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Old 11-08-2009, 01:46 AM   #41
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While I understand the necessity and benefits of 2.40:1, I'm always happy when a movie is 1.85:1. I paid a lot for that Kuro and I want the damn thing filled up!
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:22 AM   #42
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While I understand the necessity and benefits of 2.40:1, I'm always happy when a movie is 1.85:1. I paid a lot for that Kuro and I want the damn thing filled up!
If 1.85 is filling your Kuro, then you're probably not using it correctly.

I for one paid good money on a TV so that it represents the director's original vision as closely as possible.

Didn't a thread just like this appear a month or so ago?

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Old 11-14-2009, 09:31 PM   #43
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Well since i paid $3000 for my tv and blu's are not cheap ( ) i like the larger ( 1:85:1 ratio... Not completely full screen but very close... I feel robbed when i get a 2:31 aspect ratio
Mine is what ever the original aspect ratio is for the film. I don't see how you are robbed of anything if a film is 2.35:1 or even and older film which is 1.33:1. You can always use the zoom button on your remote if you don't want the black bars.
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:36 PM   #44
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The right one. I bought a TV to watch movies, not aspect ratios
Perfect answer right here.
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:50 AM   #45
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I'm seriously confused about all these aspect ratio's, sorry. I watched UP tonight and was surprised there were no black bars. I shot a text to a friend who said that I should have black bars. Should I or shouldn't I?

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Old 11-15-2009, 01:59 AM   #46
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I'm seriously confused about all these aspect ratio's, sorry. I watched UP tonight and was surprised there were no black bars. I shot a text to a friend who said that I should have black bars. Should I or shouldn't I?
I just checked my copy and the box states 1.78:1, so no black bars.

Oh, by the way, I prefer the OAR.
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:59 AM   #47
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Full screen (16:9 full screen obviously, not 4:3) feels cramped to me. I prefer my movies wider.
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Old 11-15-2009, 03:13 AM   #48
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And I like not losing out on anything the director wants to show me as a viewer, so I enjoy and prefer to watch movies in whatever aspect ratio they were shot and intended to be presented
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I like OAR.

With movies like The Shining and The Sting that are filmed and presented in different ratios and then put out on DVD in different ratios all claiming to be OAR and what the director intended confuses me. Since the directors are gone, we must use interviews, books and IMDB.com to tell us what they intended.

Honestly, I like The Shining's Blu-ray ratio, it seems to frame the film nicer. The 4:3 DVD seems to have too much space on the top and the bottom, but maybe that is what Kubrick intended; to have everything in a box. Or, I read he wanted 2 copies, one for theaters and one for TV.

What about The Sting. I'm gonna go watch the DVD now. Great movie, can't wait for the Blu-ray.

edit: Finished watching The Sting, great movie, great music. Movie opens with, "This film has been modified to fit your screen." I guess I have my answer, 1.85:1 is it.

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Old 11-16-2009, 12:47 AM   #49
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I always looked at it from the standpoint of if you paid for four new tires for your car, but only being given 3 of them to use. In every other aspect of consumer life, you would never pay full price for something and then throw away 25% of what you bought. that's basically what you do if you don't watch films in their OAR.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:19 AM   #50
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I recently got a tv back in january. its a philips 47pfl7403D/f7. I found out recently that it can do unscaled meaning that it doesn't overscan the picture. its nice not losing the picture. like the nightmare before christmas bluray has black side bars. there is a little bit of black bar all around.. its not very noticeable during the movie. I also prefer whatever the directors intent from 2.35 to 1.85 etc.

I hope the experts would explain the unscaled/overscan more. I think people need to be educated about it.

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Old 11-16-2009, 02:21 AM   #51
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What ever the OAR is. I enjoy 1:85 since it takes up the entire screen.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:34 AM   #52
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What ever the OAR is. I enjoy 1:85 since it takes up the entire screen.
OAR I believe is short for Original Aspect Ratio...that would be what the movie was intended to be shown in. Am I right guys?
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:32 AM   #53
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[QUOTE=rubystone356;2544481]I recently got a tv back in january. its a philips 47pfl7403D/f7. I found out recently that it can do unscaled meaning that it doesn't overscan the picture. its nice not losing the picture. like the nightmare before christmas bluray has black side bars. there is a little bit of black bar all around.. its not very noticeable during the movie. I also prefer whatever the directors intent from 2.35 to 1.85 etc.

I hope the experts would explain the unscaled/overscan more. I think people need to be educated about it.

Jacob[/QUOTE
Are you thinking about 1:1 pixel mapping. I have HD1 and HD2 setting on my Panasonic plasma and HD2 is 1:1, that is, every pixel on the dvd or blu-ray is displayed exactly. So with films at 1:66 or 1:78 will fill the screen perfectly but films at 1:85 will have very thin black bars at the top and bottom of the screen. 2:35 and others will have the larger black bars but you will be seeing everything the director wanted his audience to see. On HD1 there is a sight overscan applied so that every movie you watch under 2:35 will have no black bars because it slightly enlarges the image on your display.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:01 AM   #54
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nightmare before christmas had mild black side bars on it. the bluray that is.
that coppola war movie dvd also had some blackbars on top and bottom.. however if you are overscan it will fill up the screen.

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Old 01-06-2010, 11:51 PM   #55
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My favorite AR, in a theater or at home, is 2.2:1, the most common 70mm AR, used by Todd-AO, (Super, not Ultra) Panavision 70, (Super) Technirama 70, etc. The shape simulates the approx arc of vision (approx 2:1, 180 degrees by 90 degrees in most humans), but also minimizes instances of the eye crashing into the top of the frame.

That being said, the Blu-ray people should use the director's preferred AR for that particular film, if known, with the possible exception of films shot in Ultra Panavision or Camera 65 (both about 2.76:1) .... I would like it if films in the latter two formats would be presented with a choice or 2.76:1 or some other AR (like 2.35, for instance) so that those with the smaller home screens (including all CRTs) can avoid looking at a small ribbon like picture, with very reduced impact.

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Old 01-07-2010, 12:36 AM   #56
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OAR of any film is my favourite.
First reply pwns them all.

Seriously, I always want to watch a movie in the proper original aspect ratio. I hate it when movies are cropped in order to fill the screen more.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:06 PM   #57
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OAR every time. I can tolerate open matte in some cases, but I hate it when a movie is cropped to fill the screen. Movies were not meant to be edited like that.
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Well since i paid $3000 for my tv and blu's are not cheap ( ) i like the larger ( 1:85:1 ratio... Not completely full screen but very close... I feel robbed when i get a 2:31 aspect ratio
I would feel robbed if the aspect ratio was different from what was in the theater. Original aspect ratio is the best. Any else would be a travesty.
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Old 01-07-2010, 02:14 PM   #59
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Obviously, whatever the OAR of the source material is, *but* I have to say I prefer watching things like TV shows filmed in HD because they do film the screen.

I spent a lot of time in the late 80's/90's educating people about the benefits of letterboxing, which I strongly support, but I *prefer* when the material is 16:9/1.78/1.85 native because it fills the nice wide TV.

Although some directors are going to keep pushing the ratio to ridiculous lengths, the truth is the vast majority of people who are going to see any given film are going to see it on a 16x9 monitor in their home, and over time I think you'll see less of the 2.4+ silliness that some directors feel is needed.
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I would have to say the OAR as well. Although ever since I have upgraded to a projector setup saying the black bars don't bother me is a lot easier, because even though they are there, I still have plenty of picture to look at.
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