Samsung Quits 4K Blu-ray Player Market

[Noremac Mij]

I briefly owned a Samsung UHD player, its HDR looked dimmer than a DVD player. Paid $500, couldn’t even give it away for free to friends/family. It’s in a landfill somewhere. Should be illegal to sell a product like that.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I know your humor well enough to recognize it. All is well.

Cool, some folks don't, even after ten plus years. It's like all they watch is Suspiria.
I knew you read me correctly, that emoji was very clear ...

[Katatonia]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

I never rated the first Samsung 4k player anyway. Plus I have an issue than I can’t fix on my Samsung 4k tv. One of the hdmi sockets is defunk and doesn’t work. Samsung won’t fix it. Plus whatever they told me to do over the phone didn’t bloody work.

When the whole thing gives up the ghost (hopefully not for a good while) I’m not buying another Samsung tv again. I’m done with Samsung. I’ll look to Sony or Panasonic.

I've never had good luck with Samsung products. Either they had various "issues" or they simply died way too prematurely. I pretty much gave them three tries, and they struck out three times. So needless to say, I probably wouldn't even consider buying another Samsung product.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Cool, some folks don't, even after ten plus years. It's like all they watch is Suspiria.

It's cool that you know you're joking, but intent can be hard to read on the other side of a computer screen and if other people still don't get it after 10+ years then maybe it's not entirely their fault, you know?

I find your lack of smilies....disturbing

[LordoftheRings]

Their 4K players look, feel, weight like Fisher toys for babies in their cribs.
Are they a subdivision of Huawei?

[grodd]

Not a big loss.

[Geoff D]

I believe that my first standalone BD player was a Samsung (first actual BD player was a PS3). A spring came loose and it kept jamming the disc tray, I quickly sent it back and have never touched another Samsung player since.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's cool that you know you're joking, but intent can be hard to read on the other side of a computer screen and if other people still don't get it after 10+ years then maybe it's not entirely their fault, you know?

I find your lack of smilies....disturbing

Geoff, I used to use tons of smilies; some folks were highly disturbed.
Anyway it's not about you and what you think of smilies that others use or don't use, it's about Samsung's latest announcement.
It's a good advancement, next.

[Geoff D]

That's the thing, use them too much and people will always think you're overdoing it. Don't use them at all and people treat everything you say as being deadly serious. I'm one of the ones who can't often tell if you're mucking about or if you mean every last crazy word of it

[Vilya]

Humor is a risky business, especially in written form. In the absence of audible and visible cues, it is very easy to take every typed word literally. Combine that with those that seem to actively seek conflict and it doesn't take much to set a thread ablaze.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's the thing, use them too much and people will always think you're overdoing it. Don't use them at all and people treat everything you say as being deadly serious. I'm one of the ones who can't often tell if you're mucking about or if you mean every last crazy word of it

Let's clear the air once and for all; I'm not a fan of Mickey mouse Samsung 4K BR players, so that latest news has zero effect in my life. It is still a recent subject of discussion with now the third company to exit the 4K BR players market.

[frank_t]

the slow decline continues. there is no upside to this.

hopefully it won’t happen all at once the way 3D was killed off in new sets. i just purchased a second 2016 Lg OLED 65C6P set as a backup to my current one. 3D is just so incredible on this tv and the set itself is just a rare gem. with a couple hundred 3D movies i want to be certain i can watch them wellinto the future.

physical media, and in particular 4K perhaps will become the new LD, a small set of titles, produced for the collector and enthusiast, with a high cost. maybe that’s a good thing if it happens. same way LPmhas seen a collector resurgence.

will continue to buy and backup to media server. but there are already plenty of 4K titles that are streaming only and apple et al will continue to strike deals to kill off the physical market.

4K streaming can’t touch UHD video or audio quality.

Vive la UHD!

[Noremac Mij]

iTunes 4K is just fine.

[Eidolon]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

This should be alarming since this is the 3rd company leaving the 4K BD market. 1st Oppo, then Cambridge, now Samsung. This is might be the beginning of the end for the 4K optical format.

