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RalphoR · 07-31-2018, 07:51 PM

The Z9F sounds like one helluva tv but I can't justify getting rid of the Z9D for it at this point in time. Lack of 3D is not a deal breaker but coming in at a price most likely north of $5k US is. The D still rocks but the good news is I'll most likely be all over the Z9G in 2-3 years

MechaGodzilla · 07-31-2018, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RalphoR

The Z9F sounds like one helluva tv but I can't justify getting rid of the Z9D for it at this point in time. Lack of 3D is not a deal breaker but coming in at a price most likely north of $5k US is. The D still rocks but the good news is I'll most likely be all over the Z9G in 2-3 years

I don't think there'll be a G (that would be next year's range), perhaps a Z9H in 2020 though. Right in time to implement HDMI 2.1, too.

ray0414 · 07-31-2018, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

When I entered the room it was the 1st thing I asked them to do so I did not see the image before the reset.

Looks like John Archer has similar thoughts to the black levels of the Z9F. talking to him on twitter currently.

alexanderg823 · 07-31-2018, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

One more observation when I went into the private rooms. The ambiant light was very low and the Sony demonstrator hit the reset to factory defaults in the custom mode. The color fadility was dead on to the BMX300 OLED reference monitor as was the HDR tonal range and speculate highlights, but the cinemascope bars were dark gray, not black and the illuminated slightly when a bright object was near the bars.

that's bizarre, sounds like FALD was not working appropriately in the black bar areas?

While the Z9D black bars definitely weren't perfect, they were mostly not noticeable aside from the occasional blooming when a bright object was near them.

ray0414 · 07-31-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by alexanderg823

that's bizarre, sounds like FALD was not working appropriately in the black bar areas?

While the Z9D black bars definitely weren't perfect, they were mostly not noticeable aside from the occasional blooming when a bright object was near them.

kind of a bad look to not have your dimming working properly on "your big day".

Nothing371 · 07-31-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hmmm. I've got a couple of very cute cats.

pics pls

Geoff D · 07-31-2018, 08:08 PM

Oh thank God the ZF9 has something wrong with it. Urge to upgrade fading...fading...gone.

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Originally Posted by Nothing371

pics pls

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Nothing371 · 07-31-2018, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Oh thank God the ZF9 has something wrong with it. Urge to upgrade fading...fading...gone.

See my user profile

omfg. They are a perfect pair. SO cute.

Penton-Man · 07-31-2018, 08:12 PM

Sheesh, doesn’t anyone work around here.

Are you all trust fund kids or what? If so, please list me in your revocable living trusts.

P.S.
Geoff, you of all people should be unpacking groceries today.

Geoff D · 07-31-2018, 08:13 PM

Not today, I had a day off! Ha!

DJR662 · 07-31-2018, 08:19 PM

First off, I take it it's 100% sure there is no 3D? Was to be expected but still a disappointment to me.

I would love to read an in depth review/analysis by Vincent Teoh. Despite the lack of 3D I am still interested but it damn sure better be top of the line.

Any further info? I literally just tuned in a minute ago so I'm not up to date. Quantum dots? Zone count/nits perhaps and price?

ray0414 · 07-31-2018, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJR662

First off, I take it it's 100% sure there is no 3D? Was to be expected but still a disappointment to me.

I would love to read an in depth review/analysis by Vincent Teoh. Despite the lack of 3D I am still interested but it damn sure better be top of the line.

Any further info? I literally just tuned in a minute ago so I'm not up to date. Quantum dots? Zone count/nits perhaps and price?

no confirmation on quantum dots, zone counts, or nits. or price.

looks like sony did some tinkering though to improve viewing angles. but there's mixed reports on the black levels of the Z9F.

Waboman · 07-31-2018, 08:39 PM

Geoff D · 07-31-2018, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ray0414

no confirmation on quantum dots, zone counts, or nits. or price.

looks like sony did some tinkering though to improve viewing angles. but there's mixed reports on the black levels of the Z9F.

Could well be that the blacks take a hit as a result of the increased brightness and the increase in viewing angles, it may well still be a VA panel but who's to say that compromises haven't been made to improve those angles?

samlop10 · 07-31-2018, 08:49 PM

Going through the AVSForums threads, rumor is that:

It has 1500 dimming zones,
Quantum Dots
4000 nits
eARC
HDMI 2.0 (no 2.1; not that I actually care about this)
And of course, HDR10, Dolby Vision

It seems like it’ll also have the new CALMAN version that auto-calibrates fully in minutes.

Nothing confirmed of course, but those sound like pretty reasonable upgrades for Sony’s new flagship LCD model.

Depending on the black levels and dimming zone performance, I might be swayed to the dark (lighter?) side of LCD...

