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Old 03-05-2018, 01:44 PM   #521
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UK announcement coming on March 11th for these it seems. Zoom.co.uk (owned by Universal) will be treating us to some 4K Steelbooks too. Looks like we’ll be getting single releases over here.





Well that settles it. Im ordering from the UK.
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UK announcement coming on March 11th for these it seems. Zoom.co.uk (owned by Universal) will be treating us to some 4K Steelbooks too. Looks like we’ll be getting single releases over here.

Good news but only issue is JW3, doubt the steelbook will match the others.
So may just get amray and wait for jw3 steelbook collection.
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Old 03-05-2018, 03:18 PM   #523
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Meh. I don't want no steels, I don't want no scratch-magnet digibook, just all four movies in regular amarays.
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Old 03-05-2018, 03:27 PM   #524
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Why why why would they release a 4 movie set, and not just do a trilogy for the first 3, and a standalone 4k for jurassic world? Seems silly.

I mean from the outside of the package, it's nice and seems to indicate its just a anniversary edition. But the inside having the sleeves for each movie just stinks. I will wait for individual releases. I currently have the 3D combos of Jurassic Park and Jurassic World with slips so I'll stick with them for a while.
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Digibooks give me night terrors. My favourite boxset just for packaging is the Bourne’s.
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Old 03-05-2018, 03:29 PM   #526
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Why why why would they release a 4 movie set, and not just do a trilogy for the first 3, and a standalone 4k for jurassic world?
That would give you the option of buying fewer than all of them and giving them less money.
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Old 03-05-2018, 04:17 PM   #527
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Fantastic news!

Hopefully JP1 will be framed correctly this time.

The 2D and 3D BD's are really cropped.
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Old 03-05-2018, 04:47 PM   #528
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I've got the 4 disc Blu-Ray steelbook pre-ordered from Amazon IT and the 4K collection from Best Buy just so I could have the steel so I'll have to see what they do for this. Do they ship to the U.S.?
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Old 03-05-2018, 05:10 PM   #529
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I've got the 4 disc Blu-Ray steelbook pre-ordered from Amazon IT and the 4K collection from Best Buy just so I could have the steel so I'll have to see what they do for this. Do they ship to the U.S.?
Zoom don’t unfortunately. They only ship to UK and Europe.
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Old 03-05-2018, 05:42 PM   #530
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Riddhi...regarding your 'life sized dinosaurs' comment, when I saw Transformers 2 on 15/70 at the BFI IMAX they were actually advertising it as having life-size Transformers on-screen - not that I caught any major benefit of it because I could only get a seat near the front right corner and from that angle it was a bewildering mess (c'est la Michael Bay).
That's not the ideal seat. The ideal seat is in the middle, centre row. The film would be composed keeping a centre crop in mind.

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To that end I'd pay cash money to see a proper 1.44 IMAX Jurassic Park movie on 15/70, but at the same time I'd be a bit wary of any home version because the last thing I'd want to be doing is watching the splendour of IMAX in a 1.44 windowboxed presentation on a 16:9 TV.
If I am making an IMAX 15/70mm film, I'd keep the 1.78:1 crop in mind for sure. Just like Nolan does. In some scenes I'd actually have the dinosaurs almost touch the head of the screen. Why? Because in real life, if a man was standing below a dinosaur and looking up, he still won't be able to take-in the whole animal.

So, the framing will not only be done as per the IMAX principle, but also as per realistic vision based on distance of the character from the object. So, for those shots you're not SUPPOSED to see the whole dinosaurs, even though it is there fully inside the frame.

The widescreen version would be thus an obvious crop, to emphasize the large size of the animal that the frame cannot hold. However, I'd include the IMAX 1.43:1 scenes on the Blu-ray separately, as a bonus feature (like deleted scenes).

Plus, a Jurassic Park film is not just a celebration of dinosaurs, it is a celebration of nature; of raw natural beauty. Remember the journey to the island in JP1 and JP3? They would look spectacular if opened up to 1.43:1. Plus the helicopter landing with the waterfall behind it. There are many beautiful jungle shots that'd look spectacularly immersive in the 1.43:1 aspect ratio.
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Old 03-05-2018, 05:48 PM   #531
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I'm sure I'm in the vast minority but I've always had a soft spot for JP3. It seems to be my go to when I need a Jurassic fix. It's quick paced and has good cgi. The first is my fav but I watch it maybe once a year.
No man! There are many, including me, who love JP3. ACtually I was absolutely saddened when the filmmakers and the Dinosaur Protection Group said they have confirmation that Isla Sorna is now empty and its dinosaurs have all died. The T-Rex family from JP2 is dead, the Spinosaur from JP3 is dead. I looked at it as a big slap in the face of JP2 and JP3 fans. As if they wanted to say - "Only JP1 fans matter, rest can duck off!"
I didn't like this attitude at all. Sorna is the biggest dinosaur island. They couldn't possibly have emptied it in its entirety. It's impossible and improbable.
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That's not the ideal seat. The ideal seat is in the middle, centre row. The film would be composed keeping a centre crop in mind.
D'you think I don't know that now? I've been to the BFI IMAX 20 times to see various features (true 15/70 shows, 15/70 blow-ups, straight 2K digital projections) and I learned my lesson that day, lemme tell ya.

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If I am making an IMAX 15/70mm film, I'd keep the 1.78:1 crop in mind for sure. Just like Nolan does. In some scenes I'd actually have the dinosaurs almost touch the head of the screen. Why? Because in real life, if a man was standing below a dinosaur and looking up, he still won't be able to take-in the whole animal.

