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Old 02-11-2013, 03:51 AM   #41
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The longer you've collected and the more you've paid, the more frustrated you are at seeing these re-releases with identical art. The collectors 'who feel strongly' are some of the long-time members here.

Change up the artwork and give us something decent and most everyone's happy. Iron Man (play) took the sting out of me not owning Iron Man (FS) which came out before I knew what a steelbook was. There was a lot of worry about what play would do with Iron Man when it was first announced. Star Trek is one of the most-sought-after titles that garners the same worries, and last year's AU Star Trek was a bit of a monkey turd to the relief of many, who are going to get stung a few months later thanks to Zavvi.

These events cause some collectors to lose interest, as has been voiced in other threads when this happens. If a few more people get the elusive cover, should I care? Not really.

It needs to be some type of collectible package, boutique label or limited run for me to buy it, and I don't know if that will change because I never collected movies in other formats. To a large extent I collect packaging of movies that are liked and I'll eventually get around to watching them. There's a lot more info available online now that leads me into so many so-called blind-buys, info that wasn't available when the earlier formats were all we had: blu-ray.com reviews, rotten tomatoes and online trailers. Before that it was Siskel and Ebert and the Sunday newspaper, and I did not go out to the movies very much. Still don't.

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Old 02-11-2013, 06:24 AM   #42
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Do they charge you when you pre-order or not until it ships?
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:33 AM   #43
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This is why paying over the odds for 'rare' releases is a joke.

If you're a collector, it shouldn't matter since you still have your original version in your collection. All re-releases like this do is reduce some perceived value, which doesn't really matter since you're a collector, so you're not selling it anyway, right? I can see why if you paid a lot for a copy, you'd feel stung - but there's nothing to stop something like this happening to any release. It's all part of the game.
It doesn't matter if you're going to sell it or not. A collector feels a sense of worth/pride when their one-of-a-kind item's value rises. It's just good to know that something in one's collection is WORTH that much! One can't help but feel a little betrayed, rightfully or wrongfully, when the same art is re-released as another exclusive.
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:26 AM   #44
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I think KRP's point is a valid one that LE steelbooks from the niche companies like Eureka is much more likely to stay unique when OOP than one from a Hollywood studio.

Both the studios and retailers can see the value of reissuing Star Trek as a steelbook to tie into the new film's release. They now it will sell to not just steelbook collectors but those just wanting to buy the film as they have been reminded about it by the new one.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:32 AM   #45
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According to a high def member this will have a 8,000 print.
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:49 AM   #46
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The problem is that there are movies like Blues Brothers, Star Wars, Spaghetti Westerns.. I could go on and on, that don't have a steelbook. Yet they rob the collectors of an exclusive from 3 years ago. Is a bit pants really.

I thought we over this period of re-re-re releasing steelbooks. This already had a play.com/Futureshop edition.
There is a BLUES BROTHERS SteelBook. Saw it in Media Markt last month.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:13 AM   #47
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You know what is most daft about these re-releases? And it's not that collectors feel like they are being ripped off by their precious steelbooks losing value. Anyone thinking that way is into the hobby for all of the wrong reasons! What's daft is that these companies aren't realizing the potential for even more revenue by offering variations in artwork design.

As is, all of those hardcore collectors would jump at the chance to own multiple steelbook designs of a film like this. They'd have a much better chance of quickly turning a profit and a quick stock turnover by offering us something we don't already have.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:39 AM   #48
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I'm skipping this release because I dislike the blue banner, and I also expect to see a steelbook for the sequel, which will most likely not have the blue banner.

Zavvi is about three years too late with the release of this.
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:30 PM   #49
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Zavvi is about three years too late with the release of this.
not if you have been following the ebay pricing of the original play.com version of this, as mint copies are going for up to £200.
In my mind these will all be snapped up (all 8000)
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:40 PM   #50
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Already have the 3 disk amaray of this so not interested, ugly blue banner on it anyway!
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:45 PM   #51
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Already have the 3 disk amaray of this so not interested, ugly blue banner on it anyway!
Now that data sheets have been almost universally adopted, the blu banner has a 'retro' feel to it.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:50 PM   #52
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Already have the 3 disk amaray of this so not interested, ugly blue banner on it anyway!
Ive got this one with a mint slipcover too. Has this stopped me pre-ordering this steel one anyway? Nope!
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:54 PM   #53
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Agree with WKRP and Petra that different artwork designs the way to go. I have multiples of many movies and would fully support the notion to go in that direction.

After the Roger Rabbit announcement, I have no doubts Zavvi's team could have come up with a brilliant artwork alternative for ST.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:12 PM   #54
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Ive got this one with a mint slipcover too. Has this stopped me pre-ordering this steel one anyway? Nope!
Each to their own, I see it as a waste of money, especially as it's from Zavvi.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:16 PM   #55
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Each to their own, I see it as a waste of money, especially as it's from Zavvi.
Each to their own indeed. Steelbooks could be seen as a waste of money full stop in that case.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:19 PM   #56
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Literally bought this film last week. Oh well.

On the other hand I only paid £5 for it so I guess buying it last week was lucky as I'm not tempted to pay £15 for it now.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:21 PM   #57
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According to a high def member this will have a 8,000 print.
I wouldnt listen to much that is said over there they never produce any evidence of much of what they claim.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:43 PM   #58
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Each to their own indeed. Steelbooks could be seen as a waste of money full stop in that case.
If I didn't already have the film it wouldn't be a waste of money, but the fact is I already have it, it's from Zavvi and it's only 1 disc, so no thanks.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:45 PM   #59
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Probably the only steel that I like the blue banner on.

This is like re releasing the FS Iron Man steel, imagine that? The entire forum would implode....


At least mine will still have the original stickers.



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Old 02-11-2013, 07:42 PM   #60
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Thanks for the pic Mavrick, I must say that does look pretty cool.
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