Is Blu-ray just for the "In Crowd?"

[Rob J in WNY]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Combo VHS/DVD players didn't arrive for several years. And they always remained much more expensive. And the nature of analog tape meant that the recording degraded over the years increasing the quality difference. Compare that to the continuing attempts to improve the upscaling of DVD.

A VERY interesting and good point! DVD is staying closer to BD than VHS could ever to DVD. "Upconversion" is practically a household word these days, and a great seller.

[bluseminole]

I wonder if that article is citing the same Harris poll that asserted more people own HD DVD players than BRD players??

If there's anything we know about polling data, it's that it can be skewed and spun to fit anybody's point of view. Not to mention that when polling about next-gen technology, you can't be sure those you are polling are reliable and/or representative sources. That's why polling is inherently unscientific to a large degree.

[dolphinc]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Actually illegal rips of BDs are relatively good quality and they sidestep the issue of bandwidth by the filesharing structure of torrents. The user still has to be able to download enormous files, but the real problem on the commercial end isn't explicit here: there is no server that needs to be able serve the enormous files to thousands of nodes quickly and simultaneously.

But even then, the rips are transcoded at a lower bitrate and unless I'm mistaken, probably feature downgraded audio as well. Oh, and they're illegal.

Sorry, I ment to say streaming HD quality, a person with a slow dsl connections can download a bit torrent file even they don't mind waiting 6 days for the movie and not affraid of spending time in jail.

I've never updated my firmware on my Panasonic BD30 and I've not had any problem with any of my ~400 discs. Sucks if your player has issues, but it's not something plaguing all players.

I guess Panny has got it right because I have seen almost every other brand on one thread or another with disc problems. Maybe I should have bought a panny .

[mjbethancourt]

This is such a bunch of garbage. Any thread reprinting any of these bulls--- articles supporting that bulls--- Harris poll should be immediately deleted by admin. It's not news, it's certified FUD dogcrap. Shame on the OP.

[KingDeezie]

Doesn't anyone get tired of printing this stuff??

Again, they have been printing this sort of nonsense, since high definition disc's inception....

In that time since, a format winner has been chosen, Bluray players have come down in price, and everyone from Shoprite (mine anyway) to Best Buy has increased their available on hand selection of movies. The nearest Best Buy went from one quarter of an aisle dedicated to both Bluray/HD-DVD to two entire aisles, with hundreds of available titles on bluray.

My shoprite even has a Magnovox BD player on sale this week for 169.

[Rblu-Dblu]

I just have one thing to say about that article.



How many articles have we seen that says bluray is going to fail? How many more will be written between now and the time the next format comes out? Ask those same people in 8-10 years.

[alphadec]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

This is such a bunch of garbage. Any thread reprinting any of these bulls--- articles supporting that bulls--- Harris poll should be immediately deleted by admin. It's not news, it's certified FUD dogcrap. Shame on the OP.

Totaly agree, so ADMIN any more like this articel DELETE IT.

[carpaltonnel]

Originally Posted by alphadec

Totaly agree, so ADMIN any more like this articel DELETE IT.

Yeah, I'm sure that this will get deleted??? Some people take things sooooooooooo serious? It's a story, debate it, move on. Wowsa!?

[Anthony P]

According to a new poll from Harris Interactive...

this was enough to know that it won't have anything intelligent in it. Any article based on a poll that shows that HD DVD is highly outselling BD even though HD DVD has not been around for a year.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by tvine2000

this is old news.the harris poll has been proven to be false.you can't go by that poll.for one they reported people having hd dvd players when it was upconvert players.the person who did this poll doesn't have a clue.hd dvd has been dead for 2 years.yes people still have there players but the numbers are wrong.

we don't know what was wrong. It could be (like you said) up scaling DVD players=HD DVD, but there could be many other reasons, we don't know the actual questions so maybe HD DVD= HD movies (i.e. includes BD). Maybe it got posted on an HD DVD site and so had an abnormal number of HD DVD fan boys (and since they tend to be anti BD...), they say they adjust for age/gender/income, it becomes easy to manipulate the data, why be a male 20-50 which will be most people voting and so the vote won't count as much when you can be a 16 or 65 year old girl (I don't know their age brackets)….
In the end there is only one thing certain, that it does not make sense and can’t be anywhere near an accurate representation of what is happening.

