The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[KilloWertz]

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

Watched all three films today back-to-back-to-back. It's been a lifelong dream. And the more I watch TDKR, the more these supposed "plot holes" work themselves out. There is one I can't get past:

[Show spoiler]When the countdown for the money transfer starts, there is 8 minutes left, and super daylight outside. But by the time Batman picks up the wireless device containing the countdown having just finished, it's completely night time.

I think what's really going on with some of these complainers is that instead of like in the past when someone created a masterpiece similar to TDK and at best could only match the awesomeness of the previous movie, we would praise them. Now, unless that awesomeness is surpassed, we can do no such thing. It's kind of pathetic that even disregarding that, there are some people who make their minds up about a movie before even seeing it and will find anything with which to trash it. It's pathetic. I love this movie and this series.

/rant

Another +1

I know people will say I'm nuts, but I liked this basically just as much as The Dark Knight. Some of it would have to do with a better overall cast. Not going to touch Heath Ledger vs. Tom Hardy as the villains, but still, I'm sure you get my point. The cast for this from top to bottom was ridiculous (in a good way obviously).

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by Geolink

Why do I feel like the extras on DKR are extremely lacking?

Because Nolan prefers it that way.

[moviecriticsonline]

Originally Posted by Geolink

Why do I feel like the extras on DKR are extremely lacking?

So you can purchase the Ultimate Edition next year.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by TheMan

Because Nolan prefers it that way.

I don't think it has anything to do with Nolan. This is Warner we are talking about, the most notorious re-releasers and re-packagers in the home video business. Just look how many times they've released the LOTR films:

Lord of the Rings, The: 3-Film Collection (Theatrical Cuts)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Fellowship of the Ring (Extended Edition)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Fellowship of the Ring (Theatrical Cut)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Fellowship of the Ring (Theatrical Cut - Target Exclusive)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Editions)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Editions - Best Buy Exclusive)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Theatrical Cuts)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Theatrical Cuts - Best Buy Exclusive Steelbook)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Theatrical Cuts - Best Buy Exclusive with Sword)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Return of the King (Extended Edition)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Return of the King (Theatrical Cut)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Return of the King (Theatrical Cut - Target Exclusive)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Two Towers (Extended Edition)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Two Towers (Theatrical Cut)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Two Towers (Theatrical Cut - Target Exclusive)

[SethRex]

What were the target exclusive theatrical cuts?

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I don't think it has anything to do with Nolan. This is Warner we are talking about, the most notorious re-releasers and re-packagers in the home video business. Just look how many times they've released the LOTR films:

[Show spoiler]
Lord of the Rings, The: 3-Film Collection (Theatrical Cuts)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Fellowship of the Ring (Extended Edition)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Fellowship of the Ring (Theatrical Cut)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Fellowship of the Ring (Theatrical Cut - Target Exclusive)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Editions)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Editions - Best Buy Exclusive)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Theatrical Cuts)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Theatrical Cuts - Best Buy Exclusive Steelbook)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Theatrical Cuts - Best Buy Exclusive with Sword)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Return of the King (Extended Edition)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Return of the King (Theatrical Cut)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Return of the King (Theatrical Cut - Target Exclusive)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Two Towers (Extended Edition)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Two Towers (Theatrical Cut)
Lord of the Rings, The: The Two Towers (Theatrical Cut - Target Exclusive)

Yeah that's probably a big part of it too but I thought Nolan mentioned that his films should "speak for themselves" and that he prefers to maintain the illusion, so to speak.

[beware]

Was going to finally pop it in to watch on bluray for the first time tonight but all of a sudden I am getting tired and know I will nod off probably about an hour into it. So tomorrow (later today) I will watch the special features first (never did that before) during the day and the feature presentation at night. Making it a Dark Knight Sunday

As you can tell, not a big football fan and my Sunday show The Walking Dead isn't on for a few months...

[davcole]

Originally Posted by Joshjp

The audio was good, but there was like a hissing sound coming from the rear speakers, anybody else hear it?.

