Cyberpunk 2077 - PS5 Free Upgrade Expected Second Half 2021

[quirkmanly]

Originally Posted by cathexist

Anywhere that specifically says PS5 updates will be available at launch? I was under the impression it was just "playable on PS5" with the actual upgrades coming next year some time.

Looks like I'm getting it wrong at every turn. Yes, playable day 1, upgrade 2021.

[Mavrick]

The next gen version of this game will not be released until some time in 2021 at the earliest.

The game is playable on next gen platforms and will take advantage of faster load times and framerates but there will be no next gen features such as Ray Tracing until the next gen version is released.

CDPR have said that the next gen version will be available free to anyone that buys the game on current gen so you can start playing the PS4 version on PS4 or on PS5 and get the PS5 version free when it's released.

[NARMAK]

I think people need to appreciate that CDPR waiting to make a full and proper next gen upgrade is better for the game and they can learn a lot of lessons from feedback on the PC side to inform their RTRT implementation at the best performance balance.

[cathexist]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

The next gen version of this game will not be released until some time in 2021 at the earliest.

The game is playable on next gen platforms and will take advantage of faster load times and framerates but there will be no next gen features such as Ray Tracing until the next gen version is released.

CDPR have said that the next gen version will be available free to anyone that buys the game on current gen so you can start playing the PS4 version on PS4 or on PS5 and get the PS5 version free when it's released.

Definitely wishing we had ray tracing sooner rather than later.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by quirkmanly

Looks like I misspoke. It appears the PS5 upgrade will be available at launch, at least according to what I can find online now.

For the next gen versions of the PS4 game, I can't imagine a night/day difference in visuals since the game already looks stunning for consoles/PC as of now.

Performance of the game will likely be the biggest noticeable difference between the PS4 vs PS5 versions of the game. PS4 is going to struggle is my guess of this graphics heavy game. Watch Dogs Legion is struggling with frame rate and has some constant screen tearing when moving the camera on the PS4 for the pS4 version, though that's getting a PS5 upgrade November 12th thankfully. No need to wait till 2021.

But the PS4 Cyberpunk will hopefully get higher resolution and framerates as the main improvement aside from fast loading when installed on a PS5.

Since I'm getting the disc, I'll test both the PS4 vs PS4 update on PS5 of this game on my PS4 and PS5.
For PS4, I'm going to see how this game runs without any update at all.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by cathexist

Definitely wishing we had ray tracing sooner rather than later.

I don't think technically we even thought we'd get it as early as we did tbh. It's mostly been around in hardware form since the RTX 2080 series which was a top end GPU and only now Nvidia has a 2nd gen in only a few years that's iterated. That stuff can usually take 5+ years but to even have them include it now is amazing and was thought of as unthinkable as well as the actual specs when DF was hashing out the specs. They thought it was maybe going to be 9 Teraflops on a traditional GCN but instead it was far higher for both under RDNA2.

This console generation is the single greatest leap in terms of having top tier stuff such as the NVMe drives, the RTRT hardware and also the nature of specialised Audio engine hardware. Not to mention the DualSense hardware to amp immersion now we see how it can be actually used. Then there's the actual CPU & GPU set up which are far above and beyond anything you would have expected during the PS4 launch compared to PC equivalents for the price.

That said, i want to temper things by saying that it is truly getting harder to keep pushing graphics up and up in the HD era onwards. 4K/120hz really does seem like it will be the true end goal for decades to come even if we could potentially do 8K/60fps, it might not give the same performance boost visibly for the cost and we may see 4K/60fps with far more bells and whistles being pushed for.

[jedilips]

yeah I can't imagine having time to play this twice so I'll be waiting on the full next gen update.

[MD-Blu]

Originally Posted by jedilips

yeah I can't imagine having time to play this twice so I'll be waiting on the full next gen update.

That's what I'll be doing, even though it'll suck having to wait till sometime next year.

[Alhlan Ain Ajeeba]

When its released since we know we are not getting the full ps5 upgrade till next year,1 question. Will this play any better on ps5 than a ps4 pro? Will be using a ps5 and 4k tv.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by Alhlan Ain Ajeeba

When its released since we know we are not getting the full ps5 upgrade till next year,1 question. Will this play any better on ps5 than a ps4 pro? Will be using a ps5 and 4k tv.

Right now i would advise people to temper expectations as its just been seen that a lot of BC titles do not load significantly quicker than the HDD on the PS4 and graphically they will run at a more consistent level if there's a "Performance" mode to hit resolution and framerate caps.

I think CDPR said they will optimise a patch for the game on PS5 as apparently Sony has built it into the certification process all titles released after a certain date had to be compatible with PS5 and that probably means being able to use faster loading etc.

CDPR will probably patch the game but again, launch and them confirming it is needed.

[Member-115369]

Originally Posted by jedilips

yeah I can't imagine having time to play this twice so I'll be waiting on the full next gen update.

From what I've read there are distinct classes that lead to pretty different playthroughs, so I'll probably play it more than once.

Launch years for consoles tend to be pretty sparse in big AAA games I want to play, and I have a lot of time for gaming (don't really watch movies/shows anymore, don't have kids etc.), so I figure I'll get a playthrough in around launch and replay when the patch hits next year during some gap between new releases that interest me.