Did Oppo and Cambridge leave only 4k, or BD entirely? I'm asking as I'm in the UK and not familiar with thier various players here despite being familiar with the compaines.

Despite the various negative comments about Samsung players on this thread, I have a standard 1080p 3D Samsung machine that I'm happy with. It was one I could get region chipped compartitively inexpensively, and I'm very worried about losing Samsung players on account of how practical they are for me, especially given how they can be multi-regional and play most formats. I've had no issues with it the few years I've had it, which is more than I can say for the Philips player I use to save some wear and tear on my 3D multi-regional Samsung. CNET say that Samsung are stopping all of their BD players in the USA, but nowhere else claims this. So either CNET know something nobody else does, or hopefully they're wrong. Not usre why it refers to the USA only, I find it odd if Samsung were to still produce them for elsewhere.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by frank_t

there is no upside to this.

4K streaming can’t touch UHD video or audio quality.

Vive la UHD!

Sure there is: an entire line of mediocre feather weight plastic players that lack Dolby Vision support are exiting stage left thereby making more room for better players from better companies.

The sun will rise tomorrow for all those that remain.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

iTunes 4K is just fine.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

John, some folks need to take a course on humor; they grab everything as if the world was ending. Of course with collections of over 20,000 physical discs it's going to take quite some time before the world ends. Samsung with their 8K TV offerings are simply following a trend that can take 8 years before holding some serious investments.
The technology is simply more advanced than the people ready for it.

If Samsung just quit on 4K BR players it must mean they don't make money with them because they don't support Dolby Vision and most likely never will. If you don't support what the market wants you to support might as well go the way of the dodo.
It's the same with 4K versus 3D.

By my statement I was implying Samsung's QC is lousy by questioning spending the money on a Samsung 8K. Its not the 8K trend I am critiquing.

[frank_t]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

iTunes 4K is just fine.

to each their own.

i didn’t build a high quality home theater to feed it adequate video and audio

but if that works for you, awesome

and thanks for making my point: UHD and indeed physical media is probably headed to the true niche market of film buffs and enthusiasts the way LD was in its heyday. as LP is today.

if we are lucky, we’ll have true 4K downloads, not streaming, but real downloads ala HD tracks et al who provide HD audio downloads unfettered by DRM.

good luck when Apple loses the license to your “bought 4K content”. it is already happening....

remember in all this there is only one loser: the consumer

[78deluxe]

Originally Posted by film11

5.3% market share is a little momentum? That's lower than 3D had at its height. (And in an unrelated note: saw Alita in IMAX 3D. A must!)

I didnt reference market share. Quantity of releases and more reasonable prices which are starting to happen help drive adoption.

I have a large 3d collection. While TVs were being made quantity and distribution remained low and prices never really dropped. It wasnt until after it died did we start to see $10 and less releases of films actually worth owning.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by Eidolon

Did Oppo and Cambridge leave only 4k, or BD entirely? I'm asking as I'm in the UK and not familiar with thier various players here despite being familiar with the compaines.

Despite the various negative comments about Samsung players on this thread, I have a standard 1080p 3D Samsung machine that I'm happy with. It was one I could get region chipped compartitively inexpensively, and I'm very worried about losing Samsung players on account of how practical they are for me, especially given how they can be multi-regional and play most formats. I've had no issues with it the few years I've had it, which is more than I can say for the Philips player I use to save some wear and tear on my 3D multi-regional Samsung. CNET say that Samsung are stopping all of their BD players in the USA, but nowhere else claims this. So either CNET know something nobody else does, or hopefully they're wrong. Not usre why it refers to the USA only, I find it odd if Samsung were to still produce them for elsewhere.

Oppo last units were only 4K units the 103 & 105 are the last non 4K units they made the 203 & 205 replaced them. Oppo isn't making any BD players anymore at all. Samsung so far has only left the 4K BD player market (at this point).