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Old 01-27-2023, 04:08 PM   #5081
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Release order. Every film is worse then the one that came before.
Except JP3, which is better than TLW.
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Old 01-27-2023, 04:18 PM   #5082
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Except JP3, which is better than TLW.
I would say TLW edges out JP3 slightly, but I understand why people might like it better.

Unlike people who put JWD anywhere but the bottom. Their opinions are bad and they should feel bad.
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Old 01-27-2023, 04:20 PM   #5083
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Except JP3, which is better than TLW.
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Old 01-27-2023, 04:25 PM   #5084
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Really liked JPIII when I was a young'un but I thought it was a bit shit when I last saw it. The missus has bought me the 6-film UHD for my birthday, though, so who knows, maybe I'll come back round to appreciating it.
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Old 01-27-2023, 04:46 PM   #5085
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I would say TLW edges out JP3 slightly, but I understand why people might like it better.

Unlike people who put JWD anywhere but the bottom. Their opinions are bad and they should feel bad.
JP3 goes straight to the point and doesn't overstay its welcome. I think it has good pacing too. TLW has a better score and some cool sequences, I'll give it that. And is of course miles better than any JW movie.
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Old 01-27-2023, 04:54 PM   #5086
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This is the correct order. I really like Jurassic World. Dominion tries to be too epic. Too many characters and too much going on, kind of like Rise of Skywalker.
^this
I do like it to some extent, but I just couldn't really feel satisfied at the end with too much going on. At least Fallen Kingdom is some nice dumb popcorn entertainment that doesn't try to do too much. Well, actually it doesn't do too much thinking at all. Even for the franchise standards.
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Old 01-28-2023, 03:40 AM   #5087
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JP3 goes straight to the point and doesn't overstay its welcome. I think it has good pacing too. TLW has a better score and some cool sequences, I'll give it that. And is of course miles better than any JW movie.
JP3 gives more appreciation to the wonder of dinosaurs and is more original as well. TLW was soooo jaded! After JP and the wonderful and majesty of the great beasts, TLW just was like all whatever and trap 'em up, just felt like not he vibe we wanted, with more effects to really revel in the wonder of seeing dinosaurs.
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Old 01-28-2023, 04:48 PM   #5088
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JP3 commits one of the worst sins a sequel can of only going through the motions and trying to do little more than replicate the same beats as the first. It does that with less violence, barely killing anyone. All the principal cast stays safe, and when you combine that with the sentimental crap of the divorced couple and their boy it feels excessively like a family movie. Was released in the unfortunate early 2000s period of heavy yet-to-mature computer graphics, with dinosaurs looking worse than ever. Doesn't know how to build suspense, never excites. The parents tried for weeks to get the Costa Rican government and their local politicians to help them and then Saddler brings the US military in with a few phone calls. Okay. So they weren't in that much danger after all.

Can't understand how no one who looked at that script didn't point out how weird it is for the characters to be happy about the flying dinosaurs migrating, after what they experienced in their giant bird cage. Movie implies the flying dinosaurs have been in that cage for seven years when it shows the characters leave the gate open. Never mind where their food supply inside came from; did they not remember the dinosaurs flying freely at the end of The Lost World?

The movie doesn't adequately explore the themes central to Jurassic Park, playing God with genetic engineering, corporate greed… But what more can they say that the first movie didn't already? The Lost World struggled with that too, including the book, as I recall from a lifetime ago. If you as the studio CEO only care about the money, have at it. But the quality will diminish as you keep trying to milk an IP not really ripe for franchising like this, and when you do try to explore those themes again it will just end up dumber and more pointless because what was meant to be said has already been said.

I never liked this movie. Even as a kid it bothered me. Watched it for the first time in many years two weeks ago, which will probably be the last. First two Jurassic Park movies are good. Didn't watch the World sequels, didn't care much for World. I upvoted that guy above for saying each is worse than the last, but thinking about all the problems of JP3 and the lifelessness of the script, World might be better. I never rewatched it, probably never will, so can't say for certain.

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Old 01-28-2023, 05:15 PM   #5089
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The Lost World is the best of the series and JPIII is pants.

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Old 01-28-2023, 11:35 PM   #5090
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Old 01-29-2023, 04:21 PM   #5091
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JP3 is really stupid, but I give it props for being a watchable movie despite an absolute shitshow of a production. At its worst, it's far better than any JW movie, FWIW.
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Old 01-29-2023, 05:16 PM   #5092
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[Show spoiler]JP3 commits one of the worst sins a sequel can of only going through the motions and trying to do little more than replicate the same beats as the first. It does that with less violence, barely killing anyone. All the principal cast stays safe, and when you combine that with the sentimental crap of the divorced couple and their boy it feels excessively like a family movie. Was released in the unfortunate early 2000s period of heavy yet-to-mature computer graphics, with dinosaurs looking worse than ever. Doesn't know how to build suspense, never excites. The parents tried for weeks to get the Costa Rican government and their local politicians to help them and then Saddler brings the US military in with a few phone calls. Okay. So they weren't in that much danger after all.

Can't understand how no one who looked at that script didn't point out how weird it is for the characters to be happy about the flying dinosaurs migrating, after what they experienced in their giant bird cage. Movie implies the flying dinosaurs have been in that cage for seven years when it shows the characters leave the gate open. Never mind where their food supply inside came from; did they not remember the dinosaurs flying freely at the end of The Lost World?

