The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[gregmasciola]

Originally Posted by mrpink134

Wow I love this movie! Looks great and sounds great!

Please Please stop with the scalper talk! Its getting real old and has nothing to do with a release

Well, it started because the original poster said that the first time he's done it is with this release, so actually, it kind of does have something to do with a release. Asking mods to get rid of everything that is a little off topic is silly, in my opinion. I can understand if the conversation gets extremely out of hand and uncivil, but really, the debate only takes up about one page in this thread. All you have to do is either avoid the thread or scroll past those posts. I do it all the time when about a hundred people post that their copy shipped or didn't ship.

[42041]

"Inception 2"? Huh?
The only thing Inception and TDKR have in common is a few actors...

[gregmasciola]

Originally Posted by kono

the ending is straight off from Inception.

So at the end of inception,

[Show spoiler]Joseph Gordon Levitt finds the Batcave, Leo and Michael Caine see each other at a cafe, but don't speak, and Ken Watanabe (hope I spelled correctly) finds a new Bat Signal?

Originally Posted by Brahby

I thought he was just referring to the cast

I kept wondering when Leo was gonna show up. I guess a director using a group of actors a couple of times isn't as crazy as using one actor a hundred times, though. I'm speaking to you, Tim Burton and Johnny Depp.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by thelittleprince

Going to do a movie marathon of the trilogy this weekend. Hope I will like TDKR more my second viewing. Was disappointed when I saw it at the theaters this summer. My rating of the films:

BB 4/5
TDK 5/5
TDKR 3/5

I didn't care for it much in theaters, so I tried the same thing. I liked it even less on a 2nd viewing... all the bad writing/plot holes/disjointed narrative moments really stuck out even more. The problem is that the movie never flows, it's just a series of scenes that really don't fit together. Oh well.

[dholmes]

What about the scene with flying bat it blew me out of my seat!

[jag2007]

Watching the batmobile doc now.....WOW!

[Uxi]

I enjoy the move more each time. First theater viewing (normal theater), I had a bunch of suspension of disbelief issues cropping up. Enjoyed it a bunch more on IMAX in second viewing. Third viewing on BD last night was even better.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by AreaUnderTheCurve

Maybe some of us don't care about plot holes and instead try and gauge whether or not a filmmaker did what was intended. I no longer care about plot holes. I look at themes and determine if they're carried through or not. This is why I hate Skyfall and have a love/hate relationship with The Dark Knight. If this was any other movie, I would treat it the same as I do others by doing what I outlined in this post.

Maybe some people saw little to no plot holes. Maybe some people weren't paying attention because they didnt think they needed to, because when they went to the theater they went in looking for plot holes.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by thelittleprince

Going to do a movie marathon of the trilogy this weekend. Hope I will like TDKR more my second viewing. Was disappointed when I saw it at the theaters this summer. My rating of the films:

BB 4/5
TDK 5/5
TDKR 3/5

Strongly disagree. BB is super soft + bit starved encoded at 13 Mbps using VC-1.

BB 3.25/5
TDK 4/5 - due to EE.
TDKR 4.25/5

[MercsOwnz]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Strongly disagree. BB is super soft + bit starved encoded at 13 Mbps using VC-1.

BB 3.25/5
TDK 4/5 - due to EE.
TDKR 4.25/5

Do you really grade in a .25 scale? And what is EE?

[TheBully]

Originally Posted by thelittleprince

Going to do a movie marathon of the trilogy this weekend. Hope I will like TDKR more my second viewing. Was disappointed when I saw it at the theaters this summer. My rating of the films:

BB 4/5
TDK 5/5
TDKR 3/5

Agreed with these ratings.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by MercsOwnz

Do you really grade in a .25 scale? And what is EE?

Indecisive people use a .25 scale.

[gregmasciola]

Originally Posted by retablo

I didn't care for it much in theaters, so I tried the same thing. I liked it even less on a 2nd viewing... all the bad writing/plot holes/disjointed narrative moments really stuck out even more. The problem is that the movie never flows, it's just a series of scenes that really don't fit together. Oh well.

I'm kind of on the fence about this one. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as the first two films, but don't think it was terrible, either. One thing I did like on my second viewing, though, was I could use captions (so I could actually understand everything that Bane says). I think what bothers me about this movie is:

1. Most of our main characters (Bruce, Alfred & Gordon) aren't in the movie as much as they should be.

[Show spoiler] Bruce is in a prison for about a third of the film, Gordon in the hospital and Alfred leaves pretty early in the film only to show up again at the very end.

2. Whenever a character is telling someone else a story (like Alfred explaining to Bruce how he never wanted him to come back to Gotham), they seem like they're in a rush, trying to say everything too fast.

3. One "plot hole" that bothers me is near the end.

[Show spoiler] We know that Bruce wasn't in the Bat when it blew up, but even when it was flying way out over the water, they show him inside it. Maybe it just had an ejector seat.

4. Last one.

[Show spoiler]When Talia/Miranda dies, I felt like that was the worst performance of someone dying that I've ever seen.