I noticed particularly scenes with the Bat!

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[beware]

Originally Posted by TheMan

Yeah that's probably a big part of it too but I thought Nolan mentioned that his films should "speak for themselves" and that he prefers to maintain the illusion, so to speak.

I heard that too, so I am thinking that trilogy set out next year will just be the same versions we have now in really nice packaging. I highly doubt there will be extensive special features...

[EversorAnimus]

I think they should wait until 2015 and release the ultimate edition trilogy. It would be an awesome way to celebrate the 10th anniversary of Batman Begins.

[MercsOwnz]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Watch out that the "moral police" don't get after you! If selling is profiteering, that makes you a ... a thief!

That poster will be on my wall forever

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

There is one I can't get past:

[Show spoiler]When the countdown for the money transfer starts, there is 8 minutes left, and super daylight outside. But by the time Batman picks up the wireless device containing the countdown having just finished, it's completely night time.

If you watch closely, the sun is starting to set at the beginning of the sequence before they even enter the bank. As the sequence goes on, the sun continues to set and even when Batman gives chase, it's not completely dark, but merely dusk.

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by BLeClair12

Finally got my steelbook from Best Buy today. Packaging was pretty beat up, but the steelbook was in absolute perfect condition after thorough inspection.

Yeah those plastic bags are awful but steelbooks stand up to alot.

[kristoffer]

Just saw this last night. I have hard time imagine that the Ultimate Edition that is coming will look any better. It looked much better than the botched TDK.
If Begins and TDK doesn't have new better transfers I am not interested.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by mlittle3

It's easily the best blockbuster trilogy ever. More consistent than Star Wars, better written than Lord of the Rings, and much more involving than Bourne. The only superhero films (aside from Watchmen) with any substance at all. Anyone who thinks Avengers, Spider-man or Superman movies have anything important to say is kidding themselves. And I like Spider-man and Iron Man and even Captain America. But even the good superhero movies are pure fluff. Kid's stuff. Nolan's Batman films are a cut above all that crap.

I can buy into the Nolan batman films being the best of the superhero bunch, even though its far from perfect. I can maybe even be talked into this batman series being more consistent than Star Wars but it will never be as big or as long lived as Star Wars. Also, Star Wars came out over the course a much longer time frame which Nolan didn't have to deal with. That does add to the inconsistency of Star Wars. Better writing than LOTR though? Not too sure about that. I couldn't care less about Bourne crap, those are lame.

As for saying something important, Im not so sure about that either.

Finally watched TDKR last night. Technically, the video and sound quality were reference for the most part. The audio was even too much at times! I like the mixed aspect ratio too and I applaud Nolan for using it. Overall the film was only OK though. I'm setting myself up for vicious attacks from the fanboys but I don't mind.

Bain didn't work for me. Kind of meh. He's a Darth Vader wannabe who talks like an English literature professor. He was just a basic bad guy. Why didn't someone just shoot him? I suppose that question can be asked regarding lots of these types of films but the whole thing didn't work. Not an exciting, intriguing villain. Joker was 1,000 times more interesting and so was Ras from batman begins for that matter.

Salina Kyle felt tacked on. Just wasn't sure what her purpose was other than to shoehorn the character into the series. She should have been introduced in TDK in some way.

I didn't like the "Rocky 5 certified - you lost all your money conveniently" ploy either. What was that all about? I suppose they had to so they could tie in things with Marion Cotilards character. Or something.

This is the weakest of the series, IMO. The high ratings were destined to be as such. It was highly anticipated and was the final chapter of a strong series so some reviewers were on autopilot with this and just gave it a high rating. That's fine and it happens in Hollywood all the time. It felt a little too long, lacked the heart and soil of the first two films, and just wasn't as captivating as the other films in the series.

