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Old 08-11-2016, 02:56 AM   #41
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I think it would be far more interesting if they end up going back to Armitage Trail's novel and basically did a period piece remake of the 1932 original.

That would really mess with people's heads that are expecting a hip-hop heavy soundtrack and "Say Hell to My Little Friend" to be spammed ad nausea.
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Old 08-11-2016, 03:08 AM   #42
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I think it would be far more interesting if they end up going back to Armitage Trail's novel and basically did a period piece remake of the 1932 original.

That would really mess with people's heads that are expecting a hip-hop heavy soundtrack and "Say Hell to My Little Friend" to be spammed ad nausea.
Why not have a period piece with the hip-hop and the "say hello to my little friend!" line all together? Swap out Fuqua for Baz Luhrman, and then everybody's minds would be f**ked.
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Old 08-11-2016, 03:12 AM   #43
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Why not have a period piece with the hip-hop and the "say hello to my little friend!" line all together? Swap out Fuqua for Baz Luhrman, and then everybody's minds would be f**ked.
Oh hell no. A Baz Luhrman helmed Scarface would be the single worst thing of all time.

I absolutely DESPISE Baz Luhrman's directing style with a seething hatred.
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Old 08-11-2016, 03:15 AM   #44
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I have never been against remakes. In fact, some of my favorite films have been remakes (The Thing, True Grit, The Departed, and Scarface to name a few) and while I may not agree with a remake, I am usually willing to give it a chance.

However, it is my opinion that remakes/reboots should only be made under these circumstances:
  • The original's vision/scope was compromised due to limitations of the time period. This could include special effects, the public's acceptance of language and violence, etc.
  • The concept can be explored and mined further

My issue with most remakes made today is they pick properties for the bankable name only and never about the concept. I look at upcoming reboots/remakes such as Road House and Splash as prime examples of what is wrong with remakes. There is nothing in either film that screams we must remake this. These properties are being remade for the sole purpose of using a recognizable name in the hopes that it will be enough to get butts in seats.

Remakes like De Palma's Scarface were acceptable because it was able to do and portray things that the original was not. The original, while violent for 1932, is tame in comparison to the remake. While violence doesn't equal a better film, De Palma's ability in the 80s to create a no-holds barred approach to violence and drug use which allowed him to create a believable world of a gangster. Point being, much like a War film should be violent to depict the horrors of war, the same is true for a film based on a gangster.

I don't necessarily see a reason to remake this film a second time. I can't think of anything that a new film could add to the story to make it worthwhile. However, despite that, it could still end up being a great film. I just feel that they would have been better off making a Scarface-inspired film and called it something else. When you name the film Scarface, you are only inviting comparisons of not one, but two films.

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Oh hell no. A Baz Luhrman helmed Scarface would be the single worst thing of all time.

I absolutely DESPISE Baz Luhrman's directing style with a seething hatred.
I know, right?
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Old 08-11-2016, 03:30 AM   #46
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Fuquaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 08-11-2016, 04:25 AM   #47
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Disappointing; I've come to expect more from Fuqua; a truly excellent director. I know I am at least somewhat hypocritical for being beyond excited for his Magnificent Seven remake and, on the other hand, pretty riled up about this, but that's just what it is.

Denzel would make a fine Montana, I guess, but maybe they'll go the all-female route and Elizabeth Olsen will take the lead role.

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Anyways, more disturbing than the remake itself are these kinds of comments:

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It's not like the Pacino Scarface is a masterpiece of filmmaking. It's a cheesy 80's crime camp fest.
and some even harsher!! I'm pretty sure Scarface is pretty much a perfect film in every way, so thanks for coming out, haters.

It is, in fact, a masterpiece of filmmaking, and a glorious 80's crime excellence fest.
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Old 08-11-2016, 05:22 AM   #48
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Oh, you're still here telling people their opinions are wrong and that you're the only one who knows what qualifies as good filmmaking.

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Old 08-11-2016, 05:26 AM   #49
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They better NEVER try to remake "West Side Story" or"The Quiet Man".
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I can't wait for the inevitable Hitchcock Remake Extended Cinematic Universe.
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:14 AM   #51
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I prefer the 1932 film honestly.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:10 AM   #52
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Ehh, Scarface isn't even that good...
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I can't wait for the inevitable Hitchcock Remake Extended Cinematic Universe.
Why are you giving them ideas?
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... That is what they said about Ben Hur ... Lawrence of Arabia next ... But with a female cast ! Yessss.


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I have never been against remakes. In fact, some of my favorite films have been remakes (The Thing, True Grit, The Departed, and Scarface to name a few) and while I may not agree with a remake, I am usually willing to give it a chance.

However, it is my opinion that remakes/reboots should only be made under these circumstances:
  • The original's vision/scope was compromised due to limitations of the time period. This could include special effects, the public's acceptance of language and violence, etc.
  • The concept can be explored and mined further
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  • The original was shit/crap/not that great

Agreed.

Dredd for example was absolutely fine and they totally nailed the new one. Remaking that again would also be a silly thing to do.
I still wonder why the studio didn't go "wait, the main character will keep the helmet on the whole movie? That has to change, re-shoot!!".

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Disagreed.

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... That is what they said about Ben Hur ... Lawrence of Arabia next ... But with a female cast ! Yessss.
All female cast. Girl power!!!111(*)

...No no no, it didn't flop because it was a bad movie. It flopped because of misogyny and the patriarchy.

(*) (c) Sony marketing department

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Old 08-11-2016, 09:32 AM   #56
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Melissa McCarthy as Tammy Montana.
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Could you even imagine the reaction...
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The movie has already been remade once, if they wanna do it again go for it. Just make it good, as Scarface so far is still 2-for-2.
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