I know, I sound like I'm just complaining, but I still kind of liked the movie. I just don't feel like the good outweighs the bad, or vice versa.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by kono

I agreed with your rating.. I feel like I'm watching Inception 2 with TDKR. Definitely the weakest of the trilogy. I bet Nolan is burned out with Dark Knight.

Wait there's an Inception 2?

Airplane 2- Shatner Scene2.flv - YouTube

[jonsmith369]

Originally Posted by gregmasciola

I kept wondering when Leo was gonna show up. I guess a director using a group of actors a couple of times isn't as crazy as using one actor a hundred times, though. I'm speaking to you, Tim Burton and Johnny Depp.

With some directors constantly reusing actors it really makes you wonder what went wrong with the actors who never get to come back in future films. It seems odd that Nolan never had another role for Guy Pearce in the last 12 years when I thought he was impressed with him in Memento. I'm sure there is a story out there somewhere that I'm not aware of explaining it. I mean I would have guessed Guy also has the ability to lower his voice and growl like Batman.

[TheBully]

Originally Posted by gregmasciola

I'm kind of on the fence about this one. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as the first two films, but don't think it was terrible, either. One thing I did like on my second viewing, though, was I could use captions (so I could actually understand everything that Bane says). I think what bothers me about this movie is:

1. Most of our main characters (Bruce, Alfred & Gordon) aren't in the movie as much as they should be.

[Show spoiler] Bruce is in a prison for about a third of the film, Gordon in the hospital and Alfred leaves pretty early in the film only to show up again at the very end.

2. Whenever a character is telling someone else a story (like Alfred explaining to Bruce how he never wanted him to come back to Gotham), they seem like they're in a rush, trying to say everything too fast.

3. One "plot hole" that bothers me is near the end.

[Show spoiler] We know that Bruce wasn't in the Bat when it blew up, but even when it was flying way out over the water, they show him inside it. Maybe it just had an ejector seat.

4. Last one.

[Show spoiler]When Talia/Miranda dies, I felt like that was the worst performance of someone dying that I've ever seen.

I know, I sound like I'm just complaining, but I still kind of liked the movie. I just don't feel like the good outweighs the bad, or vice versa.

Sums up my feelings. I'll use the captions too.

Regarding about the Bat.

[Show spoiler]Theres a part after Talia dies when Catwoman asks Batman about how he's going to fly the Bat, he replies quickly by saying "autopilot". It was so fast most people might have missed that part. So I'm guessing when he flew by the buildings and it exploded with a dust of smoke, he ejected in some of break away capsule like how the Batbike came out of the Tumbler. It's probably like the original Batman where the Penguin was controlling the Batmobile in a mini Batmobile. Anyway I think Batman was in the the miniBat plane or whatever controlling the Bat as it exploded.

[Belloso]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I would think so as it has the movie and extras disc.

Thanks. Was just afraid that it would be only TDK Reborn for some reason.

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by gregmasciola

3. One "plot hole" that bothers me is near the end.

[Show spoiler] We know that Bruce wasn't in the Bat when it blew up, but even when it was flying way out over the water, they show him inside it. Maybe it just had an ejector seat.

4. Last one.

[Show spoiler]When Talia/Miranda dies, I felt like that was the worst performance of someone dying that I've ever seen.

I know, I sound like I'm just complaining, but I still kind of liked the movie. I just don't feel like the good outweighs the bad, or vice versa.

Regarding #3, it's not exactly clear when he's no longer inside. It sure seems like he's in there right before the end based on the sunlight reflecting off of his face.

As for #4, that was bad, but nothing will ever top Trinity in The Matrix Convolutions for me. I swear that scene went on for 5 minutes and got so tedious that I was screaming along with others in theater for her to just kick the bucket already.

Originally Posted by TheBully

Sums up my feelings. I'll use the captions too.

Regarding about the Bat.

[Show spoiler]Theres a part after Talia dies when Catwoman asks Batman about how he's going to fly the Bat, he replies quickly by saying "autopilot". It was so fast most people might have missed that part. So I'm guessing when he flew by the buildings and it exploded with a dust of smoke, he ejected in some of break away capsule like how the Batbike came out of the Tumbler. It's probably like the original Batman where the Penguin was controlling the Batmobile in a mini Batmobile. Anyway I think Batman was in the the miniBat plane or whatever controlling the Bat as it exploded.

Actually he says "no autopilot".

[TheBully]

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

Actually he says "no autopilot".

Thanks, I have to watch my copy soon ha. All this time thats what I got out of it, now I may start to get bothered on how he

[Show spoiler]escaped

now ha.

[42041]

Originally Posted by MercsOwnz

Do you really grade in a .25 scale? And what is EE?

EE is edge enhancement.
My own video quality ratings:
BB: don't remember/care
TDK: 2/5 for 35mm scenes, 4.5/5 for IMAX scenes
TDKR: 4/5 for 35mm scenes, 5/5 for IMAX scenes
I think TDKR looks fairly nice overall. 35mm scenes are lackluster but better than the TDK mess.