The movie doesn't adequately explore the themes central to Jurassic Park, playing God with genetic engineering, corporate greed… But what more can they say that the first movie didn't already? The Lost World struggled with that too, including the book, as I recall from a lifetime ago. If you as the studio CEO only care about the money, have at it. But the quality will diminish as you keep trying to milk an IP not really ripe for franchising like this, and when you do try to explore those themes again it will just end up dumber and more pointless because what was meant to be said has already been said.

I never liked this movie. Even as a kid it bothered me. Watched it for the first time in many years two weeks ago, which will probably be the last. First two Jurassic Park movies are good. Didn't watch the World sequels, didn't care much for World. I upvoted that guy above for saying each is worse than the last, but thinking about all the problems of JP3 and the lifelessness of the script, World might be better. I never rewatched it, probably never will, so can't say for certain.
You should look into the script process for JP3. They scrapped the script just six weeks before shooting and started new without moving the start date. It was a total mess and the movie just abruptly ends because they didn't complete the script and chose not to shoot it. It really explains how how those issues came about. They were originally going to have the military and Spinosaurus go at it as part of the climax.
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Old 02-19-2023, 05:18 PM   #5093
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I watched a 35mm projection of the first film and from the 3 releases on capsaholic, the 4K is the closest. The 3D is way too warm (I know some people have insisted in the past that that this is closer to how the film looked originally, but as far as I am concerned that is not the case), while the print I saw mostly looked natural, no strong color push. The old blu-ray is a bit too anemic from what I see, some shots are too light. The UHD is a bit better in that respect so I would consider it the closest of the three, from what I've seen.

There is a 35mm print scan you can find online and that looks perhaps the closest, though it's a bit punchier (blown out whites, black crush, etc.) than what I saw projected.
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Old 02-19-2023, 05:34 PM   #5094
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I liked them ALL!

First one is the best though.
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Old 02-19-2023, 07:47 PM   #5095
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JP3 commits one of the worst sins a sequel can of only going through the motions and trying to do little more than replicate the same beats as the first.
This describes how I feel about Jurassic World.
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I watched a 35mm projection of the first film and from the 3 releases on capsaholic, the 4K is the closest. The 3D is way too warm (I know some people have insisted in the past that that this is closer to how the film looked originally, but as far as I am concerned that is not the case), while the print I saw mostly looked natural, no strong color push. The old blu-ray is a bit too anemic from what I see, some shots are too light. The UHD is a bit better in that respect so I would consider it the closest of the three, from what I've seen.

There is a 35mm print scan you can find online and that looks perhaps the closest, though it's a bit punchier (blown out whites, black crush, etc.) than what I saw projected.
The original prints for Jurassic Park were very inconsistent although most of the ones I saw/handled had a noticeable gold/yellow push. The 3D master used prints as reference but it appears more orange instead of yellow like the prints did. The old Blu-ray doesn't look like it used a valid color reference and the UHD looks like it used that Blu-ray as its color reference for grading, magenta and all.
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I watched a 35mm projection of the first film and from the 3 releases on capsaholic, the 4K is the closest. The 3D is way too warm (I know some people have insisted in the past that that this is closer to how the film looked originally, but as far as I am concerned that is not the case), while the print I saw mostly looked natural, no strong color push. The old blu-ray is a bit too anemic from what I see, some shots are too light. The UHD is a bit better in that respect so I would consider it the closest of the three, from what I've seen.

There is a 35mm print scan you can find online and that looks perhaps the closest, though it's a bit punchier (blown out whites, black crush, etc.) than what I saw projected.
I've always preferred the look of the 3D transfer tbh... idk why it just seems more nostalgic and maybe matched the colors on the VHS back in the day? There's just something about it.

I wish it could just play the damn disc in 2D on my OLED lol my 3DTV died years ago it's infuriating to see all these 3D transfers (Titanic also comes to mind) that are rendered unplayable nowadays.
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There is a 35mm print scan you can find online and that looks perhaps the closest, though it's a bit punchier (blown out whites, black crush, etc.) than what I saw projected.
The version currently out there is an old scan. It doesn't look all that much like the actual 35mm. Colors are too faded and not really correct otherwise either.

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The original prints for Jurassic Park were very inconsistent
That is what I have read elsewhere.

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although most of the ones I saw/handled had a noticeable gold/yellow push. The 3D master used prints as reference but it appears more orange instead of yellow like the prints did. The old Blu-ray doesn't look like it used a valid color reference and the UHD looks like it used that Blu-ray as its color reference for grading, magenta and all.
Yeah on some, maybe most, 35mm prints, there is definitely a yellow push to the greens, the trees and grass are not a rich green green but often somewhat more of a straw green.

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I've always preferred the look of the 3D transfer tbh... idk why it just seems more nostalgic and maybe matched the colors on the VHS back in the day? There's just something about it.

I wish it could just play the damn disc in 2D on my OLED lol my 3DTV died years ago it's infuriating to see all these 3D transfers (Titanic also comes to mind) that are rendered unplayable nowadays.
you can play 3D blu-rays as 2D

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you can play 3D blu-rays as 2D
Connected to a 3DTV it might give you the option but on the vast majority of players if you put in a 3D disc connected to a 2DTV it just won't work, that was why I had too rip the discs to an .mkv file and play the left eye stream from my Kodi box.
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