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Old 02-01-2008, 04:59 AM   #1
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Universal Studios Miami Vice (2006) (Unrated Director's Cut)

I have the standard edition DVD, and it looks good on my 32". But I don't think it will look that great in HD, especially the night-time scenes that carry noticeable video noise. The reviewers of the HD-DVD says that it's presented in the best way it can be in High Definition, so can I really expect the BD release--if released--to be miles ahead of the HD-DVD transfer? And would it be worth upgrading?

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Old 02-01-2008, 05:23 AM   #2
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I am sure that since Mann is a big blu supporter, he would make that this release is redone for blu ray.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:28 AM   #3
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I would say no. Of course, I would recommend never watching this piece of garbage again but that is my opinion.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:31 AM   #4
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I believe Vice and Collateral were both shot with digital cameras. I would much rather have Collateral on Blu-ray over Vice.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:48 AM   #5
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Michael Mann's Best Movies (in reverse chronological order)

Miami Vice (Universal)
Collateral (DreamWorks/Paramount)
Ali (Columbia/Sony)
The Insider (Buena Vista Pictures/Disney)
Heat (Warner)
The Last of the Mohicans (Fox)
Thief (MGM)
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Michael Mann's Best Movies (in reverse chronological order)

Miami Vice (Universal)
Collateral (DreamWorks/Paramount)
Ali (Columbia/Sony)
The Insider (Buena Vista Pictures/Disney)
Heat (Warner)
The Last of the Mohicans (Fox)
Thief (MGM)
The fact that you don't have Manhunter on this list is a travesty.

As for Vice, if it's ever released on BD, I don't think the PQ will be mindblowing.

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Old 02-03-2008, 12:09 PM   #7
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I have the standard edition DVD, and it looks good on my 32". But I don't think it will look that great in HD, especially the night-time scenes that carry noticeable video noise. The reviewers of the HD-DVD says that it's presented in the best way it can be in High Definition, so can I really expect the BD release--if released--to be miles ahead of the HD-DVD transfer? And would it be worth upgrading?
If your main concern is picture quality, then do not upgrade. I doubt that there will be a new encode for it and I am not impressed with my HD-DVD version. The visual style of the movie won't add much to any hd version. It's like expecting POTC pq on Cloverfield.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:21 PM   #8
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Is the grain more prominent in HD? Are there no improvements whatsoever in the HD version compared to the standard version?--even in the day-light scenes?
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Is the grain more prominent in HD? Are there no improvements whatsoever in the HD version compared to the standard version?--even in the day-light scenes?
Not when your hardware upscales the standard version. Impressions will vary depending on hardware and setup. I am using a 42 lcd rear projection. This tv makes it hard for me to "upgrade" to a flat panel because I love the picture so much. If you are using a 32" lcd, then I honestly doubt the style of the movie will add to your viewing pleasure. Perhaps on a screen 50+ calibrated and all......If you are fixated on pq, then it will only frustrate you.
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pure garbage! some of the scenes in this are no better then standard DVD. very disappointed.
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No scene in any blu ray is going to look worse than a DVD, except for maybe early Blu Ray's such as The Italian Job, Terminator 2, and House of Flying Daggers. Miami Vice was shot with a digital camera and was ment to be grainy, or at least that's how I remembered it in the theater.

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It looks as intended.
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Old 02-08-2009, 01:45 AM   #13
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No complaints here! Miami Vice is an excellent movie and features great performances by Colin Farrell and Jaime Foxx. Very tight directing by Michael Mann and one of his best flicks. IMO a showcase blu ray!!! Mann flicks in order

Heat
Last of the Mohicans
Miami Vice
Ali
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Old 02-08-2009, 01:45 AM   #14
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Different strokes.

Thought it was a wonderful transfer. Faithful to the Director's intent. Universal has some of the best Blu's out and they are just getting started. For some reason, people just want wax statues for actors (See Patton).

I guess we need to go round and round on this one for Blu-ray now too...

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I have it on HD-DVD and looks good. I don't think the movie is worth a double dip for me though. No complaints.
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It looks as intended.
they intended for one scene to be crystal clear and one scene to be grainy as hell? Like the part toward the beginning when they are in the club and Colin Farrell was hitting on the bartender. the parts were the camera was on him were crystal clear then it would switch to her talking and the pic was Grainy and just plain sh1tty? if they did that on purpose that the dumbest thing i have ever seen. Isn't the point of high definition to be clear and colorful. If i wanted a garbage picture i would just watch standard DVD.
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they intended for one scene to be crystal clear and one scene to be grainy as hell? Like the part toward the beginning when they are in the club and Colin Farrell was hitting on the bartender. the parts were the camera was on him were crystal clear then it would switch to her talking and the pic was Grainy and just plain sh1tty? if they did that on purpose that the dumbest thing i have ever seen. Isn't the point of high definition to be clear and colorful. If i wanted a garbage picture i would just watch standard DVD.
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Michael Mann used Specific cameras that have low light issues on purpose. He wanted that gritty old fashioned look that the original Series had and tried to emulate that. The noise (not grain, no film) was a byproduct that had to be lived with to get the intended "texture" of the film due to the cameras he wanted to use.
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Isn't the point of high definition to be clear and colorful.
I think you are missing the point. We are talking about film making and Director's intent - not how the film will eventually "look" when transferred to BD or dvd. When transferred to disc, we would hope that the film will "look" how the director intended it to look - in this case grainy and gritty - and, by definition, even more so on Blu ray. The film was made intentionally to look grainy and gritty in most scenes and that is exactly how the film should look on BD.
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they intended for one scene to be crystal clear and one scene to be grainy as hell?
Yes. Its a characteristic of the cameras used.
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they intended for one scene to be crystal clear and one scene to be grainy as hell? Like the part toward the beginning when they are in the club and Colin Farrell was hitting on the bartender. the parts were the camera was on him were crystal clear then it would switch to her talking and the pic was Grainy and just plain sh1tty? if they did that on purpose that the dumbest thing i have ever seen. Isn't the point of high definition to be clear and colorful. If i wanted a garbage picture i would just watch standard DVD.
Yeah, it was as intended. It was all shot on digital. Mann went for a lot of natural lighting, so a lot of the dark scenes are grainy. It was how it was supposed to be.
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