So, the framing will not only be done as per the IMAX principle, but also as per realistic vision based on distance of the character from the object. So, for those shots you're not SUPPOSED to see the whole dinosaurs, even though it is there fully inside the frame.

The widescreen version would be thus an obvious crop, to emphasize the large size of the animal that the frame cannot hold. However, I'd include the IMAX 1.43:1 scenes on the Blu-ray separately, as a bonus feature (like deleted scenes).

Plus, a Jurassic Park film is not just a celebration of dinosaurs, it is a celebration of nature; of raw natural beauty. Remember the journey to the island in JP1 and JP3? They would look spectacular if opened up to 1.43:1. Plus the helicopter landing with the waterfall behind it. There are many beautiful jungle shots that'd look spectacularly immersive in the 1.43:1 aspect ratio.
But how many people would ultimately SEE it in that ratio? If filmmakers are keeping the 'scope extraction in mind - Nolan frames up for the full 2.40/2.20 crop, not just 1.78 - then so much of it is dead air. Sure, it's incredible on that size screen, i.e. what it's meant for, but the full height is mostly useless outside of that environment, looking like some janky open matte version rather than an incredibly immersive "celebration" of whatever it's supposed to be celebrating.
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Sorna is the biggest dinosaur island. They couldn't possibly have emptied it in its entirety. It's impossible and improbable.
Not really impossible. Dinosaurs went extinct once, it could easily happen again. All it takes is one tiny meteor.


Sorry, I had to go there.


On a serious note though I'd certainly prefer going back to Sorna in future Jurassic World instalments rather than going off the islands completely.
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Zoom don’t unfortunately. They only ship to UK and Europe.
Damn, well it looks like I'll be keeping those other pre-orders then. Thanks!
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D'you think I don't know that now? I've been to the BFI IMAX 20 times to see various features (true 15/70 shows, 15/70 blow-ups, straight 2K digital projections) and I learned my lesson that day, lemme tell ya.
I have seen Avatar four times on 15/70. Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince once. The Dark Knight Rises once. Mysteries of the Maya and National Parks Adventure. All on IMAX 1.43:1 film projection. I was kinda lucky to get the best seats at all times. Except 'Rises' where I sat quite high up. See ?


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But how many people would ultimately SEE it in that ratio? If filmmakers are keeping the 'scope extraction in mind - Nolan frames up for the full 2.40/2.20 crop, not just 1.78 - then so much of it is dead air. Sure, it's incredible on that size screen, i.e. what it's meant for, but the full height is mostly useless outside of that environment, looking like some janky open matte version rather than an incredibly immersive "celebration" of whatever it's supposed to be celebrating.
No, no. There wouldn't be any scope extraction from the 1.43:1. The 35mm print would be 1.85:1. The IMAX digital would be about the same and the wide release will be maximum 2.00:1, to take advantage of most scope screens across the planet. But nothing smaller than that. I personally dislike the letterbox cinemascope shape because almost all films today use that ratio. I love watching flat AR films because they are so refreshing to watch among the swarms of scope films. Also, our field of vision is closer to the golden geometric ratio (approximately 1.61), not cinemascope.

For me, the true framing would be 1.66:1, with 1.43:1 having more height. The 2.00:1 will be the tightest version, focussing mostly on the characters and action within the frame. The wide vistas and tall landscapes, dinosaurs, would be available only on IMAX. The IMAX version because of its height, will be the grandest version. The 2.00:1 would be the tightest and most claustrophobic and scary version (dinos would be closer to the screen), like the 3D framing of JP1, where they cropped too tightly.

As I posted a few pages ago, this is how JP would look if framed in 1.66:1 and projected on a 1.43:1 screen-

JP IMAX 1-66-1 projection simulation.jpg

I'll at least watch 10 IMAX shows if they make a JP movie in true 15-perf IMAX, even partially.

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On a serious note though I'd certainly prefer going back to Sorna in future Jurassic World instalments rather than going off the islands completely.
Then let Colin Trevorrow, Emily Carmichael, Frank Marshall and the Dinosaur Protection Group know your thoughts via Tweeter. It only works if fans desperately want it. I have been fighting alone on social media about this issue. I could do with a few more active Sorna fans. Please help guys! Let the filmmakers know you want to see Sorna in JW3, since it's going to be the last one; at least for some long time now.

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I'll at least watch 10 IMAX shows if they make a JP movie in true 15-perf IMAX, even partially.
If ever there was a commercial feature series tailor-made for 15-perf IMAX, Jurassic Park is it.
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for me it would be amazing trip again (and sorry for Off topic...)

I was lucky to have a trip to landing site of Jurassic Park / Jurassic Falls

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I'm hyped for Jurassic Park 1 and the new one. 2 and 3.. not so much. The current blu-ray of Jurassic Park is inadequate. It looked ok when it came out and I watched it on a 40" tv. Tried to watch it last night upscaled to 4k and the disc just doesn't hold up. VC-1,DNR and weird sharpening makes for a bad picture.

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I'm hyped for Jurassic Park 1 and the new one. 2 and 3.. not so much. The current blu-ray of Jurassic Park is inadequate. It looked ok when it came out and I watched it on a 40" tv. Tried to watch it last night upscaled to 4k and the disc just doesn't hold up. VC-1,DNR and weird sharpening makes for a bad picture.
An old master makes for a bad picture, those are “plus”.

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