New Fist of Fury - 88 Films - November 23rd 2020

[ps3bd_owner]

Originally Posted by OldPangYau

Been a little quiet here... Time to drop the trailer I edited for 88 Films

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpD3...ature=youtu.be

And yes, I know Jackie starred in Cub Tiger From Kwantung first, but let's be honest, New Fist of Fury was his first widely released starring role, lol.

Why is that the English dubs always feel out of place / distracting on martial arts and kung fu movies? Newer ones don't have this issue, but older had this problem and were somewhat cartoony.

[Killer Meteor]

Originally Posted by ps3bd_owner

Why is that the English dubs always feel out of place / distracting on martial arts and kung fu movies? Newer ones don't have this issue, but older had this problem and were somewhat cartoony.

Generally, they were dubbed in Hong Kong by expats in a variety of English language accents. They were not usually professional actors.

[El_Fez]

Originally Posted by ps3bd_owner

Why is that the English dubs always feel out of place / distracting on martial arts and kung fu movies?

I'm the complete reverse. Having watched most of my Kung Fu flicks on a 10 inch B&W TV on a UHF station running a grainy as hell pan and scan dubbed version, the dubs are right and proper to my ears. Its the new ones that are out of place.

[chen lung]

Originally Posted by Killer Meteor

Too many characters and subplots, but no resolutions!

Well, I never!

Originally Posted by Killer Meteor

the film is 5/10 at best.

Killer Meteor
Former PR for Lo Wei Motion Picture Co.

Originally Posted by Killer Meteor

Another music cue from NFOF...the music when Lo Wei goes to meet Nora is an old library cue that was the title music for the Boris Karloff Mexican opus The Snake People.

Next time there had better be a three-way commentary! Kung Fu-PangYau-Meteor!

when he is competing with some especially shreiky opera

Yeah, not my idea of ASMR.

[Killer Meteor]

Originally Posted by chen lung

Well, I never!


Killer Meteor
Former PR for Lo Wei Motion Picture Co.


Next time there had better be a three-way commentary! Kung Fu-PangYau-Meteor!


Yeah, not my idea of ASMR.

Looks like I gave it 4/10 once, so it's gone up in my view! - https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/for...hp?f=19&t=6736

[OldPangYau]

Originally Posted by chen lung

Next time there had better be a three-way commentary! Kung Fu-PangYau-Meteor!

Funny enough, Mike Leeder tweeted about getting me, him, Arne, and KF Bob on a four way commentary... and he suggested Fantasy Mission Force. I think it would just turn into RiffTrax at that point

[Killer Meteor]

Originally Posted by OldPangYau

Funny enough, Mike Leeder tweeted about getting me, him, Arne, and KF Bob on a four way commentary... and he suggested Fantasy Mission Force. I think it would just turn into RiffTrax at that point

Make this happen!

[Volvo242Turbo!]

Loving the trailer, especially with the music put into it.

Btw the new artwork is revealed on the 88Films pages but I dont know how to post it. Looking pretty good to, probably my favourite so far!

[OldPangYau]

Originally Posted by Volvo242Turbo!

Loving the trailer, especially with the music put into it.

Btw the new artwork is revealed on the 88Films pages but I dont know how to post it. Looking pretty good to, probably my favourite so far!

Also, now that it's announced... Kung Fu Bob and I collaborated on an audio commentary as well! Here's the full spec list:

Slipcase with brand-new artwork from R.P. “Kung Fu Bob” O’Brien [Limited Edition - first print run only]

Extensive Booklet Notes by Bruce Lee Historian and Martial Arts movie reviewer for Martial Arts Illustrated and World of Martial Arts magazines :-Andrew Staton [Limited Edition - first print run only]

New 2K Remasters from The Original 35mm Negatives in 2.35:1 Aspect Ratio

Original 1976 Cut (120 mins) [Mandarin DTS-HD MA Mono and English DTS-HD MA Mono options]

Re-edited 1980 Cut (83 mins) [Cantonese DTS-HD MA Mono and English DTS-HD MA Mono options]

Newly Remastered English Subtitles

[new] Audio Commentary by Asian cinema expert Brandon Bentley and artist / Hong Kong cinema expert R.P. “Kung Fu Bob” O’Brien

