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Old 02-11-2024, 09:49 PM   #45681
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Are you guys going to watch the Super Bowl or a Movie? I lived in the Bay Area from 1972 till 2000. So I followed the 49ers during the Joe Montana, Jerry Rice Hey Days....Go 49ers!!!
I can't spend 4+ hours watching a football game, but seeing as I used to live in SoCal I will throw my support to the 49ers.

I will probably resume playing Baldur's Gate 3, which is my current video game addiction, if I don't overdose on chocolate first that is.
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Are you guys going to watch the Super Bowl or a Movie? I lived in the Bay Area from 1972 till 2000. So I followed the 49ers during the Joe Montana, Jerry Rice Hey Days....Go 49ers!!!
My heart says 49ers but my wallet says Chiefs 27-20.
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Old 02-11-2024, 11:44 PM   #45683
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https://www.wired.com/story/funimati...oll-disappear/
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How long is "forever"? When it comes to digital media, forever could be as close as a couple of months away.


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Old 02-12-2024, 09:58 AM   #45685
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Can bad content be put on physical media? absolutely.
Can a studio decide to push compression to 11 to add more content on physical media? absolutely
Can a studio make bad decisions on "restoration"? absolutely


those are all "bad" decisions by the powers that be, but all else being equal (i.e. same studio master is used by the studio) the limits of both technologies are not the same which much more often than not means watching it on UHD BD will look better then UHD streaming..
Also, if you buy a disc that is good, that can't be changed. So many "upgrades" have been worse. Anyone who owns Aliens digitally will soon be stuck with a likely downgrade while those with the Blu Ray can decide for themselves.
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Old 02-12-2024, 11:31 AM   #45686
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How long is "forever"? When it comes to digital media, forever could be as close as a couple of months away.


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No one will believe they can lose online content until they do.

And a few won't believe it even after it happens.

Gamers have faced this situation already several times over. One day you buy a game, another day they turn off most or all of it's functionality.
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Odds defied; I made it to another . with me!
Happy Birthday Vilya! I hope you had an amazing birthday.
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Are you guys going to watch the Super Bowl or a Movie? I lived in the Bay Area from 1972 till 2000. So I followed the 49ers during the Joe Montana, Jerry Rice Hey Days....Go 49ers!!!
Not a sports fan here so did not watch. But the movie trailers were great! Except Twisters. Woof, that looks like a straight to video remake of the first one. Shocked at how bad it looked.
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Old 02-12-2024, 08:19 PM   #45689
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It was a great game, but the Chiefs Won!
We had Carnita Tacos, Guacamole and Chips, with Dos Equis!
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:35 PM   #45690
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Amazon Prime Video: They have started inserting ads into Prime Video content. It appears they have removed DV and Atmos as well. Now you have to pay extra to have no ads, DV and Atmos. Appears Bezos being worth 200 billion is not enough and wants to milk us for more.
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:24 PM   #45691
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Amazon Prime Video: They have started inserting ads into Prime Video content. It appears they have removed DV and Atmos as well. Now you have to pay extra to have no ads, DV and Atmos. Appears Bezos being worth 200 billion is not enough and wants to milk us for more.
That’s a cheap trick, in my opinion.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they remove the 4K altogether and charge extra for that next. Or remove the DV and Atmos from the premier tier and charge even more for that.

A perfect example of Amazon locking customers in and then taking away features that were standard. It really stinks imo. It needs to be stopped.

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I am paying the $2.99 (ad-free) to keep the 4K/DV/Atmos via PRIME.
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:32 PM   #45693
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Things are looking bad for Redbox:

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Redbox is on the brink of going out of business. Recent developments:
They have cash flow issues, and so have only been able to add 2 new major titles since Q2 2023: Barbie and Sound of Freedom.
Universal has sued Redbox for $17 million in owed licensing fees, claiming that
  1. Redbox has not paid them since summer 2022
  2. Redbox is being sued by content creators who were not paid after the acquisition of distributor 1091 Pictures. They're also being sued by the investment bank that helped advise Redbox's acquisition in 2022 for unpaid fees.
  3. Redbox removed their loyalty points system a couple months ago
  4. Redbox has discontinued telephone and live chat support
  5. Redbox has removed many box locations in lower performing areas or locations that presumably are more expensive to rent (Walmart?)
  6. Redbox employees have not added movies or serviced any machines for the past 7 weeks.
Redbox's parent company, Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment (yes, the inspirational book series), painted a dire picture in their most recent SEC filling. Basically, they bought Redbox in summer 2022, saddled with $360 million in debt, based on the bet that rental levels would return to pre-pandemic levels as theatrical releases returned to normal. However, it was unable to obtain a secured working capital loan of $40 million when its primary lender denied approval. Without the working capital, it was unable to obtain new content, which caused a cash crunch (impaired rental revenue), causing it to default on loans and contracts. "Due to the on-going impact of the above factors on our current and future results of operations, cash flows and financial condition, there is substantial doubt as to the ability of the Company to continue as a going concern."

