Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ut-commitment/

Sorry, few more posts before I leave lol.

I mentioned AT&T talking about highlight reels instead of full programmes on mobile a while back and my concern that short form content is about to take off and leave longer, richer storytelling in its wake. Read the above link and you will see this is cropping up in the UK also. Now apply this to film (matter of time) and you san see where this is heading. Yeah, sure guys. Digital is the future! Nice one.

Never mind quality tv, I doubt our film will survive the journey intact also. The industry are catering to the ‘I want it now’ generation at the expense of quality. It’s maddening and before anyone says anything, this is not in my head. This stuff is in plans of several tv companies.

[WestMan]

Originally Posted by alchav21

This guy is stuck in a Time Warp, I kept doing this when I bought Disc. I added selves, bought racks, and boxes in the Garage. You start feeling like a Hoarder, and it's especially noticeable when you move....boxes just keep adding up! With Digital HD it's so much easier to track and play anything you want. Now especially with all the Providers, you can play your Movies on any one of them, stop them and come back anytime. Digital HD is the only way to go!

If you have so many movies that you need boxes for all of them that is certainly a problem.

I still prefer discs and I have them all in a nice bookshelf. The bookshelf isn't even completely full. I only buy what I know what I will watch again in the future.

[Packerfan75]

Originally Posted by alchav21

This guy is stuck in a Time Warp, I kept doing this when I bought Disc. I added selves, bought racks, and boxes in the Garage. You start feeling like a Hoarder, and it's especially noticeable when you move....boxes just keep adding up! With Digital HD it's so much easier to track and play anything you want. Now especially with all the Providers, you can play your Movies on any one of them, stop them and come back anytime. Digital HD is the only way to go!

Would you like to come over and see my collection of 8 track tapes?

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

This guy is stuck in a Time Warp, I kept doing this when I bought Disc. I added selves, bought racks, and boxes in the Garage. You start feeling like a Hoarder, and it's especially noticeable when you move....boxes just keep adding up! With Digital HD it's so much easier to track and play anything you want. Now especially with all the Providers, you can play your Movies on any one of them, stop them and come back anytime. Digital HD is the only way to go!

Originally Posted by Packerfan75

Would you like to come over and see my collection of 8 track tapes?

I go back to 4 Track, 8 Track, VHS, and Cassettes but I only have Cassette Tapes left. I still have and make CD's for my Music, but Physical is on the way out Digital is just taking over. I also have Back-ups for DVD's and Blu-ray in Filing Cabinets.....No more, all Digital Now!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ut-commitment/

Sorry, few more posts before I leave lol.

I mentioned AT&T talking about highlight reels instead of full programmes on mobile a while back and my concern that short form content is about to take off and leave longer, richer storytelling in its wake. Read the above link and you will see this is cropping up in the UK also. Now apply this to film (matter of time) and you san see where this is heading. Yeah, sure guys. Digital is the future! Nice one.

Never mind quality tv, I doubt our film will survive the journey intact also. The industry are catering to the ‘I want it now’ generation at the expense of quality. It’s maddening and before anyone says anything, this is not in my head. This stuff is in plans of several tv companies.

Thought I would quote my own post like my mate Alchav!

Just been reading more about the BBC’s ideas and I can honestly see this taking off for mobile next gen. rather than having to watch a whole episode (perish the thought ) they can watch clips and static images to catch up before posting on Twitter or Facebook. They remain cool and a person you simply must like/follow and the BBC still get eyeballs. Everyone is a winner except us poor souls who enjoy great content and multilayered long form content. The more I read about reasearch and development by these big corporations in regard to internet provided tv and Digital technologies, the more I am convinced I am right and most of you guys are wrong. I don’t mean that to sound arrogant, I really don’t but I feel like th guy who is predicting the world is round and you lot are insisting it is flat.

The articles ties in to almost exactly what I have been dreading. The interactive stuff, the bastardised version of content, the hyperactive short clips becoming the most watched of all content. This is stuff that huge investment is going into. In the BBC’s case, as I understand it, they plan to move this forward on a huge scale and will be part of the move from terrestrial to IPTV. With something like 60 percent of 16-24 years olds watching content on mobile, it really does seem the industry sees this as the future and the mobile apocalypse is on its way.

The sky could be falling real soon guys and all the insults and gifs and tin foil hats comments won’t change the fact that I am right about a lot of this stuff.

Sometimes it’s hard to describe the way I’m thinking but finally I can use a term to describe it. That term is OBB. Research it and then look up the links to that technology and the BBC (huge broadcasting company in the UK) I was unaware of the term until last week but it describes all the stuff in my head that I have been talking about. Interactive, short form, mobile centric stuff etc.. it’s also close to being introduced I understand. Facebook live, BBC are two big big names who are working hard to make it happen as I understand it. Linear storytelling, films and tv are Under threat.