[JAGUAR1977]

Originally Posted by lunddal

I stopped reading after this:

"According to a new poll from Harris Interactive,"

I still find it amazing that after all this time the public has not clocked onto how the media, online in particular, operate's.

They repeat what come's down the wire's, so in the case of the Harris poll, flawed data will be repeated.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by carpaltonnel

Yeah, I'm sure that this will get deleted??? Some people take things sooooooooooo serious? It's a story, debate it, move on. Wowsa!?

No, it's not a story, it's false information, and it's exactly the kind of thing that admin should be controlling and removing. Blu-ray.com is a private enterprise, they are under no obligation to publish "stories" that are false and harmful to their basic agenda. I've seen them delete many other threads for much less egregious content. Plus, they already ran their side of the story in regards to that Harris poll. I think you should not have posted this thread.

[Strannix136]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

If I'm in the "In Crowd" I want out.


Blu-ray is doing amazingly well despite the fact that DVD brought much more to the table at the time of it's inception.

When I got my first DVD player in '97, I was obsessed by the 5.1 sound. The picture was not of much concern to me due to the fact that I was watching on a 27" CRT. Now, owning a Pioneer PDP-5070HD, I'm obsessed with both.

[steve1971]

Blu ray for the "in" crowd? lol. I am not part of that "in" crowd thats for sure. I love Blu ray and anything HD. Both are gonna grow and be around for a very long time in my book.

[tron3]

Gotta +1 all the guys who made sense.

See why I keep my "Creatures of Hard Media" article in my signature line? It still applies. People want to OWN the movie - period. Cable, Dish, and web media are options which serve different markets - period.

When the economy improves so will the sales of blu-ray players and discs. -Double Period..

[Chordata]

No, it's not for the "in crowd." Plenty of awesome people don't even know what BD is.

[carpaltonnel]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

No, it's not a story, it's false information, and it's exactly the kind of thing that admin should be controlling and removing. Blu-ray.com is a private enterprise, they are under no obligation to publish "stories" that are false and harmful to their basic agenda. I've seen them delete many other threads for much less egregious content. Plus, they already ran their side of the story in regards to that Harris poll. I think you should not have posted this thread.

RELAX, don't do it (da da da da da da da) relax.

[zicmubleu]

Imagine finding so many Blu-ray supporters on a Blu-ray forum? Who would have guessed?

When portable Blu-ray players finally arrive, not laptops, then the media will have a much better chance. Once I see Blu-ray players hanging on the seat backs of SUVs with little kids watching them I will know Blu-ray has made it to the top. Dropping the cost of the movies would help, but without easy portability it will have a hard time replacing DVD effectively.

[koontz1973]

Please let me be able to watch good films with good quality transfers and audio without putting a label like in crowd on me.

The problems with polls is that you can make them say anything you want them to say. If I ask the question,

Will you adopt Blu Ray?

a.never
b.already done it and happy
c.only when the price comes down
d.plan on doing it this year

for a negative poll I release answer a and c
for a positive poll I release b and d.

This is how polls work.

As for streaming over the net, who is going to pay the billions to lay all this nice new cable.

I like Blu as I like to see and hold what I own, same with DVD, Videos (yes I still have some) and CD's.

That's my rant of the day

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by koontz1973

As for streaming over the net, who is going to pay the billions to lay all this nice new cable.

I like Blu as I like to see and hold what I own, same with DVD, Videos (yes I still have some) and CD's.

That's my rant of the day

Damn right! If we end up with nothing but streaming or downloads, how are we going to show our friends we own WAY MORE movies than they do?!