CSSE also owns Crackle, having acquired it from Sony Pictures.
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I despise Amazon as a company so it is satisfying to see it be run into the group. Maybe people will stop using it...

Still, the damage has been done.
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Stream less.
Own movies.

All the ways streaming is getting worse you can tell it's just the beginning. They really think people like to be abused or something. And, ... I guess some people just go along with it.

I brought 28 movies to my neighbor's super bowl party to give away (it was things I upgraded from Blu Ray to UHD) no one wanted any of them. The one guy who was interested only had a DVD player.

Thankfully, I'm at an age where I can ignore what is trendy.

I will do it my way.
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Old 02-13-2024, 11:22 PM   #45696
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Here is an Article in Sound&Vision talking about the Shinny Disc in 2024...Best Buy no longer in the Disc Market!

https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...er-last-hurrah
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Wal-Mart has taken over the steelbook releases that would have been at Best Buy.
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Stream less.
Own movies.

All the ways streaming is getting worse you can tell it's just the beginning. They really think people like to be abused or something. And, ... I guess some people just go along with it.

I brought 28 movies to my neighbor's super bowl party to give away (it was things I upgraded from Blu Ray to UHD) no one wanted any of them. The one guy who was interested only had a DVD player.

Thankfully, I'm at an age where I can ignore what is trendy.

I will do it my way.
Maybe they all have the 4ks?
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We face a future where we may not be able to own a film we absolutely love, or even watch it twice over time for that matter. That is depressing to me.

But those days are nowhere near yet. Even if the worst happens, boutique labels will release some blockbusters.

That article is click bait scare mongering in my opinion. Must be a quiet Newsweek.

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https://www.thewrap.com/netflix-film...r-replacement/


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Scott Stuber’s announcement in January that he was leaving the top film job at Netflix after seven years at the streamer has set off a parlor game of guessing who might replace him.

But the better question might be: who would want to?

Stuber’s exit after a year as film chairman coincides with Netflix doubling down on its core focus – which isn’t the film business. In recent months, Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos has swatted down questions about theatrical releases and emphasized that the studio is a streaming service, first and foremost.

So how exciting is a job leading the movie division, now reporting to Bela Bajaria, the company’s chief content officer?

“It won’t be a job somebody wants, but it will be a job that somebody needs,” a leading film executive said on background.

“They’re in the TV movie business,” said the executive, pointing to Netflix’s stated desire to scale back on theatrical and prestige pictures in favor of smaller-budgeted movies that can populate the service in between viewers watching licensed content like “Suits” and “Gilmore Girls.”

That opinion was echoed by a talent agent who spoke with TheWrap, saying, “I don’t know how much Netflix needs another Stuber-level name since they will not be making huge tentpole movies anymore. Budget-wise, they will be comparatively modest.”

Netflix did not respond to request for comment.

Stuber marked a bridge between Old Hollywood and new. He started his career at Universal as a publicity assistant for Lew Wasserman and eventually became co-president of production for the studio in 2004. He transitioned to a producer deal at Universal until 2013 making films like “Ted” and “Role Models.”

The well-liked executive sought to make Netflix a credible filmmaking hub by hiring respected creatives like Rian Johnson, David Fincher and Jane Campion. And as one of the faces of the recent $70 million renovation of the Egyptian Theatre in Los Angeles, he was bringing Netflix films to theaters.

To replace him, names like Walt Disney Pictures president Sean Bailey, former Paramount Motion Picture president Emma Watts and former Warner Bros. chairman Toby Emmerich are being bandied about.

But as several industry insiders told TheWrap, it’s not the same job anymore.

“I don’t think they need an executive there who is based in movies and based in a system designed to try and make movies for theaters,” the film executive said. “I just don’t think you need somebody who is steeped in studio aspirations, or studio economics, or studio thinking, or wanting to make the level of movies that studios made because I don’t think they’re interested in that.”