[Movie shy]

I prefer having physical copies as opposed to digital movies. Like others have stated, what if someday your movies vanish when that content is no longer available. I bought many singles and some albums off of ITunes years ago that I have not been able to get access to and so am leary about ever buying digital movie or tv shows. The exception for me is buying ebooks. Most of my digital books that I have bought from IBooks have all been on sale for 99 cents to 1.99 and due to some physical ailments find it easier to read books on my IPad. I still would be upset if I could not access them but many of them I bought and read after purchase. There is something about having physical media that I like. When I am having a bad day or get very anxious I just like to look at my movie collection and it calms me down.

[Rodney-2187]

Physical or digital? Both to be honest. For the movies I care most about, I will always want the best discs available, but I also like having the convenience of a digital collection, how easy it is to build your collection, and the early releases.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Thought I would quote my own post like my mate Alchav!

Just been reading more about the BBC’s ideas and I can honestly see this taking off for mobile next gen. rather than having to watch a whole episode (perish the thought ) they can watch clips and static images to catch up before posting on Twitter or Facebook. They remain cool and a person you simply must like/follow and the BBC still get eyeballs. Everyone is a winner except us poor souls who enjoy great content and multilayered long form content. The more I read about reasearch and development by these big corporations in regard to internet provided tv and Digital technologies, the more I am convinced I am right and most of you guys are wrong. I don’t mean that to sound arrogant, I really don’t but I feel like th guy who is predicting the world is round and you lot are insisting it is flat.

The articles ties in to almost exactly what I have been dreading. The interactive stuff, the bastardised version of content, the hyperactive short clips becoming the most watched of all content. This is stuff that huge investment is going into. In the BBC’s case, as I understand it, they plan to move this forward on a huge scale and will be part of the move from terrestrial to IPTV. With something like 60 percent of 16-24 years olds watching content on mobile, it really does seem the industry sees this as the future and the mobile apocalypse is on its way.

The sky could be falling real soon guys and all the insults and gifs and tin foil hats comments won’t change the fact that I am right about a lot of this stuff.

Sometimes it’s hard to describe the way I’m thinking but finally I can use a term to describe it. That term is OBB. Research it and then look up the links to that technology and the BBC (huge broadcasting company in the UK) I was unaware of the term until last week but it describes all the stuff in my head that I have been talking about. Interactive, short form, mobile centric stuff etc.. it’s also close to being introduced I understand. Facebook live, BBC are two big big names who are working hard to make it happen as I understand it. Linear storytelling, films and tv are Under threat.

Hopefully they keep that shit overseas, along with you and your paranoia

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Hopefully they keep that shit overseas, along with you and your paranoia

It really isn’t mate. Take time to read up on it. It is def not just overseas, they are collaborating with US media firms. It’s going to be in their iptv infastructure. I don’t think people realise how destructive this is to film/tv in general.

[Dunk the Lunk]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Thought I would quote my own post like my mate Alchav!

Just been reading more about the BBC’s ideas and I can honestly see this taking off for mobile next gen. rather than having to watch a whole episode (perish the thought ) they can watch clips and static images to catch up before posting on Twitter or Facebook. They remain cool and a person you simply must like/follow and the BBC still get eyeballs. Everyone is a winner except us poor souls who enjoy great content and multilayered long form content. The more I read about reasearch and development by these big corporations in regard to internet provided tv and Digital technologies, the more I am convinced I am right and most of you guys are wrong. I don’t mean that to sound arrogant, I really don’t but I feel like th guy who is predicting the world is round and you lot are insisting it is flat.

The articles ties in to almost exactly what I have been dreading. The interactive stuff, the bastardised version of content, the hyperactive short clips becoming the most watched of all content. This is stuff that huge investment is going into. In the BBC’s case, as I understand it, they plan to move this forward on a huge scale and will be part of the move from terrestrial to IPTV. With something like 60 percent of 16-24 years olds watching content on mobile, it really does seem the industry sees this as the future and the mobile apocalypse is on its way.

The sky could be falling real soon guys and all the insults and gifs and tin foil hats comments won’t change the fact that I am right about a lot of this stuff.

Sometimes it’s hard to describe the way I’m thinking but finally I can use a term to describe it. That term is OBB. Research it and then look up the links to that technology and the BBC (huge broadcasting company in the UK) I was unaware of the term until last week but it describes all the stuff in my head that I have been talking about. Interactive, short form, mobile centric stuff etc.. it’s also close to being introduced I understand. Facebook live, BBC are two big big names who are working hard to make it happen as I understand it. Linear storytelling, films and tv are Under threat.

Rather than Steedeel’s pessimism, here’s an (old) article from the BBC about OBB. It actually sounds quite interesting:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2013-05...o-broadcasting

Also, with the extreme success of programs such as GoT and other box set binge watching I seriously doubt that long form film and TV is on its way out.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Dunk the Lunk

Rather than Steedeel’s pessimism, here’s an (old) article from the BBC about OBB. It actually sounds quite interesting:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2013-05...o-broadcasting

Also, with the extreme success of programs such as GoT and other box set binge watching I seriously doubt that long form film and TV is on its way out.

