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Old 02-18-2013, 06:20 PM   #41
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I read some of the response here and I just have to ask, how did anybody actually like Never Let Me Go? I mean sure it may have been well acted, but man was that a pointless, depressing piece of crap!
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I don't think it was pointless or depressing but rather inert in ways the novel probably wasn't. I felt the film was a bit bogged down by it's seeming faithfulness to the novel. However, it's an intelligent, well intentioned film that has stuck with me. I'm more than eager to revisit it one day.
I agree - Never Let me Go was just horrid. A sci-fi romance? Make up your mind, Mr. Screenwriter - it can be (a) Sci-fi OR (b) Romance, it can't be both. The Sci-fi plot became all but forgotten, as the ROmance plot dominated. About 2/3 way through, I even forgot it was a Sci-fi I was watching Think of the top 5 sci-fi's ever made. Guess what they all have in common? None are romance films.

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Old 02-18-2013, 06:28 PM   #42
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I read some of the response here and I just have to ask, how did anybody actually like Never Let Me Go? I mean sure it may have been well acted, but man was that a pointless, depressing piece of crap!
If exploring what it means to be human is a pointless endeavor then yes, this film and the novel from which it was adapted were pointless.

And dystopian science fiction does tend to be a bit dark (that's kind of what the 'dys' is all about) so yeah, depressing is pretty fair.

Piece of crap? Hardly. It was very well written, very well acted and very, very deftly directed and if you didn't see parallels to ethical questions we face in the here and now you just weren't looking.

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Melancholia (I know it got a lot of attention for Von Triers comments but the movie itself deserved just a little more recognition I believe
Speaking of dark, depressing movies I absolutely loved...

This was a little too high-profile to make my list but yes, it was absolutely fantastic.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:29 PM   #43
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I agree - Never Let me Go was just horrid. A sci-fi romance? Make up your mind, Mr. Screenwriter - it can be (a) Sci-fi OR (b) Romance, it can't be both. The Sci-fi plot became all but forgotten, as the ROmance plot dominated. About 2/3 way through, I even forgot it was a Sci-fi I was watching Think of the top 5 sci-fi's ever made. Guess what they all have in common? None are romance films.

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Take Blade Runner, for instance. That's not a love story, it's a shoot-em-up. It's not about exploring humanity, it's about hunting and killing robots.

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Old 02-18-2013, 06:34 PM   #44
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I really enjoyed Hanna. It's very much an exercise in style, so I can see how it rubbed some folks the wrong way, but I thought it was way better than the overall critical/imdb consensus gives it credit for.
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Take Blade Runner, for instance. That's not a love story, it's a shoot-em-up. It's not about exploring humanity, it's about hunting and killing robots.

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Right - Blade Runner is a romance drama

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EDIT: There are romance elements, sure, but as you say, it was more about "humanity" in Blade Runner, whereas Never LEt Me Go was more about a love triangle, one that could have been in any genre. Most of the romance plot/dialogue, unlike Blade Runner or Solaris, was your standard 101 Romance Love Triangle stuff, that wasn't dependent on the sci-fi plot, IMO. Just my 2 cents.

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Old 02-18-2013, 06:52 PM   #46
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I agree - Never Let me Go was just horrid. A sci-fi romance? Make up your mind, Mr. Screenwriter - it can be (a) Sci-fi OR (b) Romance, it can't be both. The Sci-fi plot became all but forgotten, as the ROmance plot dominated. About 2/3 way through, I even forgot it was a Sci-fi I was watching Think of the top 5 sci-fi's ever made. Guess what they all have in common? None are romance films.

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I disagree, Solaris is a shining example of a film that fully integrates both romanticism and loss with heady science fiction ideas. There's quite a few films that successfully so, as a matter of fact.
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I disagree, Solaris is a shining example of a film that fully integrates both romanticism and loss with heady science fiction ideas. There's quite a few films that successfully so, as a matter of fact.
Oops I forgot about Solaris! Good call!

So I suppose it was just that this particular Sci-fi didn't work for me, not that the Sci-fi/Romance mix never works.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:10 PM   #48
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If exploring what it means to be human is a pointless endeavor then yes, this film and the novel from which it was adapted were pointless.

And dystopian science fiction does tend to be a bit dark (that's kind of what the 'dys' is all about) so yeah, depressing is pretty fair.

Piece of crap? Hardly. It was very well written, very well acted and very, very deftly directed and if you didn't see parallels to ethical questions we face in the here and now you just weren't looking.
Well let me explain a bit of why I didn't like the film. I never read or even knew their was a book, so I was completely unfamiliar with it. The only reason I even watched was because it got good reviews, I'm a sucker for romance movies and I was interested in the cast.

You could imagine my disappointment when I found out what the movie was actually about, and somebody like me who needs a happy ending in my romantic movies, this just wasn't what I was looking for!

My biggest problem with the film really is quite simple,
[Show spoiler]why couldn't they all just run away and NOT F'N give away their organs!!!!
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:13 PM   #51
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Totally agree with you on Sucker Punch especially the comparison.

My personal picks for underrated films are
The Last Circus- Very strange, but very good.
Midnight in Paris- I'm not generally a huge fan of Woody Allen, but this was an incredible movie.
Melancholia- Not enough people have seen this!
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Liberal Arts/ Happythankyoumoreplease - Josh Radnor first two efforts in my opinion showcase a young Woody Allen - if he can honed his craft more, Radnor could a remarkable success.

Red State - Lots of people hated this effort but Kevin Smith's vicious take on horror in my book was a unpredictable, tense achievement.

Beginners - Yes, Christopher Plummer won the Academy Award but most people did miss this film and it's a shame - it's a wonderfully sharp dramedy with tremendous character relationships.

Scott Pilgrim vs. the World
- The fact that audiences passed this movie over is shocking. The comic series is brilliant and Edgar Wright captured the style to a tee - it's simply one of the most visually unique, entertaining films I had the privilege to watch in 2010's so far.
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Savages.

Loved this movie and easily the best film Oliver Stone has directed since Natural Born Killers nearly 20 years ago!
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I really enjoyed Hanna. It's very much an exercise in style, so I can see how it rubbed some folks the wrong way, but I thought it was way better than the overall critical/imdb consensus gives it credit for.
+1 on both of these.

I enjoyed them both, but overall I can sse why they just didn't appeal to the massees.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:42 PM   #55
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Films that come to mind:
The Devil's Double
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The Man From Nowhere
I Saw The Devil

Both of these are Korean films
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:04 AM   #59
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The Master
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Oh and I agree that Never Let Me Go is one of the most underrated, too, in my top ten of the 10s.

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