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Old 08-21-2007, 08:35 PM   #1
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I didn't see any Blu-Ray owners complaining about the Blu-Ray only releases. This technology needs to be a available to everyone. Sony Prices are too high for people of certain incomes. A player for $200.00 should be available if for no other reason to keep Sony from dominating the market. Movies are art and need to be available to all. The problem is that Sony played its own form of hard ball from the start. If you think Sony is in this for anything other than the biggest possible profits then you are sadly mistaken. This is a mess on everyones part except the consumer. Enough finger pointing. Time to make the technology affordable to everyone.
Oh come on, grow up. Every Company worth their salt is out for maximized profits - its called Capatalism! I think its fine if Sony and Toshiba slug it out like little children, which this war has seemed to foster. What I don't appreciate is third-party's coming in with their own Corporate bribery machines and scewing around with an area they no little to nothing about. M$ should keep their Corporate wallet out of this format "disagreement" and let market forces drive. The problem is, M$ seems to be just as childish as Toshiba and Sony when it comes to HD.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:25 PM   #2
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Can anyone put up the link for Bays website with him saying he won't do T2. I had yesterday now it's mysteriously disappeared.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:26 PM   #3
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http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum...iewprofile&u=3

Check this out, says 23 posts but when you click on all post only comes up with 22
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:30 PM   #4
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:33 PM   #5
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:34 PM   #6
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It's gone and now you have to log in to view anything. No doubt a move by Paramount to quiet anyone speaking out against their tyranny.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:36 PM   #7
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...um... or since the post has been hitting all the news outlets, the hit traffic has increased and they're hoping to get folks to sign up for the message board. That's my guess. Not quite as cloak and dagger as you might think it is.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:58 PM   #8
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It's gone and now you have to log in to view anything. No doubt a move by Paramount to quiet anyone speaking out against their tyranny.
What makes you think Paramount owns his website? I think Michael Bay can afford his own site lol.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:28 PM   #9
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I suppose it was not a problem to have movies released for Blu-ray only? I say Disney and Fox started this nonsense with Blu-Ray only releases. All films should be released on all formats so that everything is available to the public. Let the public decide which player is the best suited for their needs. Now that Paramount has made a decision Blu-Ray supporters want to cry foul. It's ok when the decision is in your favor? I own both formats and say they are both excellent technologies. I blame the studios for this mess. Make these films available to all formats and let the public decide what player they want. Does it really matter what player is used as long as we get to see the films we want? If the HD DVD is more affordable for a segment of our population then all films should be available on that format as well. I'ts all so childish. The only loser is the consumer.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:32 PM   #10
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The only loser is the consumer.
Once this format is unified then the consumer wins. This decision just makes that process take longer so you are correct, the loser is the consumer, just not in the way you were pointing out.

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Old 08-21-2007, 06:32 PM   #11
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I suppose it was not a problem to have movies released for Blu-ray only? I say Disney and Fox started this nonsense with Blu-Ray only releases. All films should be released on all formats so that everything is available to the public. Let the public decide which player is the best suited for their needs. Now that Paramount has made a decision Blu-Ray supporters want to cry foul. It's ok when the decision is in your favor? I own both formats and say they are both excellent technologies. I blame the studios for this mess. Make these films available to all formats and let the public decide what player they want. Does it really matter what player is used as long as we get to see the films we want? If the HD DVD is more affordable for a segment of our population then all films should be available on that format as well. I'ts all so childish. The only loser is the consumer.
Um Paramount's decision was based on a massive buy out. BDA is not influencing companies to be strictly Blu-ray with mass amounts of cash. The companies feel it is in their best interest to support BD over HD DVD without selling out. Huge difference.. DUH
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:51 PM   #12
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Lots (and lots and lots) of unhappy people. Many of them important:

Insider stuff

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OK, here it is. As far as the Spielberg situation goes, it is true that any of his movies on Paramount:

Indiana Jones Trilogy
Saving Private Ryan
War of the Worlds

If released in the next 12 months will be on Blu-ray exclusively or dual-format. She has worked directly with the Spielberg camp for some time now and she has the understanding that Spielberg has the same agreement with his titles on Universal. So this means that when the following films are released in HDM, they will be on both formats if this agreement holds:

ET
Jurassic Park
Jaws

Now on to the suprising part of the phone call. She mentioned that several Directors, including Michael Bay, Francis Ford Coppola and even James Cameron have voiced their frustration to Paramount with this decision. She said she would not be surprised to see similar agreements reached with Coppola and Cameron as what has been reached with Spielberg.

Does this mean if The Godfather Trilogy and Titanic are released on HDM they will be on both formats? I do not know, but it seems like these Directors are going to put-up a fight.

She also mentioned that today they are getting more complaint calls from talent, producers and executives then yesterday. She said it is a madhouse right now. She also mentioned they recieved thousands of emails from Paramount customers over the past 24 hours voicing their displeasure for this decision.

That is all I have for now. I am going to leave her be for a few days as I can tell she is VERY busy. I may contact her again on Friday.

