The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[kashif]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Fans deter you from enjoying a director's work you like? Why?

Originally Posted by 42041

No? What if it's so entertaining that it deserves to win Best Picture
Why does it bother people that sometimes other people like something much more than they do

Originally Posted by Fallglimmer

Why does it matter? If people think he is on that level why does it matter so much to you? I personally don't have my "important" directors and my "entertainment" directors...if I think they do good work they all go into the same place. I don't have a switch in my head that I turn off or on when I go from watching The Dark Knight to watching Last Year at Marionbad. All movies I love go to the exact some place in my head, I don't buy the whole "well, you can like it as long as you know it isn't great". No, if I think it's great I think it's great. Period. I have my problems with The Dark Knight Rises even, it isn't my favorite or even in my top 5 for the year...but raging on people who might feel that way or assuming they are somehow less knowledgeable about film is just stupid.

Plus hating a director's work because of his or her fans is silly, I'm fairly positive on Darron Aronofsky but don't find any of his films to be exceptional. While the people constantly trying to convince me he is incredible might be mildly annoying it doesn't change my opinion any or shift my mild positive opinion to hate.

Originally Posted by Blu-Malibu2009

You are just as irrational as his most irrational fans. The man has no control over how those other people behave, yet you choose to project their behavior onto him and hate him for it. That's irrational.

I think I am not expressing myself clearly since I am not good in English but what I wanted to say is that yes Nolan makes good movies but he is not some kind of genius out there and not the best ever. He is good in making Action, Thriller movies and specially he is the only one I think who try to avoid CGI Crap as much as possible and thats why his action sequences looks very real and believable and I greatly admire him for that.

Even though I like TDK series but I believe in quality cinema more rather than commercial films. So when people say that Nolan is the best out there I say to them "No". He makes movies which are guaranteed to be successful. He knows what people want to see and offer them what they want and thats why he is successful.

Now talking about his fans, they flood imdb whenever there is a new Nolan movie. Same happened with "Inception" and they mange to get it on top over "The Godfather 2" which is a shame and sorry to say but mostly Nolan fans are not even aware or havent seen gems like The Godfather and even if they see I believe they will not like it because there are no car chases or action in them. There is a thing called quality cinema which sadly his fans are not aware of.

Now, before bashing me further please note I say mostly his fans so that dosent mean you are one of them. I am talking about those blind fans who just write every bad word from dictionary when you say even a little critical about Nolan at imdb.

I hope you guys got my point.

PS: Yes I used the wrong word "Hate". I dont hate Nolan. I just hate the way fans are projecting him. Like I said above my English is not good so I misinterpreted myself! Nolan still has to do a lot of work to reach in top directors list and he has the talent and potential to do so.

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Wow! That's really lame, man. If I watch a movie, I watch a movie. I don't sit there worrying about who else likes it or who wants to sleep with the director ...
They have meds for that sort of thing. Get some before it's too late.

Originally Posted by Irrob

I'm afraid the point you're trying to make gets lost in the excessive passion you display. Can you try again please?

See this is what I am talking about

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by poke smot

people complaining about the lack of spoiler tags need to get over it and not read the forum. see the movie already! oh yeah: ET comes back to life, jaws blows up at the end, Deckard may or may not be a replicant, and darth vader is luke's father.

Oh, please! Nobody's asking for some major effort, man. Maybe you should take that up with the folks who run the site. I'm sure they'd be very receptive to your smooth repartee and delete all spoiler tags immediately. Keep smokin', must be good stuff.

Originally Posted by s2mikey

You grammar guys remind me of Rodney Dangerfield's comment about sending his English teacher a love letter that she ended up correcting. It made me laugh - thanks for that.

Don't think I've seen that. It would crack me up. Hope you noticed my EDIT addendum.

Originally Posted by kashif

I think I am not expressing myself clearly since I am not good in English ...