[new] Audio Commentary by Hong Kong cinema expert Andrew Staton

Original Hong Kong Trailer

English Trailer

Reversible sleeve with original Hong Kong poster artwork and brand-new artwork from R.P. “Kung Fu Bob” O’Brien

[Drunksnake]

That cover is great, right up there with Fearless Hyena and Dragons Forever which are my favourites. Glad to hear Kung Fu Bob’s doing another commentary along with Brandon pang yau Bentley. Both of these guys have done brilliant commentaries so I have high hopes for this. I think these commentaries and the picture/sound quality should make this an excellent release of an otherwise unpopular movie. Thanks for giving us so much to look forward to this year 88 Films and crew.

[drush9999]

Having only ever seen the shorter cut, I'm looking forward to this.

[OldPangYau]

Originally Posted by drush9999

Having only ever seen the shorter cut, I'm looking forward to this.

That's why I'm so happy we got both cuts on there, as it's been quite a while since the two hour cut's been released... the US Columbia/Tri-Star DVD is one of the last times it got put on disc.

The best way I can put it is the two hour Mandarin cut is more of a slow burn, while the 83ish minute Cantonese cut is a race to the finish line, prioritizing Jackie's scenes. What I love best about multiple cuts on these releases is the "accidental film school" showing what works and what doesn't in various versions.

[chen lung]

Originally Posted by OldPangYau

That's why I'm so happy we got both cuts on there, as it's been quite a while since the two hour cut's been released... the US Columbia/Tri-Star DVD is one of the last times it got put on disc.

We’ve had a few discs since with that cut, but none with English subtitles and Mandarin.

The best way I can put it is the two hour Mandarin cut is more of a slow burn, while the 83ish minute Cantonese cut is a race to the finish line, prioritizing Jackie's scenes. What I love best about multiple cuts on these releases is the "accidental film school" showing what works and what doesn't in various versions.

That’s true.

Two hours is longer than the average, but it does give depth and explanations. If I was given the job of chopping it down, I don’t think I’d know what to do. What would you do?

[spannick]

Originally Posted by chen lung

We’ve had a few discs since with that cut, but none with English subtitles and Mandarin.


That’s true.

Two hours is longer than the average, but it does give depth and explanations. If I was given the job of chopping it down, I don’t think I’d know what to do. What would you do?

cut even more. the short version is still too boring and Lo Wei.

[chen lung]

Originally Posted by spannick

cut even more. the short version is still too boring and Lo Wei.

I’d tighten some of the lousier choreography, come to think of it.

[Killer Meteor]

Originally Posted by spannick

cut even more. the short version is still too boring and Lo Wei.

Lo Wei was a decent director (or a director of decent films!) during his Shaw period. But he seemed to lose interest as time went on, and New Fist is a prime example. It's stodgy and very talky, which is not something you can usually accuse a kung fu film of being!

[Muck47]

Originally Posted by spannick

cut even more. the short version is still too boring and Lo Wei.

This. There is no other movie out there that I started that often and fell asleep every single time. Owned many different releases of it before already, but doing the comparison between the shorter cut and the original version was indeed the first time I made it to the end credits:
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=815849

Originally Posted by OldPangYau

Kung Fu Bob and I collaborated on an audio commentary as well! Here's the full spec list:

Looking forward to listen to this anyway though. A prime example of the stories behind it being more interesting than the film itself. Even though NFOF admittedly isn't thaaat bad after all as my post may sound. Anyway, as extras have always been rare on these early Jackies, it's nice to see the release is packed with two audio commentaries. Bob's on THE MASTER was entertaining too.

Both commentaries on the longer original version, right?

[Killer Meteor]

This is the guy who dubbed Jackie in New Fist -

Chris Hilton, Hong Kong Voice Actor - YouTube

[OldPangYau]

Originally Posted by Killer Meteor

This is the guy who dubbed Jackie in New Fist -

Chris Hilton, Hong Kong Voice Actor - YouTube

I blanked on it off the top of my head, despite me adding it to IMDb a month or so ago, lol.

[forrealgames145]

Which cut is the best way to experience this film anyway? I mean, if the movie isn't that great, i dont know if i'll be watching it twice. Maybe after some time between viewings