It will be very intersting to see how all of this falls out. I am starting to have my doubts that Paramount will be HD-DVD exclusive for a year
So, add Coppola and Cameron to the p!ssed-off list.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:53 PM   #13
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Um Paramount's decision was based on a massive buy out. BDA is not influencing companies to be strictly Blu-ray with mass amounts of cash. The companies feel it is in their best interest to support BD over HD DVD without selling out. Huge difference.. DUH

Believe what you will. Everyone is in the business to make money for shareholders.

How is going exclusive selling out? This alleged fee of $150m, hardly sets the film industry alight does it? 1-2 films?

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Old 08-21-2007, 07:28 PM   #14
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I suppose it was not a problem to have movies released for Blu-ray only? I say Disney and Fox started this nonsense with Blu-Ray only releases. All films should be released on all formats so that everything is available to the public. Let the public decide which player is the best suited for their needs. Now that Paramount has made a decision Blu-Ray supporters want to cry foul. It's ok when the decision is in your favor? I own both formats and say they are both excellent technologies. I blame the studios for this mess. Make these films available to all formats and let the public decide what player they want. Does it really matter what player is used as long as we get to see the films we want? If the HD DVD is more affordable for a segment of our population then all films should be available on that format as well. I'ts all so childish. The only loser is the consumer.
I would say, IMO, since blu-ray is outselling HDDUD 2:1, that the public has already made their choice. Also making all movies available on both formats just so a smaller group of the overall population can get a movie in HD on a HDDDVD disc rather than blu-ray, based on their means to afford it, is ludacris and not practical.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:15 PM   #15
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I suppose it was not a problem to have movies released for Blu-ray only? I say Disney and Fox started this nonsense with Blu-Ray only releases. All films should be released on all formats so that everything is available to the public. Let the public decide which player is the best suited for their needs. Now that Paramount has made a decision Blu-Ray supporters want to cry foul. It's ok when the decision is in your favor? I own both formats and say they are both excellent technologies. I blame the studios for this mess. Make these films available to all formats and let the public decide what player they want. Does it really matter what player is used as long as we get to see the films we want? If the HD DVD is more affordable for a segment of our population then all films should be available on that format as well. I'ts all so childish. The only loser is the consumer.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:22 PM   #16
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:26 PM   #17
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Cool This is the second time you have posted this drivel

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I suppose it was not a problem to have movies released for Blu-ray only? I say Disney and Fox started this nonsense with Blu-Ray only releases. All films should be released on all formats so that everything is available to the public. Let the public decide which player is the best suited for their needs. Now that Paramount has made a decision Blu-Ray supporters want to cry foul. It's ok when the decision is in your favor? I own both formats and say they are both excellent technologies. I blame the studios for this mess. Make these films available to all formats and let the public decide what player they want. Does it really matter what player is used as long as we get to see the films we want? If the HD DVD is more affordable for a segment of our population then all films should be available on that format as well. I'ts all so childish. The only loser is the consumer.
It's still not valid. Go back to your HD-Blah site. Blu-Ray didn't PAY anyone to be exclusive. Paramount and Dreamworks got PAID and for a struggling studio they needed the money and I get that. But to pretend that this is good for the consumer is just stupid. The only people losing here are consumers. The consumers are choosing Blu and that choice was just taken away from them by deep pockets.

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Old 08-21-2007, 08:28 PM   #18
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I suppose it was not a problem to have movies released for Blu-ray only? I say Disney and Fox started this nonsense with Blu-Ray only releases. All films should be released on all formats so that everything is available to the public. Let the public decide which player is the best suited for their needs. Now that Paramount has made a decision Blu-Ray supporters want to cry foul. It's ok when the decision is in your favor? I own both formats and say they are both excellent technologies. I blame the studios for this mess. Make these films available to all formats and let the public decide what player they want. Does it really matter what player is used as long as we get to see the films we want? If the HD DVD is more affordable for a segment of our population then all films should be available on that format as well. I'ts all so childish. The only loser is the consumer.
What about Universal? Its Fox and Disneys fault? Go back to av$ troll.
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I suppose it was not a problem to have movies released for Blu-ray only? I say Disney and Fox started this nonsense with Blu-Ray only releases. All films should be released on all formats so that everything is available to the public. Let the public decide which player is the best suited for their needs. Now that Paramount has made a decision Blu-Ray supporters want to cry foul. It's ok when the decision is in your favor? I own both formats and say they are both excellent technologies. I blame the studios for this mess. Make these films available to all formats and let the public decide what player they want. Does it really matter what player is used as long as we get to see the films we want? If the HD DVD is more affordable for a segment of our population then all films should be available on that format as well. I'ts all so childish. The only loser is the consumer.
Can you please post this in a few more threads?

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Old 08-21-2007, 08:40 PM   #20
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I suppose it was not a problem to have movies released for Blu-ray only? I say Disney and Fox started this nonsense with Blu-Ray only releases. All films should be released on all formats so that everything is available to the public.
HD DVD doesn't offer any incentive over Blu-ray. Blu-ray offers incentives in the format that Fox and Disney require. There is NO reason for Paramount not to release on Blu-ray. There is good reason for Fox not to release on HD DVD.
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