Remakes don't sell well... why do they keep making them?

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey guys:

Sorry language barrier alert.

I didn't necessarily mean the financial side of the things..... I mean..... remakes are very hated by critics and fans alike, not counting movie buffs (the also hate sometimes).

I was talking about general consensus too.

Yeah, pretty much everything everyone said still applies though.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey guys:

Sorry language barrier alert.

I didn't necessarily mean the financial side of the things..... I mean..... remakes are very hated by critics and fans alike, not counting movie buffs (the also hate sometimes).

I was talking about general consensus too.

The answer is still money. If there's a likelihood of easy money, a movie will be made.

[Jennifer Lawrence Fan]

To the OP. You keep saying people hate remakes. If that were the case why do they keep continuing to make money for? If they were so hated they wouldn't make any money and the studios would realize that.

[Chaotic]

avatar was a huge hit.

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[Kevin Holly]

Either this is a joke topic, or, more likely, a troll topic.

TC is deliberately ignoring facts, and, when presented with them, procedes to move the goalposts and say he meant something else, ironically, it is equally inaccurate.

It would be one thing to decry remakes in general and do the "rah rah rah no creativity" thing, because at least that is an opinion and therefore sustainable, but OP is actively denying facts such as remakes making significant money and/or achieving widespread acclaim.

Ignore the topic and cease and disist posting, that's my vote.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey guys:

Sorry language barrier alert.

I didn't necessarily mean the financial side of the things..... I mean..... remakes are very hated by critics and fans alike, not counting movie buffs (the also hate sometimes).

I was talking about general consensus too.

And yet:

21 Jump Street/22 Jump Street (Hardly flops...both have 85% and 84% or RT alone...)
The Departed
Ocean's Eleven
The Mask of Zorro
3:10 to Yuma
Rise of the Planet of the Apes
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Godzilla (2014)
Insomnia
Red Dragon
Sherlock Holmes
Ben-Hur
The Wizard of Oz
The Fugitive
The Untouchables
The Thing (1982, which you conveniently looked over when blasting the prequel...Liked by audiences, was a flop, and hated by critics. Now a classic.)
The Karate Kid (Well reviewed, and made quite a bit of money...)
Father of the Bride (1991 film)
Gone in 60 Seconds (2000 film)
Sabrina (1995 film)
The Magnificent Seven (Remake of Seven Samurai)

All were well reviewed by critics, made money financially, and were a hit with audiences...That's just the ones off the top of my head. There's many, many more.

Also, again, it's not like they only remake movies...Remakes, sequels, and reboots probably make up less than 10% of the total films you could be seeing in a year. But it's easier to focus on that I guess than actually seeking out movies that aren't. Therefore, it begins leading to this same topic being brought up over and over again. Rinse, wash, repeat.

[Optimus]

Walts Ghost is dropping knowledge in this thread.

[SymbioticFunction]

Just the other day, I noticed that Japan had created a 2013 remake of Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, starring Ken Watanabe. I wonder if it's worth checking out?

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

avatar was a huge hit.

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That was a remake of Dances With Wolves and Ferngully.

[SymbioticFunction]

And The Smurfs.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

Just the other day, I noticed that Japan had created a 2013 remake of Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, starring Ken Watanabe. I wonder if it's worth checking out?

Here's the trailer:

『許されざる者』 本予告 - YouTube

[LegacyCosts]

This thread's responses (other than the ones from the OP) are a good reminder of why I frequent this forum. Cheeky, opinionated bastards, but intelligent/entertaining enough to take the time to back opinions up with knowledge pertaining to stuff we're all here for.

[Mystic]

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

Some are hits. Many of them are box office disasters. But when you have no original ideas or are afraid to take a chance financially on something that hasn't been done before, what other choice do you have? It's either comic books, regular books(mostly young adult these days), remakes, or reboots.

It's for this reason, I stay out of the theaters, and buy older films on blu ray. I have no interest in films based on comic books, young adult movies, cartoons, remakes, or reboots. Sorry Hollywood!

[SymbioticFunction]

No need to apologise, I'm pretty sure that Hollywood will survive your personal boycott.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Mystic

It's for this reason, I stay out of the theaters, and buy older films on blu ray. I have no interest in films based on comic books, young adult movies, cartoons, remakes, or reboots. Sorry Hollywood!

That makes sense. Anybody with a Carl Kolchak avatar must have refined tastes indeed

[Mystic]

Originally Posted by octagon

That makes sense. Anybody with a Carl Kolchak avatar must have refined tastes indeed

Well, thank you

[MomentsAgo]

I've always been curious how much of a remake's gross is made up of people whose only interest in it is "to see how bad it is". I have friends that say they are sick of remakes, yet they will spend money to go see them because they want to see how bad they are. And when asked why they contribute to them if they want them to stop, they respond with "The lack of one ticket sale isn't going to make a difference".

Originally Posted by octagon

That makes sense. Anybody with a Carl Kolchak avatar must have refined tastes indeed

Unless it's this one:

[UniSol GR77]

I have nothing against remakes, personally speaking.

I'm waiting for the EFNY remake, for instance. I liked RoboCop and Evil Dead.

I was just asking a question, since on each forum out of there I see hate threads against remakes and so on...


By the way:

The Mask of Zorro (a remake? It features a new story, very original)
Rise of the Planet of the Apes (a remake? Different story)
Godzilla (2014) - Loved it
Red Dragon - Not better than "Manhunter"
Sherlock Holmes (a remake ??????????????)
The Fugitive (coming from a series, movie adaptation)

[s2mikey]

The only time I have a problem with a remake is when the original is actually good or in some way regarded as a classic. A great example of a worthy/valueable remake is The Fly. The original is dated, cheesey, poorly made and quite silly. The Jeff Goldblum edition is a terrific film in destroys the old one in every way possible.

A bad example is Fright Night. The original cast and film are perfect and despite some effects cheese its a great film that hits all the right notes with the characters and such. So, they go and ruin that with Colin focking Farrell and the completely unnecessary remake of a classic 80s horror film.

There are plenty of other examples where rebooting or remaking is simply despicable. Ghostbusters? Superman? Effing kidding me?

BLEH.

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

Red Dragon - Not better than "Manhunter"

Both films are excellent. I think it's difficult to compare them, honestly, as they are quite different in tone.