Point taken, brother. You speak/write English better than I could speak/write your lingo.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

I dunno - the Thread title says "review", nothing about reviewing the technical aspects. You could say thats a tad confusing. But, OK. I get the whole Movie subforum idea but I bet thats got lots of talk about video and audio quality in there. Its hard to keep them separate with so many posts and such. I still think its up to the user to decide if they want to venture into a thread about a movie they havent seen, irregardless of what the threads content is *supposed* to be. Things always get off a little bit. Its not hard to use spoiler tags but sometimes we forget or dont feel what we are saying is an actual spoiler. Its not like this film is a "Who shot JR" or "Who killed Laura Palmer" type of thing. Not quite that much of a mystery.

People can go into the movie forum and discuss technical details and it won't ruin any surprises. Big difference.
As I said, there is no rule saying one has to use spoiler tags...it's just a considerate thing to do. Obviously the world will always have inconsiderate people, not much I can do about that...short of what I've been doing: Politely asking people to use them.
That's why the option exists.

Also, "irregardless" is not a word. For your future reference.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by poke smot

people complaining about the lack of spoiler tags need to get over it and not read the forum. see the movie already! oh yeah: ET comes back to life, jaws blows up at the end, Deckard may or may not be a replicant, and darth vader is luke's father.

Again, see my post above about inconsiderate people. Being inconsiderate usually starts at an early age, and if left unchecked will continue through life.
I'm sure you know that already...or, at least, people around you do.

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

Thankyou - someone gets it.

Does anyone rememeber who shot JR Ewing?

JR Ewing's been shot?!

WT-?!

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Again, see my post above about inconsiderate people. Being inconsiderate usually starts at an early age, and if left unchecked will continue through life.
I'm sure you know that already...or, at least, people around you do.

Ouch! So cold, dude ... so cold.

[Uxi]

Can't ... can't we all just get along?

Seems a bit late to expect spoiler tags from Rises.

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by Uxi

Can't ... can't we all just get along?

Seems a bit late to expect spoiler tags from Rises.

Other forums established that they don't expect tags after the Blu-ray/DVD release. (It's out everywhere and who hasn't seen it, see it)

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

Other forums established that they don't expect tags after the Blu-ray/DVD release. (It's out everywhere and who hasn't seen it, see it)

And they don't expect/enforce them here. As I said it's more a courtesy thing. Just like if you were watching this movie with family/friends, who have not seen it yet, you don't go announcing every scene, do you? No. It would be frowned upon.
Again, there is no rule requiring one to use spoiler tags...the option exists as a courtesy to those that have not seen said film.
The logic: "Well it's been out for some time, so you should've seen it" is flawed, at best.
Technically someone who gets advance screenings, could go on message boards(like this one) and ruin it for everyone!

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by rickah88

And they don't expect/enforce them here. As I said it's more a courtesy thing. Just like if you were watching this movie with family/friends, who have not seen it yet, you don't go announcing every scene, do you? No. It would be frowned upon.
Again, there is no rule requiring one to use spoiler tags...the option exists as a courtesy to those that have not seen said film.
The logic: "Well it's been out for some time, so you should've seen it" is flawed, at best.
Technically someone who gets advance screenings, could go on message boards(like this one) and ruin it for everyone!

I agree, but when exactly do we consider it right not to use spoiler tags? That's the question we all ask ourselves. I always use tags when talking about things in the movie. But people shouldn't get upset at someone for spoiling a movie in the Blu-ray discussion thread, they should be aware of the danger before entering if they haven't seen the movie yet.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

I agree, but when exactly do we consider it right not to use spoiler tags? That's the question we all ask ourselves. I always use tags when talking about things in the movie. But people shouldn't get upset at someone for spoiling a movie in the Blu-ray discussion thread, they should be aware of the danger before entering if they haven't seen the movie yet.

I always try to use spoiler tags, even if I'm talking about a movie from 50 years ago. That's just me. I don't believe the "statute of limitation" for spoiler tag use expires. If I forget to use them, I have actually gone back and applied them after having noticed, and will apologize if someone points it out. Obviously, this shows I care about how other people view these forums. Others just don't care. It's really that simple.
A leopard never changes it's spots.

What I think is very telling are the few that, not only DON'T use tags, but defend why they shouldn't have to use them! It's like belching loudly in a restaurant...there's no law saying you can't do it, but I'm quite certain it's frowned upon. But people that do those sorts of things usually just don't care.

