Rank the Terminator Post-T2 sequels now!

[Sage00]

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Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
Terminator Salvation
Terminator: Genesis Space
Terminator: Dark Feces

[UniSol GR77]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I think the OP wanted to encourage more discussion about the other movies in the series. Otherwise the thread would just turn into argument about whether T1 or T2 is better (like most Terminator threads).

You nailed it, PI.

[Damon1281]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I think the OP wanted to encourage more discussion about the other movies in the series. Otherwise the thread would just turn into argument about whether T1 or T2 is better (like most Terminator threads).

Well I, for one, don't even considerate it the best sequel. My ranking:

1. Salvation
2. T2
3. Rise is barely watchable
4. Genisys

5. Dark Fate couldn't have been worse.

[UniSol GR77]

By the way, those are the main "fighters" and "opponents" we got in the franchise:


PROTECTORS

1- Kyle Reese
2- T-800 "Uncle Bob"
3- Sarah Connor
4- T-850
5- Cameron Phillips
6- Derek Reese
7- Marcus Wright
8- Guardian/Pops
9- Grace
10- T-800 "Carl"


HUNTERS

1- T-800
2- T-1000
3- T-X/Terminatrix
4- T-888/Cromartie
5- T-1000 Version 2
6- John Connor/T-3000
7- Rev-9

[robomole]

1) Sarah Connor Chronicles
2) The End of T3
3) Salvation
4) The Rest of T3
5) Dark Fate
6) Genisys

[UniSol GR77]

Originally Posted by FiendishlyInventive

Oh and Dark Fate I guess, despite replacing essentially every element of T2 with a discount version and calling it a day.

They should have elaborated a better version of the "new" Legion future, and even dropped Dani as new savior. Less derivative.

[Jonathan McLeod]

There aren't any Terminator films after Terminator 2: Judgment Day?

[Alister_M]

ROTM
Dark Fate
Salvation
Genisys

[UniSol GR77]

What truly bothers me is the fact that "Dark Fate" was the only flop in the franchise. It hurts me.

[BluRayTim]

Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

By the way, those are the main "fighters" and "opponents" we got in the franchise:


PROTECTORS

1- Kyle Reese
2- T-800 "Uncle Bob"
3- Sarah Connor
4- T-850
5- Cameron Phillips
6- Derek Reese
7- Marcus Wright
8- Guardian/Pops
9- Grace
10- T-800 "Carl"


HUNTERS

1- T-800
2- T-1000
3- T-X/Terminatrix
4- T-888/Cromartie
5- T-1000 Version 2
6- John Connor/T-3000
7- Rev-9

Cromartie/John Henry (played by Garrett Dillahunt) and the T-888 (also known as the Triple 8, played by Shirley Manson) are not the same cyborg. One is male and no more advanced that the T-800 (played by Arnold Schwarzenegger) while the other a female T-1,000 and no more advanced than the Asian and White versions (both male) of that model.

[defwarrior4000]

Salvation
3: ROTM
Dark Fate
Genisys

[UniSol GR77]

Originally Posted by BluRayTim

Cromartie/John Henry (played by Garrett Dillahunt) and the T-888 (also known as the Triple 8, played by Shirley Manson) are not the same cyborg. One is male and no more advanced that the T-800 (played by Arnold Schwarzenegger) while the other a female T-1,000 and no more advanced than the Asian and White versions (both male) of that model.

https://terminator.fandom.com/wiki/Cromartie

[MrClarke]

1) Terminator: Genysis (wasn’t as great as the OGs, but I actually enjoyed it...)
2) Terminator: Dark Fate
3) Terminator 3
4) Terminator: Salvation

None of them lived up to the original two in my opinion though.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by BluRayTim

Cromartie/John Henry (played by Garrett Dillahunt) and the T-888 (also known as the Triple 8, played by Shirley Manson) are not the same cyborg. One is male and no more advanced that the T-800 (played by Arnold Schwarzenegger) while the other a female T-1,000 and no more advanced than the Asian and White versions (both male) of that model.

Cromartie, Cameron, and most of the other Terminators on the show are T-888 models. Shirley Manson's character, Catherine Weaver, is a T-1001.

[BluRayTim]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Cromartie, Cameron, and most of the other Terminators on the show are T-888 models. Shirley Manson's character, Catherine Weaver, is a T-1001.

Then I stand corrected.

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

What truly bothers me is the fact that "Dark Fate" was the only flop in the franchise. It hurts me.

It didn't deserve to be; i'm constantly amazed at how well Genisys did at the box office, even though the film is as turgid as hell and a total narrative dog's dinner. Sure, i understand that people were hurtin' with the death of John Connor in Dark Fate, and Arnold's T800 was crowbarred into the action, but aside from that i have no problems with it. I also went back recently and re-watched Salvation and enjoyed it a heck of a lot more than i did at the cinema. that film definitely deserved a sequel, perhaps with another director taking it forward. T1 and T2? Beyond reproach.

[mpstjohn]

1. Salvation I appreciate the effort to do something different and love the cast. Just wish they went with the original ending and gave us that sequel McG teased at.
2. Rise of the Machines Too familiar but not as stupid or nonsensical as the last two, failed in wanting to be T2 but without any of the punch.
3. Dark Fate A valiant effort to change things up but all they succeeded in doing was basically remake T2 with a girl in the place of a boy.
4. Genysis Oh boy, not only does the twist negate the antagonist's own motive but by having Sarah and Kyle timejump Kyle himself would likely not exist to timejump to begin with.

[UniSol GR77]

Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

It didn't deserve to be; i'm constantly amazed at how well Genisys did at the box office, even though the film is as turgid as hell and a total narrative dog's dinner. Sure, i understand that people were hurtin' with the death of John Connor in Dark Fate, and Arnold's T800 was crowbarred into the action, but aside from that i have no problems with it. I also went back recently and re-watched Salvation and enjoyed it a heck of a lot more than i did at the cinema. that film definitely deserved a sequel, perhaps with another director taking it forward. T1 and T2? Beyond reproach.

Terminator Salvation managed to gross ALMOST twice its budget, and it was a video smash hit anyway (60 million dollars only in the States).

Dark Fate was the only flop of the entire franchise, and that burns me, because it was a very good sci-fi action movie and an entertaining Terminator movie to begin with.

Originally Posted by BluRayTim

Cromartie/John Henry (played by Garrett Dillahunt) and the T-888 (also known as the Triple 8, played by Shirley Manson) are not the same cyborg. One is male and no more advanced that the T-800 (played by Arnold Schwarzenegger) while the other a female T-1,000 and no more advanced than the Asian and White versions (both male) of that model.

No, you're wrong.
Cromartie is a T-888.
Cameron Phillips is a T-900.
Catherine Weaver is a T-1001, not a T-888.

[TheWildWhelk]

The financial situation with Terminator: Salvation was rather convoluted in the best of terms, with the film making a solid profit after all finances were accounted for, but complications outside of that forced the rights holders to bail out on the franchise. Damn shame, as there was most definitely a huge potential to complete the trilogy so that the Terminator story would be finished as a 5 film sequence, if they chose to ignore T3.

[CreasyBear]

Surprisingly enough, Terminator Salvation actually made more worldwide than Star Trek, released the same summer. It was a solid enough movie. I would have welcomed a sequel.