This in spite of the company committing to spending $17 billion on content this year, between both film and television, and growing to nearly 261 million global paying subscribers in the last quarter, about 5 million more than analysts expected. And the streamer only has a reported 2–3% churn on subs leaving the service each month.

That being said, Netflix’s success in getting audiences to watch their licensed content alongside their original offerings means the next film chairman doesn’t need to heavily prioritize filmic output. The company dropped its “Next on Netflix 2024” video that contained nothing but original films.

All of Netflix’s 2024 titles were greenlit under Stuber, so it’s safe to assume newer titles won’t be in the same vein. As previously reported by TheWrap, Zach Snyder’s two-part “Rebel Moon” had a budget of $230 million; the Ryan Gosling/Chris Evans thriller “The Gray Man” cost $200 million; Michael Bay’s critically maligned “6 Underground” was made for $150 million; Martin Scorsese’s “The Irishman” had a budget of $150 million; and the Ryan Reynolds/Gal Gadot/Dwayne Johnson heist thriller “Red Notice” was made for $200 million.

A lack of eyeballs

According to a film producer who has worked with the studio, Netflix is correct to move away from making big-budget misses like “The Gray Man” and “Rebel Moon.”

“They cannot compete with the buzz and perceived value of theatrical in audience minds,” the producer said. “Their bread and butter should be mid-range movies supplemented by acquisitions.”

The individuals TheWrap spoke with agreed that despite prestige-heavy directors and ambitious film concepts, Netflix’s film strategy is simply not yielding eyeballs. The streamer’s most-watched original of 2023 was the Jennifer Lopez-fronted thriller “The Mother,” made for an estimated $43 million. It’s what many presume Netflix will aim to make once they find Stuber’s replacement.

“That is the quintessential Netflix movie at this point,” the film executive said. “It’s a total throwback to ’90s Ashley Judd movies.”

“Red Notice” remains the streamer’s most-watched original movie of all time with 230.9 million views, but the two planned sequels to the 2021 release have failed to materialize. “Rebel Moon,” positioned as a sci-fi blockbuster meant to be a “Star Wars”-esque property for the streamer, amassed 23.9 million viewers in its opening week, which fell short of the opening numbers for the less expensive “Leave the World Behind” (41.7 million views) and the Adam Sandler animated film “Leo” (34.6 million viewers).

“Given this trajectory, they do not need a former major studio head to run their division,” the producer said, adding that Netflix should instead look to transform its film division into a specialized arm like ScreenGems, Searchlight or Focus Features. “Otherwise, they will continue wasting more money.”

Whoever replaces Stuber will also have to decide what the future holds for the studio’s relationship with high-price talent like Fincher, Scorsese and Bradley Cooper. “Netflix will give people a lot of money, but when they make movies now, they give you a list of 10 people. And if you don’t get one of those people, you don’t get to make your movie,” the producer continued. “It’s very formula-driven by their analytics and by the algorithms.”

Additionally, while Fincher got the opportunity to make “The Killer” without any studio interference, most directors likely won’t get that level of freedom.

“They get a lot of glory for making something like ‘Mank’ or being in business with David Fincher, but none of those are what a Netflix consumer is coming to the site [for],” the film executive said. Fincher’s “The Killer” grossed $421,332 internationally, according to BoxOfficeMojo, and was in the Netflix Top 10 for four weeks. Bradley Cooper’s “Maestro,” despite making $383,552 million worldwide, has not cracked Netflix’s Top 10.

With theatrical now off the table, it’s also possible A-list creatives won’t want to work with the streamer if their movies won’t be seen outside the service. It’s why Amazon and Apple are still able to woo creatives by presenting them with a theatrical option that’s outsourced to other studios (like Apple’s “Argylle” being distributed by Universal).

“Netflix is a fire hose of product,” the film executive said. “When you have a firehose of product, you cannot have quality control. It’s hard to say, ‘Well, this little droplet of water we’re going to take it out, and we’re going to treat it with theatrical.’ Amazon and Apple have made it clear from the get-go that they’re not doing that.”

In the end, the individuals who spoke to TheWrap said Stuber was a bit of a unicorn. He’s an example of old-school Hollywood filmmaking attempting to bring an enhanced legitimacy to the streaming service. And many aren’t confident that his replacement will have similar gravitas.

As the film executive said: “Excellence at Netflix is the exception. It’s not the rule.”
Good in a way. The less they care about quality the easier it is to ignore their films. I just hope they don't continue to buy up festivals films like Hit Man.
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