So, I'm slightly disappointed. It's an OK film but far from a great one. It's part of the series and I did like the ending scene a lot. That's all I got.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Actually, again, the Reborn doc is on all BB steelbooks and specially marked BB Trilogy sets. And, unfortunately, it isn't much because virtually every single piece of it is already available on the regular special features which came with each of the three movies. Special it ain't.

thanks for the clear up you guys
sucks though that it wasn't more

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Shanester

Bane's theme is absolutely epic!!!

I can't get that pounding beat out of my head!!

Kudos to Hans Zimmer and how he put those sounds together ("I told my musicians just play any note and bang your instruments!")

It's when of my all time favorites scores when it comes to action movies right up there with James Horner's brilliant work in Aliens

i love it as well. In fact i LOVE the scores for the whole trilogy truly epic work by Zimmer and James Newton Howard

[rickah88]

Well I did a 6hr marathon last night with the BB exclusive: film + all the extras! Man, what a treat! Any movie that can keep my wife awake for almost 3hrs, is doing something right!
As with superhero movies, you HAVE to suspend your belief a little and go in to it with an open mind. The IMAX visuals, obviously, were amazing! The sound, IMO, rivaled Transformers: DotM, for best in my collection...and the assortment of over 3 hrs of extras were excellent.
This BD should be in everyone's collection! Hands down!
I started watching at 8pm, last night, and finished after 2am...I think I went to bed still numb!
Nolan realy did a great job with, not only this film, but the entire trilogy!
If you have not seen this movie yet...or the previous two, do yourself a favor and, at the very least, rent them! Odds are you'll walk away amazed!

[V400]

I really enjoyed the Reborn doc. Having watched the supplements for BB & TDK when they were released (2005 & 2008), my memory was quite fuzzy concerning them so Reborn didn't feel like a rehash of older material. As for TDKR's supplements, I have yet to watch them except the Batmobile one, so it was like all new material for me.

[Whirlygig]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

I can buy into the Nolan batman films being the best of the superhero bunch, even though its far from perfect.

I agree almost 100% with your entire post and it's good to hear someone else say it all.

Originally Posted by s2mikey

I can maybe even be talked into this batman series being more consistent than Star Wars but it will never be as big or as long lived as Star Wars. Also, Star Wars came out over the course a much longer time frame which Nolan didn't have to deal with. That does add to the inconsistency of Star Wars. Better writing than LOTR though? Not too sure about that. I couldn't care less about Bourne crap, those are lame.

If he was talking about trilogies, which I think he was, then I assume he meant the Star Wars OT. Which to me is either exactly as consistent as Bat-Nolan, or perhaps moreso (and came out in less time than Nolan's).

Watching Bourne films is on my list of most boring things in the universe to do to entertain myself. I would rather play that game with the string and the ball and cup for 2-8 hours.

With all this trilogy talk, I have to wonder, where is the real best trilogy ever in the conversation? That of course being Back to the Future...and I'm only 1/4 joking.

Originally Posted by s2mikey

As for saying something important, Im not so sure about that either.

As a general rule, I feel like if both rabid republicans and rabid democrats can love a film, which, they can and do with Bat-Nolan, then it can't possibly be saying anything too important (unless maybe that is what it is saying ). I feel like there are enough interpretations of what these movies are "saying" that if they were trying to say anything they clearly should have been more specific.

I felt like TDK had the potential via Joker to be the most philosophical of all, and ended up feeling like it really dropped that ball. The dramatic contrasting of by-the-rules, no-killing Batman to purely-chaotic, randomly-murdering Joker could have been done so much better; Nolan kept it too low key and maybe gave Joker too much motivation & internal logic. I wanted more of Miller's Joker from The Dark Knight Returns, and was disappointed when we didn't get it.

For me the best Bat-Nolan is Batman Begins. It didn't re-invent Batman, it took its cues from the best of the comics -- but it put it all together so well on the screen that it finally showed the general film-going audience how much dramatic potential there has always been there. The next two had to expand upon that and really show what more could be done, and unfortunately I feel both came up short. I do still like them though, they could have been a lot worse.