Fantastic Four (2015) - Page 242 - Blu-ray Forum

Bolty · 08-03-2015, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

I agree. I'm baffled at Marvel Studio fans who want the X-men to revert back. As a big MS fan as well as a fan of most of the Fox-Men films I think they should stay where they are. They're a big money maker and I don't want MS pushing other more interesting or unique projects like Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Doctor Strange back for a new X film.

When it comes down to it, I only wish Marvel could get the rights back to those two you mentioned. Infinity War just won't be the same or as epic as it could be without Silver Surfer and Galactus.

I agree 100%.
I have no interest in X-Men coming back to marvel any time soon. And especially no merging of the current Fox X-Men universe---that would be ridiculous.
The X-Men movie clear there are literally hundreds of thousands of mutants or MORE worldwide. When Prof X goes into Cerebro the entire globe lights up with mutant locations ----Saudi desert, Antarctica, Amazon rain forest, etc.

To try to pretend that hundreds of thousands of super-powered mutants exist everywhere would diminish the handful of heroes MCU has introduced.

If MCU ever gets it back in the 2020s maybe, they would have to start small with only a few dozen at most mutants and make each new one found seem like a big deal.

Darkstream · 08-03-2015, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolty

I agree 100%.
I have no interest in X-Men coming back to marvel any time soon. And especially no merging of the current Fox X-Men universe---that would be ridiculous.
The X-Men movie clear there are literally hundreds of thousands of mutants or MORE worldwide. When Prof X goes into Cerebro the entire globe lights up with mutant locations ----Saudi desert, Antarctica, Amazon rain forest, etc.

To try to pretend that hundreds of thousands of super-powered mutants exist everywhere would diminish the handful of heroes MCU has introduced.

If MCU ever gets it back in the 2020s maybe, they would have to start small with only a few dozen at most mutants and make each new one found seem like a big deal.

Marvel will never get X-Men back, unless they buy Fox!

On the other hand, the Fantastic Four and their related characters... it's possible.

Hellraiserfan · 08-03-2015, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolty

I agree 100%.
I have no interest in X-Men coming back to marvel any time soon. And especially no merging of the current Fox X-Men universe---that would be ridiculous.
The X-Men movie clear there are literally hundreds of thousands of mutants or MORE worldwide. When Prof X goes into Cerebro the entire globe lights up with mutant locations ----Saudi desert, Antarctica, Amazon rain forest, etc.

To try to pretend that hundreds of thousands of super-powered mutants exist everywhere would diminish the handful of heroes MCU has introduced.

If MCU ever gets it back in the 2020s maybe, they would have to start small with only a few dozen at most mutants and make each new one found seem like a big deal.

As a big fan of Marvel comics I've always felt even in the comic book world the X-men just didn't fit right. They are a large enough universe of their own that they could exist perfectly fine not set in the same time as all the other Marvel properties.

spectre08 · 08-03-2015, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raylop69

http://www.comicvine.com/marvel/4010...they-a-666672/

doesn't exactly clear up the issue of Silver Surfer and Galactus though. I imagine it might be hard to argue that they are specifically tied to Fantastic Four exclusively. SS was debuted in FF comics, but appeared in a meager 12 editions before coming a whole separate series, and becoming massively intertwined with the other marvel characters.

raylop69 · 08-03-2015, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Det. Bullock

1- bullshit, it applies to about 75% of CBM directors, actors, etc;

Studios that OWN the characters don't stray that far from the source material

2- fans flung shit at the movie since the start, I wouldn't be surprised if he took them at face value instead of recognizing them as marvel studios fanboys;

You cannot prove this, Your point is moot

3- considering certain comment I've read around the 'net I don't blame him;

But when fans are paying to see your movie, You should always tread lightly

4- which someone said happened even with those crappy Batman movies that bombed so hard

;

Someone said???......lol

5- I'm not sure I'm following you...

6- overseas people don't care about that, few people read comics, but many remember the X-men cartoon from the 90s;

So are you saying that overseas fans don't read comics or no one in general reads comics?

7- we have to see how many of the people who go see CBMs are FANS that drink every idiocy about the director and cast on the internet.

We shall see next week

I still haven't figured out how to reply to each line, So forgive me

octagon · 08-03-2015, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Jack

Twitter users gushed over Green Lantern pre-release. That should tell the world how much stock to put in those "reviews".

Green Lantern was pretty good. It certainly wasn't great but anybody who gushed about it was a lot closer to right than the people who savaged it.

Sorry

Hellraiserfan · 08-03-2015, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by octagon

Green Lantern was pretty good. It certainly wasn't great but anybody who gushed about it was a lot closer to right than the people who savaged it.

Sorry

Keep moving those goal posts.

octagon · 08-03-2015, 09:53 PM

Oh, I'm still hoping this lives up to Chronicle.

The goalposts are exactly where they've been from the start.

Bolty · 08-03-2015, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

As a big fan of Marvel comics I've always felt even in the comic book world the X-men just didn't fit right. They are a large enough universe of their own that they could exist perfectly fine not set in the same time as all the other Marvel properties.

