used to have a notebook and all the VHS were numbered.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

Absolutely. There's no way in hell that streaming can ever catch up to discs. If you sent a 100GB movie over the internet, even if you were the only one on earth online, just streaming that movie would probably crash the entire world, because no system that exists now or ever will exists could handle something that massive.

No. let me put it this way Kaleidescape offers more than 100GB dl that can be DL (assume the customer has good enough BW) in a small fraction of the time iit takes to play the film. Once DL to your home server you can stream it to any player in your home over your internal network. It is not one person streaming a 100GB file that is the issue (that is the equivalent of 10 people streaming 10GB files) but that streaming needs to work with tens and hundreds of millions of people streaming at the same time.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by cgpublic

It's not only relevant, it's all that really matters, even more so as we adopt newer codecs.

What most consumers really desire above all things is a consistent, trouble-free streaming experience. No stuttering and no pixelation. 4K, spatial audio, abundant detail, WCG, HDR?

That's the icing on the cake.

"Most consumers" are just looking for an a excuse to sit on the couch while checking their phone. That is whey they are OK with FAST and AVOD, an ad is just as good at passing that time on the couch as the content they are pretending to be watching.

As for the icing on the cake. I am the one paying for the cake and the one eating the cake, why should I care what you believe "Most consumers" want? If they want the cake from the budget bakery that decided to compress the budget by buying salt instead of sugar, "Most consumers" can buy that cheap crappy cake, and I can buy my good proper cake with lots of quality icing.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I'm not talking about the Future or most people, I'm talking about the Quality I get from Streaming on my Sony UHD TV now. My ISP gives me 100/100Mbps Symmetrical, and that is plenty for Rock Solid Streaming. You guys are the ones that talk about Blurry and Buffering, I don't get any of that from all of my Streaming Providers NOW! So who has the Problem!

1) yes your 100Mbps is way more than enough for the best streaming any streaming provider that I know of can offer. the reality half of that is way more than enough and so is one third (but it is possible that in a house more than one person will stream at the time)

2) he never said buffering, you and cgpublic seem to be the only two that are focused on playback issue

3) he said his wife called Netflix blurry. Because streaming is a lot more compressed a lot more detail that should be there is sacrificed. I would not use blurry to explain it, but the term does make sense for what is happening

4) If you were to stream a UHD BD quality film from a streaming provider you would need a lot more then your 100/100Mbps internet connection and that is just for one person streaming at your place.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Apple wants to use Vision Pro’s array of cameras and sensors to detect when a user might have “depression, anxiety, stress or post-traumatic stress disorder.”

don't blame them I get all that when streaming (my post is meant a s a joke)

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Behind the spoilers is my latest news:

thanks for the heads up and really hope for the best outcome for you

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by t-mel

Funny story...

Some times I have to wonder what goes through some of these peoples minds.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by crutzulee

I've just this week asked my son to start setting up a PLEX server with one of the NVIDIA SHIELDS I have lying around collecting dust. If he sees a story like this, I'm going to get another privacy lecture from him...LOL..

he sounds smart

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I have over 1000 Movies and TV Shows in My Collection. All these are UHD 4K with Dolby ATMOS and Vision. Nothing in My Collection has been lost, and I started it a Decade Ago!

Why would you make a point of this when you can not display DV and not hear in Atmos?

Hate to be the barrier of bad news but some like Disney+ and Max will only do 1080 on your TV because they do not do 4K-SDR. See below a chart a AVS member created. The Nvidia Shield and your TV are Android with Google TV. On Shield Pro I have Refresh Rate app installed so I do get frame rate matching.

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[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Horrible attitude. This is why so few TV shows are released on physical media and why so many of them have become completely unavailable or will be completely unavailable in the future.

While I'm starting to come around to the idea that some non theatrical "movies" have value... I'll never feel that way about sit coms, soap operas and made for TV dramas...To me, they are all transitory,disposable fast food...I have no need to own any of it... I've seen every episode of ALL IN THE FAMILY, MASH, SEINFELD etc..We watch stuff like this as a family on a cheapie non HDR 4K 65" in the living room... most of it comes on the top tier package I get from my cable/ internet provider that I maintain so that I can watch sports and the various news channels...

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

he sounds smart

Both my kids are smarter than I'll ever be..lol...