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Old 05-10-2022, 09:02 PM   #4721
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The production of the movie was horrible. They scrapped the script weeks before filming began and started a new script that they technically never finished. They had planned to have the military attacked by flying dinosaurs to call back to the opening and use the raptor vocalization to have them come fight and kill the Spinosaurus, but it all got cut before filming and the movie just...ends.
Even the fact that it's titled "Jurassic Park III" speaks to the rushed laziness of it. It's a shame because Johnston is a good director.
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:31 PM   #4722
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Those 2 and Jurassic World. That’s all I needed.
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Old 05-10-2022, 10:32 PM   #4723
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Yeah I just much prefer his elaborate set pieces and pacing. My ideal JP franchise would have been a trilogy, with The Lost World ending with the T-Rex roaring against the San Diego skyline, and the third being Jurassic World, directed by Spielberg, with dinos running wild on the mainland. Took them way too long to get to that point, and I really don't need to see Chris Pratt riding dinosaurs.
Which was basically their original plan. The Lost World was to focus more on being this "lost world" (heh) adventure on Isla Sorna, and then the third film would be about dinosaurs on the mainland.

Then, once Spielberg realized he didn't want to direct any more Jurassic sequels after TLW, he decided dinosaurs running amok on the mainland was too fun not to do himself, and incorporated it into his film via the San Diego sequence. This left the third installment aimless, without an obvious direction to go in for its premise/story, which is the root cause of the script issues with that film.

How different things would be had they stuck to the original idea. Perhaps better? But I still love the San Diego sequence.

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Do you think maybe he'll step in when #6 comes out, and they want to do the bigger 6 movie set, and will want everyone to double-dip? I only want the first one on 4k since the others are ok, but not great, and DVD/blu ray is fine for us for everything but the first one. Of course they probably will only upgrade the disk for the new set, not for the single releases. I normally wouldn't upgrade something I've bought on DVD and blu ray already, but our experience seeing this makes it something we have to have on 4k (we do upgrade our favorite movies though but this isn't even in our top 25). We saw it at a drive-in in a thunderstorm and with the severe weather we were picking up some weird radio station along with the sound from the theater that sounded like some evil satanic service, it was a great time! But I don't think it's worth upgrading the first movie until they do a proper release of it.
If he hasn't cared until now, I doubt Spielberg will suddenly start caring about JP looking its best now. The current UHD is probably the best we'll ever get on physical media, and personally I can deal with that. It could have been worse, John. A lot worse.

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Old 05-10-2022, 10:36 PM   #4724
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Was The Lost World in any store or is this an online purchase?
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Old 05-10-2022, 10:41 PM   #4725
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If he hasn't cared until now, I doubt Spielberg will suddenly start caring about JP looking its best now. The current UHD is probably the best we'll ever get on physical media, and personally I can deal with that. It could have been worse, John. A lot worse.
Yep, it could've been wrecked. But it's still very sloppy in parts (and boy do I wish they hadn't black clipped what is an otherwise luvverly transfer for Lost World, they did the same to JP3 as well) so I still be like

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Old 05-10-2022, 11:28 PM   #4726
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I was really hoping those new releases had embossed slips. Oh well...saves me a double dip opportunity!
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Old 05-10-2022, 11:43 PM   #4727
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Hi, just want to confirm: the blu-rays included with these are the ancient blu-rays from over a decade ago and not new transfers, correct?

I know the 4K is the same, but just want to confirm that the regular blu disks aren't remastered and are still the older master versions. Say what you will about the 4K version of the original Jurassic Park, but it is LEAGUES better than that horrific DVD-era master used on the blu.

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Old 05-10-2022, 11:44 PM   #4728
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Yep, it could've been wrecked. But it's still very sloppy in parts (and boy do I wish they hadn't black clipped what is an otherwise luvverly transfer for Lost World, they did the same to JP3 as well) so I still be like

What's the best bluray to own of the film? Is the bluray that's included good enough?
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Old 05-11-2022, 12:16 AM   #4729
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What's the best bluray to own of the film? Is the bluray that's included good enough?
SDR blu-ray for JP1?