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I always try to use spoiler tags, even if I'm talking about a movie from 50 years ago. That's just me. I don't believe the "statute of limitation" for spoiler tag use expires. If I forget to use them, I have actually gone back and applied them after having noticed, and will apologize if someone points it out. Obviously, this shows I care about how other people view these forums. Others just don't care. It's really that simple.
A leopard never changes it's spots.

What I think is very telling are the few that, not only DON'T use tags, but defend why they shouldn't have to use them! It's like belching loudly in a restaurant...there's no law saying you can't do it, but I'm quite certain it's frowned upon. But people that do those sorts of things usually just don't care.

I completely agree with you. It's a common courtesy but at this point ones who don't use tags shouldn't be called out and crucified for not using them.

[42041]

Originally Posted by Uxi

Can't ... can't we all just get along?

Seems a bit late to expect spoiler tags from Rises.

Why? Not everyone regularly goes to movie theaters or immediately runs out to buy something on video. Sometimes something will just hang around my Netflix queue for months, I regularly see movies that are 1-2 years old that I didn't get around to the first time.
Hell, even with old movies... there's constantly new people on earth, eventually they start exploring film, and have to see older films for the first time...
Why not just use spoiler tags for any plot details? It's not like it's difficult... juts highlight the text and hit the button....

[Early Memphis]

Again, I don't think anyone's asking for spoiler tags everywhere - only if you're revealing plot twists or surprises. Doesn't seem like that much to ask.

Originally Posted by 42041

Why? Not everyone regularly goes to movie theaters or immediately runs out to buy something on video. Sometimes something will just hang around my Netflix queue for months, I regularly see movies that are 1-2 years old that I didn't get around to the first time.
Why not just use spoiler tags for any plot details? It's not like it's difficult... juts highlight the text and hit the button....

Wow! I've been using copy & paste all this time! Thanks, dude, I didn't even know there was a button!

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I always try to use spoiler tags, even if I'm talking about a movie from 50 years ago. That's just me. I don't believe the "statute of limitation" for spoiler tag use expires. If I forget to use them, I have actually gone back and applied them after having noticed, and will apologize if someone points it out. Obviously, this shows I care about how other people view these forums. Others just don't care. It's really that simple.
A leopard never changes it's spots.

Originally Posted by 42041

Why? Not everyone regularly goes to movie theaters or immediately runs out to buy something on video. Sometimes something will just hang around my Netflix queue for months, I regularly see movies that are 1-2 years old that I didn't get around to the first time.
Why not just use spoiler tags for any plot details? It's not like it's difficult... juts highlight the text and hit the button....

Good points. Just out of simple courtesy, spoilers should be used when discussing part of the movie which will "spoil/ruin" the viewing experience for members who have not seen the film.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

I completely agree with you. It's a common courtesy but at this point ones who don't use tags shouldn't be called out and crucified for not using them.

Who is being "crucified"?

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Who is being "crucified"?

A little harsh of a term but you know what I mean.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

A little harsh of a term but you know what I mean.

It was your term!
I don't know what you mean, because I don't see who(on either side of the grear spoiler tag usage debate) is being overly harsh in their comments.

Either way, it is what it is. There are those that care, and will use them. There are those that don't care, and won't use them. And people will always complain about it.
Perhaps this is a deeper life study?

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Good points. Just out of simple courtesy, spoilers should be used when discussing part of the movie which will "spoil/ruin" the viewing experience for members who have not seen the film.

Agreed - OR as a simple courtesy, the thread titoles should include a warning about spoilers and therefore they've now armed the would be poor souls that might have the film spoiled for them some ammunition to avoid said spoilers.

Originally Posted by rickah88

People can go into the movie forum and discuss technical details and it won't ruin any surprises. Big difference.
As I said, there is no rule saying one has to use spoiler tags...it's just a considerate thing to do. Obviously the world will always have inconsiderate people, not much I can do about that...short of what I've been doing: Politely asking people to use them.
That's why the option exists.

Also, "irregardless" is not a word. For your future reference.

Says who? Irregardless of who thinks its not a word, I choose to use it. Beeotch isnt really a word but I use that all the time too.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

Says who? Irregardless of who thinks its not a word, I choose to use it. Beeotch isnt really a word but I use that all the time too.

I'm sure you do.