[Blu Lemmy]

I'll do the same. Will do a run through on release, then another when its patched

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Blu Lemmy

I'll do the same. Will do a run through on release, then another when its patched

The last delay was meant for optimizing each platform/sku.

Hopefully the game will run in “Native PS5” mode.

[bratpack]

They ****ed themselves up not releasing this earlier in the year now we have this headache of multiple versions I know people will say but it’s not ready I guarantee you on launch day bugs will still be all over the place in this game and now they will get a lot more shit for it because of the multiple delays

It’s not fair to say next gen versions are fine this game was built for the PS4 generation that version should be fine too obviously not runnning as smooth as it would on ps5 playback but still very playable

Rockstar was smart and released gtav 2 months before the PS4 launched so they didn’t need to deal with a situation like this

[Member-115369]

It just sounds like they were overly ambitious and ended up with a game that just doesn't run as well on current gen consoles.

People forget that CDPR is primarily a PC game developer, have their own PC game store and launcher (GOG) etc. Witcher 3 was their first big hit on consoles, and the PC version of that game was still far superior in performance.

It's pretty clear they probably develop games for PC and then work to get them running OK on consoles. Seems like they probably overshot what the PS4 and Xbox One can handle--especially the weaker launch versions of those consoles vs. the Pro and One X--and have been struggling to get them where they need to be to review well and make fans happy.

They are also a MUCH smaller studio that Rockstar in terms of number of personnel, money at their disposal etc. so they aren't going to do things as well or fast as them.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by dmaul1114

It just sounds like they were overly ambitious and ended up with a game that just doesn't run as well on current gen consoles.

People forget that CDPR is primarily a PC game developer, have their own PC game store and launcher (GOG) etc. Witcher 3 was their first big hit on consoles, and the PC version of that game was still far superior in performance.

It's pretty clear they probably develop games for PC and then work to get them running OK on consoles. Seems like they probably overshot what the PS4 and Xbox One can handle--especially the weaker launch versions of those consoles vs. the Pro and One X--and have been struggling to get them where they need to be to review well and make fans happy.

They are also a MUCH smaller studio that Rockstar in terms of number of personnel, money at their disposal etc. so they aren't going to do things as well or fast as them.

To their credit however, CDPR stay committed to releasing patches and making sure the titles get optimised as we saw for Witcher 3 and then subsequently how they improved the graphics and so on for the engine. They're taking all they learned and making a blow out end of gen game in Cyberpunk 2077 and i suspect it will be better optimised than Ubisoft does with Watch Dogs Legion which has shaky performance on base consoles. In fact, Sony mandated PS5 compatibility into certification before a proper next gen version arrives.

As for Witcher 3 running better on PC, do i really need to explain that concept to anybody? Consoles vs PC is a false comparison for many reasons.

[Member-115369]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

As for Witcher 3 running better on PC, do i really need to explain that concept to anybody? Consoles vs PC is a false comparison for many reasons.

Oh I wasn't trying to make a comparison. Just disputing that Cyberpunk was developed for current consoles. It wasn't. They're a PC first developer so they develop for that and then down port to consoles. Vs. the more console-focused developers who develop for consoles and then up port to PCs.

For studios like CDPR that focus on PC first, the console versions are more likely to have limitations and need patches to fix like with Witcher 3 did and the struggles they're apparently having with Cyberpunk on current consoles.

For the console focused studios, the PC ports often have a ton of issues at launch (Arkham Knight and Control come to mind) and the improvements from the console version often aren't as great as in games developed for PC first.

As you note, it's not a long term concern as they are good at keeping at their games and patching as needed to improve them. For me, there's no way I bother playing this on my PS4 Pro though. I don't think I can hold off until the next gen upgrade patch is out next year, but I'll hold off until I score a PS5 or XSX even if it takes a couple months as I want to at least experience the best current version of the game (aside from a topline PC as mine's old and would run it worse than PS5/XSX).

[Zivouhr]

Yeah, Watch Dogs Legion on PS4 has solid graphics, but the frame rate while riding bikes/driving is choppy feeling, and the screen tearing is a constant issue that kind of ruins the immersion of the game on PS4. I'm upgrading it for free with the PS5 upgrade on November 12th, and believing it'll fix those issues.

But yeah, the PS4 can offer amazing graphics, but performance is the issue as with Days Gone too. That game shows off impressive textures and detail, but it loads the game poorly and is choppy with the framerate many times, even with the giant update. It's being updated just for PS5 to address the concerns, offering 60 fps and 4K.

Cyberpunk on PS4, I can imagine is going to have some frame rate issues. The graphics on this game are really intensive with all of the detail and effects going on. The PS4 update for play on a PS5 will help a bit I'm guess.

[BenCharles]

Originally Posted by quirkmanly

Looks like I misspoke. It appears the PS5 upgrade will be available at launch, at least according to what I can find online now.

YES, the game is in fact ready for next-gen consoles and PC and they are only finding few issues with game versions for current consoles. That's why they have delayed the launch to 21 days.

[Member-115369]

It is optimized to run better on next gen consoles at launch. But there is also a full on next gen free upgrade coming sometime in 2021. I assume that will add higher res textures etc.