There is no single best one. The 4K transfer is the "best" for an official release and I prefer the 3D audio mix out of all the options due the best dynamics and less excessive compression/limiting.

I just came across what is supposedly DTS Cinema mix and in comparison to the other mixes that could indeed be the case. That version requires a gain increase of 6-10dbs for the LFE. The 10db increase works quite well and is similar to the DVD DTS mix but with greater clarity and precision.
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Old 05-11-2022, 01:43 AM   #4730
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I was really hoping those new releases had embossed slips. Oh well...saves me a double dip opportunity!
That aspect of the BD logo covers I like better, and what makes it most baffling is technically the slips are embossed, just it’s only the 4K banner across the top.
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Received my copies from Amazon today - all with rather scuffed up slipcovers. I'll tell ya' - deciding not to save slipcovers was one of the best decisions of my collecting career. In to the trash, and one less thing to obsess over.
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That aspect of the BD logo covers I like better, and what makes it most baffling is technically the slips are embossed, just it’s only the 4K banner across the top.
Gotcha and I do appreciate the logos/banners being embossed. Wanted the actual JP logo embossed though. Or at least the letters.
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Best place to order for undamaged slips? Bull Moose? Gruv? I want to order these and the Hitchcock titles.
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Best place to order for undamaged slips? Bull Moose? Gruv? I want to order these and the Hitchcock titles.
Curious what some may say, but I’d definitely suggest regardless ordering them all at once, as you’ll be most likely to get a box then, especially if doing all the JP and Hitchcock titles at once.
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Though I’ve grown to not completely hate this revisionist logo for JP3, I’m hoping someone makes a custom for at least the regular case that’s the actual original poster with the Spinosaurus logo.
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Old 05-11-2022, 01:14 PM   #4736
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Though I’ve grown to not completely hate this revisionist logo for JP3, I’m hoping someone makes a custom for at least the regular case that’s the actual original poster with the Spinosaurus logo.
That always irked me a bit as well. It's not exactly spoiling anything now, is it?
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Old 05-11-2022, 01:28 PM   #4737
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I picked up JP 1 and 4 last night from walmart. I was surprised they were only 20 CAD each. I need to go back and see if they have 2 and 3. I enjoyed JP 3 a lot.

I liked all the JP movies actually. So ill try to grab all of them in 4K including fallen kingdom

I have JP 1 , 4 and 5 in 3D as well.
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That always irked me a bit as well. It's not exactly spoiling anything now, is it?
For what it’s worth Lost World, before the script was redone to add the San Diego sequence, was supposed to use a raptor for its logo. Ultimately I get the change for 3, since it created a consistency across all 6 logos, but it still bothers me the original is basically just swept under a rug. Maybe they’ll revisit changing the featured Dino again for JP7.
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I recently rewatched the JP 4K transfer and I have to agree, it could have been worse. There was less DNR than I remember. That being said, the horrible black levels and lack of meaningful HDR once again stood out to me on my family's OLED...
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Best place to order for undamaged slips? Bull Moose? Gruv? I want to order these and the Hitchcock titles.
I haven't ordered from Gruv, but I've been using BullMoose and have the highest percentage of undamaged slips from them by far.

If you pre-order, you are most likely to get a box. Anything that ships from the main online order fulfillment warehouse comes in a box or a cardboard mailer. Things only go downhill if you order something that gets shipped from a store (which still could happen with a pre-order, but rarely). They use bubble mailers. You still can get a box from the store if ordering multiple movies.

This week, I had a TON of stuff from BullMoose with slips. All of the Jurassic Park movies and all the single Hitchcock releases. The JP movies I really did rebuy for the slips and to not have to rely on the book-packaging I previously had.

I would say all of those slips arrived in near perfect condition. Almost all of the JP slips had some issue, but not due to Bullmoose. It was mainly the varying severity of the art having small spots where the metallic silver finish is seen so you have silver dots popping up. Seems to be common and almost unavoidable. Mainly looked the worst on the first movie with the solid black background.

I order almost everything from Bullmoose and it has cut my aggravation way down. Even when I have a slip arrive with an issue that bugs me and head out to a retailer to see if there is something better, almost none of them are. Slips at retailers are often not great for anyone looking for perfect (which is probably 2 people).
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