Vangeli · 07-31-2018, 09:10 PM

Lack of VRR and HDMI 2.1 is certainly a bummer. I understand PlayStation doesn't do that so Sony doesn't give a hoot but the X1 Ultimate is the only 2.1 capable processor at the moment and missing out on all the other benefits is just a waste. Not comfortable dropping $5k on the not-future.

I've been waiting to upgrade but I'm disappointed. Lack of 3D doesn't help. May very well stick with Vizio for now; 2000-nit HDR peaks and quantum dot color in the new P-Series is a nice upgrade for only $2k.

Robert Zohn · 07-31-2018, 09:21 PM

Good video from today's press conference:

DJR662 · 07-31-2018, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Could well be that the blacks take a hit as a result of the increased brightness and the increase in viewing angles, it may well still be a VA panel but who's to say that compromises haven't been made to improve those angles?

If it's one thing I don't care about, it's limited viewing angles. The Z9D has some of the worst viewing angles I have ever seen, but I simply don't care since I always sit dead center. VA for life!

Would be a g**damn shame if the alleged light bleed in the letterbox bars is a direct result due to some type of "improvement" of viewing angles.

DJR662 · 07-31-2018, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Good video from today's press conference:

Thanks, Robert.

Anything you wish to share based on your personal experience? What do you think judging from what you have seen so far? Have you seen the 65" or perhaps the 75"?

Contrary to what I have said before, I just might consider getting a 75Z9F for the living room despite the lack of 3D (which really hurts btw, how ******* hard can it be to include it, Sony?!). But if I do decide to get one, I expect it to be near perfect in its performance, especially with HDR. Also I wonder what the chances are of the 75" being different/slightly better than the 65" like with the 65/75" Z9Ds.

BLMN · 08-01-2018, 12:12 AM

its a nice set, no doubt but I just invested some $$ on the 75 Z9D and I'm totally satisfied with it. it will be my main 4k tv for the next 5 years or more for sure, wont be looking for any replacement until we see what happens with 8k in the near future.

07-31-2018, 07:51 PM	#41
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	The Z9F sounds like one helluva tv but I can't justify getting rid of the Z9D for it at this point in time. Lack of 3D is not a deal breaker but coming in at a price most likely north of $5k US is. The D still rocks but the good news is I'll most likely be all over the Z9G in 2-3 years

07-31-2018, 08:12 PM	#49
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Sheesh, doesn’t anyone work around here. Are you all trust fund kids or what? If so, please list me in your revocable living trusts. P.S. Geoff, you of all people should be unpacking groceries today.

07-31-2018, 08:13 PM	#50
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1347 Blu-ray collection:2524 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Not today, I had a day off! Ha!

07-31-2018, 08:19 PM	#51
DJR662 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2009 Trading Score:30	First off, I take it it's 100% sure there is no 3D? Was to be expected but still a disappointment to me. I would love to read an in depth review/analysis by Vincent Teoh. Despite the lack of 3D I am still interested but it damn sure better be top of the line. Any further info? I literally just tuned in a minute ago so I'm not up to date. Quantum dots? Zone count/nits perhaps and price?

07-31-2018, 08:39 PM	#53
Waboman Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:In a van down by the river 4K collection:197 Blu-ray collection:500 Trading Score:3

07-31-2018, 08:49 PM	#55
samlop10 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Austin TX Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:1041 Blu-ray collection:3901 DVD collection:9 Blu-ray reviews: 59 Trading Score:1	Going through the AVSForums threads, rumor is that: It has 1500 dimming zones, Quantum Dots 4000 nits eARC HDMI 2.0 (no 2.1; not that I actually care about this) And of course, HDR10, Dolby Vision It seems like it’ll also have the new CALMAN version that auto-calibrates fully in minutes. Nothing confirmed of course, but those sound like pretty reasonable upgrades for Sony’s new flagship LCD model. Depending on the black levels and dimming zone performance, I might be swayed to the dark (lighter?) side of LCD...

07-31-2018, 09:10 PM	#56
Vangeli Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2017 Location:Maine, US Trading Score:3	Lack of VRR and HDMI 2.1 is certainly a bummer. I understand PlayStation doesn't do that so Sony doesn't give a hoot but the X1 Ultimate is the only 2.1 capable processor at the moment and missing out on all the other benefits is just a waste. Not comfortable dropping $5k on the not-future. I've been waiting to upgrade but I'm disappointed. Lack of 3D doesn't help. May very well stick with Vizio for now; 2000-nit HDR peaks and quantum dot color in the new P-Series is a nice upgrade for only $2k.

08-01-2018, 12:12 AM	#60
BLMN Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2011 Location:Southern NH 4K collection:253 Blu-ray collection:736 DVD collection:36 Digital collection:7 Trading Score:8	its a nice set, no doubt but I just invested some $$ on the 75 Z9D and I'm totally satisfied with it. it will be my main 4k tv for the next 5 years or more for sure, wont be looking for any replacement until we see what happens with 8k in the near future.

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