You are probably younger than I am. When the X-Men started in 1963 and thru 1970 there was a grand total of about 20 mutants introduced.

A very manageable number to add the existing non mutants heroes.

Those low numbers are the only way it could fit into the MCU.

But obviously I'm all four the FF to join the MCU----as soon as possible.

raylop69 · 08-03-2015, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spectre08

doesn't exactly clear up the issue of Silver Surfer and Galactus though. I imagine it might be hard to argue that they are specifically tied to Fantastic Four exclusively. SS was debuted in FF comics, but appeared in a meager 12 editions before coming a whole separate series, and becoming massively intertwined with the other marvel characters.

http://screenrant.com/marvel-comics-...ers-carl-6766/

Hellraiserfan · 08-03-2015, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolty

You are probably younger than I am. When the X-Men started in 1963 and thru 1970 there was a grand total of about 20 mutants introduced.

A very manageable number to add the existing non mutants heroes.

Those low numbers are the only way it could fit into the MCU.

But obviously I'm all four the FF to join the MCU----as soon as possible.

Definitely in the older days. The past few decades though it would be insane.

Doctor Jack · 08-03-2015, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by octagon

Green Lantern was pretty good. It certainly wasn't great but anybody who gushed about it was a lot closer to right than the people who savaged it.

Sorry

Well I'm glad the movie has 1 fan. No movie should be completely fanless.

Jasonic · 08-03-2015, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Jack

Well I'm glad the movie has 1 fan. No movie should be completely fanless.

My dad likes it too. Though that's not really saying much. He likes all comic book movies, or anything with action.

CelestialAgent · 08-03-2015, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GC Riot

I'm not sure I've ever seen a superhero film get surrounded by this much controversy before. It seems like half the internet is looking at this film as some sort of personal insult made only to piss them off. So much anger and hatred over a simple summer film. It really is rather sad...

Welcome to online nerd culture.

GC Riot · 08-03-2015, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Welcome to online nerd culture.

Oh I've been apart of it since close to the start, but I've never really seen anything like this... Not the Star Wars prequels, not Batman and Robin, this is on a whole other level...

Det. Bullock · 08-03-2015, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raylop69

We shall see next week

I still haven't figured out how to reply to each line, So forgive me

It's not about the quality of the movie itself of course, but it seems that people around the internet were negative from the start, even with "fist ass" I didn't see such pre-release negativity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by octagon

Green Lantern was pretty good. It certainly wasn't great but anybody who gushed about it was a lot closer to right than the people who savaged it.

Sorry

It was savaged because it was bad, there were a few good scenes (that were all in the trailers of course) but everything was like someone broke it and hastily put the pieces back toghether.

Bolty · 08-03-2015, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

Definitely in the older days. The past few decades though it would be insane.

It's funny how 1960s marvel had just a few archetype heroes

The govt made hero------------Cap
The self made tech hero--------Iron Man
The alien god hero--------------Thor
The tragic "hero"----------------Hulk
The accidental hero--------------Spider-man
The genetically altered heroes--Inhumans
Non powered spy heroes--------Nick Fury/Shield

The accidental hero team-------Fantastic Four
Self made genetic hero ---------Ant-Man/Wasp
Accidental hero II----------------Daredevil
The reformed villain/heroes----Hawkeye, Black widow
Outsiders in their own domain--Namor, Ka-Zar, Panther
Alien heroes----------------------Surfer, Mar-vell

The mutant heroes--------------X-Men (about 10 "good" mutants)

That sustained marvel for nearly a decade.

The mutant protest rally in X-Men 3 had a dozen times that number mutants in one room!

sandman slim · 08-03-2015, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkstream

Marvel will never get X-Men back, unless they buy Fox!

Disney's bought everything else lately -- Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, ABC, ESPN-- they might as well get Fox, too...

Hellraiserfan · 08-03-2015, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GC Riot

Oh I've been apart of it since close to the start, but I've never really seen anything like this... Not the Star Wars prequels, not Batman and Robin, this is on a whole other level...

You must have missed out on all the rage towards Michael Bay and producer Don Murphy up to and during the release of the first Transformers film. Soooo much butthurt.

octagon · 08-03-2015, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Jack

Well I'm glad the movie has 1 fan. No movie should be completely fanless.

Just wait, in a few years it will be a cult classic and in a few years more it will be a misunderstood masterpiece.

It'll be like Nicolas Cage. Except it will be good.

View Poll Results: Rate Fantastic Four
1 Star	94	42.53%
2 Stars	59	26.70%
3 Stars	53	23.98%
4 Stars	13	5.88%
5 Stars	2	0.90%
Voters: 221. You may not vote on this poll

08-03-2015, 09:53 PM	#4828
octagon Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Chicago 4K collection:255 Blu-ray collection:2799	Oh, I'm still hoping this lives up to Chronicle. The goalposts are exactly where they've been from the start.

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals