42" Pioneer Kuro in 720p. I really really want this TV, BUT... - Blu-ray Forum

johnnierocco · 01-23-2008, 01:31 PM

Its not 1080p.

They have a 1080P in 50" I believe but I just cant afford $5K on a TV. Well on anything right now, I have a baby on that way. But I could do $2K with my tax return coming. Now I have read that there isnt any difference with a TV of this quality doing 720p vs 1080p under 50" screen sizes. I have also read that a Pionner/Samsing/Panny 720p will look way better than some lower end TV that is 1080p because resolution is not the be all end all of picture quality. Knowing all this I still am on the fence about buying the Kuro in 720p. Is it ME?

I just feel like Im cheating myself out of some of my BluRay goodness.

Is that the case here or would a TV of that quality and of 42" look amazing no matter what? It looked breathtakingly beautiful in Best Buy. I couldnt believe it was 720p but for the price I kind of thought it might be.

richteer · 01-23-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnierocco

Its not 1080p.

They have a 1080P in 50" I believe but I just cant afford $5K on a TV. Well on anything right now, I have a baby on that way. But I could do $2K with my tax return coming. Now I have read that there isnt any difference with a TV of this quality doing 720p vs 1080p under 50" screen sizes. I have also read that a Pionner/Samsing/Panny 720p will look way better than some lower end TV that is 1080p because resolution is not the be all end all of picture quality. Knowing all this I still am on the fence about buying the Kuro in 720p. Is it ME?

Not just you. I'm trying to convince my wife that we need a 60" Pioneer (the 6010FD)... (I'd go for the Pioneer Elite, but with the Extreme Contrast Kuros only a year or so away, I'll go for the cheaper option for now.)

BLU STEAL · 01-23-2008, 05:11 PM

the 720p pioneer was just tested against 6 1080p tvs including a 1080p panny in this months issue of home theater magazine. The pioneer was the hands down victor

johnnierocco · 01-23-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BLU STEAL

the 720p pioneer was just tested against 6 1080p tvs including a 1080p panny in this months issue of home theater magazine. The pioneer was the hands down victor

That settles it then!

I really love that TV and it unreal how natural and clear things look on it. Its like looking out a window. A very clean and clear window too! Thanks for the input.

werewuf · 01-23-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnierocco

That settles it then!

I really love that TV and it unreal how natural and clear things look on it. Its like looking out a window. A very clean and clear window too! Thanks for the input.

I have the Elite version, the Pro-950HD and the Home Theater Mag review confirmed what I had believed for awhile: that the 720p (actually 768p) Pioneers have a superior video payback than most 1080p tv's out there. I absolutely love this panel and blu-rays look unbelievable on it!

love blu or go home! · 01-23-2008, 07:02 PM

I have the Pioneer PDP-6010FD 60" 1080P plasma and I paid $4,500 not sure where you saw a 50" for 5,000. You like the Pioneer PDP-5010FD? You can get it for about $3,200 here in the city. I've seen the 42" and at that size I don't think you would be able to see a difference if they made a 1080P model. But remember don't buy Pioneer online, they only have a warranty if purchased from a local store.

richteer · 01-23-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by richteer

Not just you. I'm trying to convince my wife that we need a 60" Pioneer (the 6010FD)... (I'd go for the Pioneer Elite, but with the Extreme Contrast Kuros only a year or so away, I'll go for the cheaper option for now.)

I know that quoting myself is bad form, but I've just re-read the extreme contrast thread. The über-Kuros are probably 2 or 3 years away, so I'm beginning to wonder if I should save up the extra shekels for the 60" Pioneer Elite PRO-150FD (or whatever has replaced it one said shekels have been saved up!). Hmm, decisions, decisions...

Mensrea69 · 01-24-2008, 12:14 AM

Hey- johnnierocco

Check out this for $2k and 50' and1080p

http://dealsouthonline.com/Product.asp?Prodid=262

Brain Sturgeon · 01-24-2008, 12:26 AM

I have the Elite Kuro 42" in our Hearth room and it has a spectacular picture. I compared it to similarly sized 1080p XBR(3,4,5) LCD sets from Sony and preferred the Kuro. The Sonys were a bit sharper, but I preferred the blacks, colors, and motion on the Kuro. Let your eyes decide, but I don't think you can go wrong with this set.

btf1980 · 01-24-2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mensrea69

Hey- johnnierocco

Check out this for $2k and 50' and1080p

http://dealsouthonline.com/Product.asp?Prodid=262

They are not an authorized Pioneer dealer. Buy from them at your own risk.

Beefbowl · 01-24-2008, 02:15 AM

How much is the 720p 42" kuro going for? I was looking at the panny 42" that was 1080p and was rated the best tv for that size.

Papi4baby · 01-24-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mensrea69

Hey- johnnierocco

Check out this for $2k and 50' and1080p

http://dealsouthonline.com/Product.asp?Prodid=262

It says $2800 plus.

bootman · 01-23-2008, 07:14 PM

It really comes down to how far will you sit from it.
Look at my sig for a link.

slick one · 02-04-2008, 10:04 PM

5080....$2218.87 out the door
5010....$3565.32 out the door

hmmmm
do i take the 5080 back for swap or keep knowing there is a 1080p out there?

Thinking is..... keep it! wont see difference from outside of 6 feet!

PLEASE give me input cause I have wrestled with this all weekend being home with walking pneumonia....

Poor me!

richteer · 02-04-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by slick one

5080....$2218.87 out the door
5010....$3565.32 out the door

hmmmm
do i take the 5080 back for swap or keep knowing there is a 1080p out there?

Thinking is..... keep it! wont see difference from outside of 6 feet!

PLEASE give me input cause I have wrestled with this all weekend being home with walking pneumonia....

Poor me!

Get the 5010. That way you'll have no regrets!

elwaylite · 02-05-2008, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by slick one

5080....$2218.87 out the door
5010....$3565.32 out the door

hmmmm
do i take the 5080 back for swap or keep knowing there is a 1080p out there?

Thinking is..... keep it! wont see difference from outside of 6 feet!

PLEASE give me input cause I have wrestled with this all weekend being home with walking pneumonia....

Poor me!

If you sit over 8 feet away, the $1300 is a WASTE. Buy the 5080.

JJ · 02-05-2008, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by elwaylite

If you sit over 8 feet away, the $1300 is a WASTE. Buy the 5080.

Yea, I'm with him there. But I need to stop drooling over the 5080.

slick one · 02-05-2008, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by elwaylite

If you sit over 8 feet away, the $1300 is a WASTE. Buy the 5080.

went to BB and took pearl harbor blu with me....
still in living room sits the 5080 and there "she" will stay.

did a lil comparrison on other 1080p's while there...
results...LOL
still in the living room sits the 5080 and there "she" will stay.
Thanks

btf1980 · 02-05-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by elwaylite

If you sit over 8 feet away, the $1300 is a WASTE. Buy the 5080.

People always say this, but I think it depends on your vision. Before I got glasses, I would have agreed with you. But at 8 ft out now, SDE is an issue for me. However, if it is not for you, then the 5080 is a hell of a display and is really a steal at it's current price.

elwaylite · 02-05-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by btf1980

People always say this, but I think it depends on your vision. Before I got glasses, I would have agreed with you. But at 8 ft out now, SDE is an issue for me. However, if it is not for you, then the 5080 is a hell of a display and is really a steal at it's current price.

Youll get SDE on a 720p, but not too close.

Let me rephrase my previous statement, you wont notice anywhere near a $1300 improvement.

Tough decision for me will be 5080 vs 2008 30000:1 CR Panasonic 1080p.

01-23-2008, 01:31 PM	#1
johnnierocco Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008	42" Pioneer Kuro in 720p. I really really want this TV, BUT... Its not 1080p. They have a 1080P in 50" I believe but I just cant afford $5K on a TV. Well on anything right now, I have a baby on that way. But I could do $2K with my tax return coming. Now I have read that there isnt any difference with a TV of this quality doing 720p vs 1080p under 50" screen sizes. I have also read that a Pionner/Samsing/Panny 720p will look way better than some lower end TV that is 1080p because resolution is not the be all end all of picture quality. Knowing all this I still am on the fence about buying the Kuro in 720p. Is it ME? I just feel like Im cheating myself out of some of my BluRay goodness. Is that the case here or would a TV of that quality and of 42" look amazing no matter what? It looked breathtakingly beautiful in Best Buy. I couldnt believe it was 720p but for the price I kind of thought it might be.

02-04-2008, 10:04 PM	#14
slick one Member Member since:Dec 2007	5080 vs. 5010 pioneers 5080....$2218.87 out the door 5010....$3565.32 out the door hmmmm do i take the 5080 back for swap or keep knowing there is a 1080p out there? Thinking is..... keep it! wont see difference from outside of 6 feet! PLEASE give me input cause I have wrestled with this all weekend being home with walking pneumonia.... Poor me!

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01-23-2008, 05:11 PM	#3
BLU STEAL Active Member Member since:Oct 2007	the 720p pioneer was just tested against 6 1080p tvs including a 1080p panny in this months issue of home theater magazine. The pioneer was the hands down victor

01-23-2008, 07:02 PM	#6
love blu or go home! Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:NYC, New York Trading Score:3	I have the Pioneer PDP-6010FD 60" 1080P plasma and I paid $4,500 not sure where you saw a 50" for 5,000. You like the Pioneer PDP-5010FD? You can get it for about $3,200 here in the city. I've seen the 42" and at that size I don't think you would be able to see a difference if they made a 1080P model. But remember don't buy Pioneer online, they only have a warranty if purchased from a local store.

01-24-2008, 12:14 AM	#8
Mensrea69 Member Member since:Oct 2007	Hey- johnnierocco Check out this for $2k and 50' and1080p http://dealsouthonline.com/Product.asp?Prodid=262

01-24-2008, 12:26 AM	#9
Brain Sturgeon Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Sep 2007 Home Theater Gallery:39	I have the Elite Kuro 42" in our Hearth room and it has a spectacular picture. I compared it to similarly sized 1080p XBR(3,4,5) LCD sets from Sony and preferred the Kuro. The Sonys were a bit sharper, but I preferred the blacks, colors, and motion on the Kuro. Let your eyes decide, but I don't think you can go wrong with this set.

01-24-2008, 02:15 AM	#11
Beefbowl Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Guam Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:749 Trading Score:20	How much is the 720p 42" kuro going for? I was looking at the panny 42" that was 1080p and was rated the best tv for that size.

01-23-2008, 07:14 PM	#13
bootman Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Burghs	It really comes down to how far will you sit from it. Look at my sig for a link.

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