What am I missing? how is this positive? Also that was w while back, it’s a more mobile centric world now.

[GaragePoet]

i'm surprised this topic is so heavily debated on this forum. are there sites dedicated to digital copy enthusiasts?

[Dunk the Lunk]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

What am I missing? how is this positive? Also that was w while back, it’s a more mobile centric world now.

1. Adaptation to suit the device or system - This is akin to responsive design and is perhaps the most obvious advantage. Someone viewing content on a mobile phone is likely to want a different version of the programme to someone viewing on a large screen. With the programme represented as objects the viewer could be given differently framed video, or a different audio mix to best suit their system.
2. Adaptation to suit the environment - For example in the presence of a lot of background noise the viewer might need the dialogue to be louder in the mix.
3. Adaptation to suit the person - It may be that one listener prefers a different mix between the foreground and background sound to another. Or perhaps a viewer of the news is very interested in a particular sports team. An object-based approach could allow a viewer to have the programme content tailored to their taste or mood.
4. Full interactivity - The concept of object-based media is not really new. Computer games have been doing this for some time. In order to interact with a computer game the whole experience has to be driven by mutable data. It could be possible to create a fully interactive programme. Imagine choosing where to sit in a concert hall during a broadcast of classical music, or navigating the houses in Albert Square during an episode of Eastenders.

1-3 all sound sensible developments for a TV corporation. I don’t see how any of these are possibly a bad thing for TV quality. Indeed the whole point seems to be improving quality over a traditional ‘static’ TV broadcast, and acknowledging that not everyone just wants stereo audio. Number 4 (Full interactivity) could introduce interesting new concepts to story telling, but as the blog post states is more likely to be used for concerts or soaps.

Yes people watch stuff on their mobiles but that’s not destroyed, nor is going to destroy, the film and TV industry. It is also not going to force you to watch on a mobile if you don’t want to.

[Vilya]

I will always prefer my physical copies despite the amount of space my collection requires. I like taking a tangible disc and placing it in my player and watching the content thereon. I only need the electric utility to do its job to enjoy my discs.

The internet here is flaky making anything that needs it unreliable and frustrating. I don't want to be at my ISP's mercy when I want to watch a movie.

I don't care about the ability to access my movies from anywhere, either. I never cared to watch any content on tiny portable screens. When I am away from home, it is usually to visit someone. I prefer to be fully engaged with the people in my proximity and the environment I am in.

I have never used a single code that came with any of my discs, although I did give two away once. I have used the codes to get Disney and Sony Reward points, but never to watch anything.

I am just a relic of my era, I suppose. I have more than enough discs to watch for the remainder of my life if the supply of new discs were to vanish, but I don't foresee that happening anytime soon.

[CSM101]

Originally Posted by PCFan

What are you going to do when you run out of shelf space?

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[flyry]

Originally Posted by GaragePoet

i'm surprised this topic is so heavily debated on this forum. are there sites dedicated to digital copy enthusiasts?

Yes

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by PCFan

What are you going to do when you run out of shelf space?

Originally Posted by CSM101

Improvise

That lower cabinet looks like the one I have in the Garage right now, full of DVD's. It looks like you are filling up, Kitchen Cabinets are next, and then the Microwave! You better start looking at Digital HD!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

That lower cabinet looks like the one I have in the Garage right now, full of DVD's. It looks like you are filling up, Kitchen Cabinets are next, and then the Microwave! You better start looking at Digital HD!

He has a trash can for codes!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I will always prefer my physical copies despite the amount of space my collection requires. I like taking a tangible disc and placing it in my player and watching the content thereon. I only need the electric utility to do its job to enjoy my discs.

The internet here is flaky making anything that needs it unreliable and frustrating. I don't want to be at my ISP's mercy when I want to watch a movie.

I don't care about the ability to access my movies from anywhere, either. I never cared to watch any content on tiny portable screens. When I am away from home, it is usually to visit someone. I prefer to be fully engaged with the people in my proximity and the environment I am in.

I have never used a single code that came with any of my discs, although I did give two away once. I have used the codes to get Disney and Sony Reward points, but never to watch anything.

I am just a relic of my era, I suppose. I have more than enough discs to watch for the remainder of my life if the supply of new discs were to vanish, but I don't foresee that happening anytime soon.

Exactly.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Dunk the Lunk

Rather than Steedeel’s pessimism, here’s an (old) article from the BBC about OBB. It actually sounds quite interesting:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2013-05...o-broadcasting

Also, with the extreme success of programs such as GoT and other box set binge watching I seriously doubt that long form film and TV is on its way out.

Did you even read my original link? It started by talking about how more and more people are replacing time in front of the tv with catching 20 minutes of content on the commute to work etc.. that alone is a horrible thought because it’s suggesting the tv will go away. The article also talks about making clips shorter to enable posting on social media sites and the ability to skip entire characters and focus on your favourites in condensed formats. I find it just about the most depressing tech news/opinions I have read this year.