Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[Geoff D]

Isn't the shot of Rexy where's she's eating the goat, so the camera is moving in that shot?

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Isn't the shot of Rexy where's she's eating the goat, so the camera is moving in that shot?

Yes, the shot is tilting up in both the Laserdisc and the 4K UHD, but in the LD, the frame tilts up to the point just under the sprinkler and doesn't move further up to expose the object. In the 4K UHD, however, since the image is already framed higher up the 4-perf frame, it exposes the sprinkler.

[Geoff D]

And the sprinkler is seen for how long?

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And the sprinkler is seen for how long?

Half a second. The lightning strike brightens it up.

[Geoff D]

Wow. Half a second. I think I can live with it

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Wow. Half a second. I think I can live with it

Of course, but, the Laserdisc handles the framing better in this particular case.

[Ben_UK]

Don’t question this 4K, it’s beyond criticism.

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by Ben_UK

This deserves a recall. Prepare the petitions

It needs a new master altogether!

[Riddhi2011]

JP and JP3 definitely need a new scan/remaster, but there is actually a reason behind that Laura Dern shot looking cropped compared to the Laserdisc counterpart. However, the final execution of that crop is flawed on the home video versions.



Notice the object inside the black circle I made? That's a boom mic attached to the roof to record dialogue. A boom mic is not supposed to be visible inside the action-safe area. So, it is masked in the final product.


Normally, we should get a frame like the one below, on home video, in the 1.85:1 ratio -




But for some unknown reason, they decided to not just remove the mic at the top, but also zoom-in the frame further, making the image much tighter than it should be, even if we include the projection lens aperture crop.

4K UHD -



Cropping out filming equipment is a must, but that does not explain why those mics are still clearly visible in one shot on all the post-laserdisc home video editions:

4K UHD -

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Wow. Half a second. I think I can live with it

Half a second is like three weeks! Wait.....wrong 'berg

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

But for some unknown reason, they decided to not just remove the mic at the top, but also zoom-in the frame further, making the image much tighter than it should be, even if we include the projection lens aperture crop.

Take a look at Rain Man. Same thing.

[d3nt0n]

Originally Posted by Ben_UK

This deserves a recall. Prepare the petitions

I know this is a joke, but imagine the sh*t storm that would be with how many times this disc has been re-issued. I feel like it's gotten a new edition at least once every year.

[Spooked]

Originally Posted by d3nt0n

I feel like it's gotten a new edition at least once every year.

That's the problem. It hasn't. They just keep repackaging the same transfer.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

I'd be curious to see if there are any other framing discrepancies in a similar fashion. I must admit that I've never felt the Blu-rays or UHD were misframed and this is a film I've seen on 35mm many times and compared with home video releases. The UHD just having less image area on all four sides compared to past home video releases is not a cause for concern as older masters would usually show more image area than what was intended to be shown.

Regardless, this finally needs to get a proper remaster and release, and they need to use a valid reference print instead of an old telecine. Spielberg doesn't seem to have much interest in properly remastering this film like he does with a lot of his other films. He had some involvement in the 3D remaster but I've not heard of him being involved on any other releases.

[Riddhi2011]

I think Spielberg had nothing to do with the release of the 4K UHDs. After the extreme (and somewhat unfair) blowback of the E.T: Special Edition release, Spielberg, at least publicly, seemed to have become anti-correction. I remember in one of the interviews, he spoke of the wires attached to the miniature planes in War of the Worlds (1953), or something and he found it fascinating, not distracting. He has said many a times that film's are snapshots of their time and should be preserved warts and all.

Then came Jurassic Park 3D, (which he supervised/approved) which had all of the wires, studio lights, potted plants, fake jungle canopy netting, etc., removed. I can understand that it was possibly done to make the rotoscoping for 3D easier. Also, an entirely new lightning flash was added to a shot after Denis Nedry presses the "Execute" button on his computer.

To be clear, I loved ALL of these new corrections/additions, as I feel they enhanced the immersive experience of the film.

But, overall, Spielberg does not seem to be someone who is very eager to retroactively alter his films. This is understandable as he is looking at films from the perspective of the craft as well, while the audience mostly seeks escapist thrills. This makes the decision to crop out the boom mics or alter the framing headroom, more surprising. Given that JP1 was centre-framed, the audiences who saw the movie on 35mm would have definitely seen the booms, but perhaps not noticed.

By the way, if the home video team had also decided to zoom out the boom mic in the shot of the first car,
then it would have looked something like the mockup below -




as opposed to the current home video framing shared below -



Personally speaking, I would love to see a version which digitally erases the boom mics from all of the shots and also incorporates the corrections made during the 3D conversion, without cropping/zooming into the frame so much.

Finally, it's high time the colour was corrected to a reference print, as JohnCarpenterFan said above.

[SpazeBlue]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

Spielberg, at least publicly, seemed to have become anti-correction... He has said many a times that film's are snapshots of their time and should be preserved warts and all.

But, overall, Spielberg does not seem to be someone who is very eager to retroactively alter his films.

[Socko]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Wow. Half a second. I think I can live with it

No! We demand a replacement disc!

[Amiibro121]

I wonder how the 4ks for the park trilogy would've turned out if they didn't rush them to release before the second jurassic world movie hit theaters. It seems some 4ks don't get the better treatment they deserved likely because of strict deadlines (mostly films with anniversaries and new movie tie ins)

[lgans316]

Parts 1 and 2 have variable picture quality.

Part 3 is pants but maybe bit better than the BD.

Even the bottom end sounded less aggressive on the DTS-X mixes as opposed to the DTS-HD MA on THE BD.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Part 3 is pants...

Pants???