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Old 02-15-2019, 07:29 PM   #1
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:43 PM   #2
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This should be alarming since this is the 3rd company leaving the 4K BD market. 1st Oppo, then Cambridge, now Samsung. This is might be the beginning of the end for the 4K optical format.

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Old 02-15-2019, 07:47 PM   #3
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Lame. You want people to buy your 4K QLED TV's yet will make no UHD disc player even available to them. iTunes Movies being included with 2019 Samasung TV's now makes more sense.

Some of their UHD disc players were decent, the K8500 was the first UHD disc player ever released.

Note they will still make regular Blu-ray players.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:51 PM   #4
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It's not dead yet. OPPO always were a specialist outfit, not making money hand over fist with their home video tech but enough to keep going, yet when its parent company decided that phones were far more profitable then that was that. And as the Cambridge is basically a rebadged OPPO (no semantic arguments please, I *know* it's more complicated than that but at its core it's the same thing) then it's not some amazing revelation that they would also follow OPPO out of the market.

Samsung stopping 4K decks is the bigger story by far, but their staunch refusal to get involved with Dolby Vision may have been wot done it. Everyone else has embraced DV on their players in one form or another, and a premium Samsung deck (as hinted at by Archer in that article) was gonna look pretty ****ing silly without it.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:54 PM   #5
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Given that they’d be the only UHD BD player brand not supporting Dolby Vision, I’m not too surprised. It would be very hard for Samsung to stay competitive to high end buyers when their competitors support Dolby Vision. Panasonic players support all three formats (on their high end models at least).
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:56 PM   #6
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4K is, and always will be, a niche market, and even BD shares that distinction, though to a lesser extent. As the Forbes article painfully points out, DVD still claims 58% of the market share.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:59 PM   #7
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I don"t like curved TVs and I don't like curved 4K BR players.
We still have LG 4K BR players and OLED TVs.
We also have Sony and Panasonic 4K BR players and OLED TVs.
The Sony X800M2 is universal, and the Panasonic 9000 is high-end picture.

Bonus: We have a Pioneer universal 4K BR player...LX500.
...Built like a bulletproof presidential car.

We are still doing fine...for now. Most 4K BR players play 3D Blu-ray movies.
And most are "convertibles", playing BR discs from all world's regions.

I don't think we'll see 8K Blu-ray players this year. ...Not from Samsung anyway, and neither from Cambridge and Oppo.

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Old 02-15-2019, 08:07 PM   #8
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Living in the year 2019 without Dolby Vision?
What were they thinking ... Samsung!
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:09 PM   #9
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Samsung is a bunch of quitters.

They got out of the Mirorless Camera market after making some excellent products and then poof they were gone.

This move is pretty terrible as 4K is starting to acually see a little momentum.
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This should be alarming since this is the 3rd company leaving the 4K BD market. 1st Oppo, then Cambridge, now Samsung. This is might be the beginning of the end for the 4K optical format.

Also in the case of OPPO and Cambridge this means no more Blu-ray players at all since all they had was 4K models. It still needs to be verified if Samsung has also existed the DVD and Blu-ray player business also in favor of streaming that is built into their Smart TV's.
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I have not heard much that was good about Samsung's players, anyway. They are likely doing the world, and the format, a big favor here by making room for superior products from other companies.
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Panasonic, LG, Sony pretty much have the 4K UHD disc player market cornered anyway. Samsung had a tough time competing and with no DV support, no one will buy them. This leaves the door open for Pioneer to gain more footing in the UHD player market and other brands.

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I have not heard much of anything good about Samsung's players, anyway. They are likely doing the world, and the format, a big favor here.
Their best disc players imo were the 4K UHD K8500 model (it's a classic, 1st UHD player) and the Blu-ray/HD-DVD player the BD-UP5000 (great player, classic format war player, good build quality).
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The Samsung BD-UP5000 DUO player is the noisiest machine ever built.
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Panasonic, LG, Sony pretty much have the 4K UHD disc player market cornered anyway. Samsung had a tough time competing and with no DV support, no one will buy them. This leaves the door open for Pioneer to gain more footing in the UHD player market and other brands.



Their best disc players imo were the 4K UHD K8500 model (it's a classic, 1st UHD player) and the Blu-ray/HD-DVD player the BD-UP5000 (great player, classic format war player, good build quality).
I recall, vaguely, hearing a lot of negatives about the K8500. The format wars were 13 years ago. Even if the K8500 was a great player, along with the UP5000, Samsung needed more than just two great models over a 13 year time period. I haven't heard Samsung mentioned in discussions about quality players since I can't remember when.
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RIP physical disc players and physical discs. Welcome Samsung 8K TVs. ...Sony soon to follow.
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RIP physical disc players and physical discs. Welcome Samsung 8K TVs. ...Sony soon to follow.
I don't believe in burying the living alive; it's really bad form, even rude.
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Maybe they're concentrating on their 4K miniLED televisions? Maybe they'll write 3D back into that. I hope they do. Long live 3D!

(ps: I'm keeping my 4K discs and 3D discs.)
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Also in the case of OPPO and Cambridge this means no more Blu-ray players at all since all they had was 4K models. It still needs to be verified if Samsung has also existed the DVD and Blu-ray player business also in favor of streaming that is built into their Smart TV's.
That's why I posted that Samsung is the 3rd company leaving the 4K player market. They are still in the 1080p BD player market (until we hear otherwise).
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