Box Office Showdown (5/5 - 5/7) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, Love Again

[BluBonnet]

GotG Vol 3 will make more money worldwide on its opening weekend than Shazam 2 did on its entire theatrical run.

Someone better tell WB that Marvel is in trouble!!!

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

GotG Vol 3 will make more money worldwide on its opening weekend than Shazam 2 did on its entire theatrical run.

Someone better tell WB that Marvel is in trouble!!!

Little do you know, there's gonna be a Shazam challenge next weekend...

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Joey9775

Little do you know, there's gonna be a Shazam challenge next weekend...

That Jamie Foxx thing?

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

GotG Vol 3 will make more money worldwide on its opening weekend than Shazam 2 did on its entire theatrical run.

Someone better tell WB that Marvel is in trouble!!!

So correct. But so is the fact that Gauardians of The Galaxy vol 3's opening is pi-- poor. Marvel has a real problem on it's hand. That cannot swept under the fan boy rug buddy boy.

[Jennifer Lawrence Fan]

Originally Posted by John1701D

Just can't get over the mega successful franchise vs the one they loved petering out after just one installment. So salty.

So many flavors and he chooses to be salty. Probably still mad Captain Marvel made more opening weekend globally than Alita did during its total run.

[Underworld54]

I'm really not JLF. Haven't you learned by now your cults Alita jokes don't bother me, and they certainly aren't the least bit creative, or funny. If you have an issue with me address me personally, instead of using your cowardly pot shots.

[John1701D]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

You're assuming I have an issue with the GOTG franchise...I don't. I own and love both 1 & 2 and own Hot Toys Starlord and Gamora. You however, must interject petty insults when all I've done is discuss the box-office numbers. So sad dude, do better.

You're right, I should do better. Lowering myself to your level was a mistake. Have a nice night, maybe go enjoy a movie.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by John1701D

You're right, I should do better. Lowering myself to your level was a mistake. Have a nice night, maybe go enjoy a movie.

My level...lol.

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

GotG Vol 3 will make more money worldwide on its opening weekend than Shazam 2 did on its entire theatrical run.

Someone better tell WB that Marvel is in trouble!!!

Shazam 2 was so bad, they needed to pay people to watch it, the new Guardians movie looks very good indeed, but we need to stop pretending, as the Marvel movies are not quite the box office draws they once where.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by jonmoz

Shazam 2 was so bad, they needed to pay people to watch it, the new Guardians movie looks very good indeed, but we need to stop pretending, as the Marvel movies are not quite the box office draws they once where.

Show me a movie franchise that has sustained a better record over a 15-year span.

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

Show me a movie franchise that has sustained a better record over a 15-year span.

Why are you comparing things, my post simply stated the Marvel movies are not doing quite as well s the once did, not that they were in anyway worse movies, I am a big fan of the galaxy films and a lot of the Marvel stuff, but that does not alter facts.

So if we find other 15 year old movie franchises, that have equally started to sell less, or even worse, how does that make things any better for the Marvel franchises current situation, just curious.

[BluBonnet]

You're missing the point completely.

GotG 3 will do far more business than any other movie that was the 32nd installment of any Hollywood franchise.

That's because no Hollywood franchise has ever gotten to a 32nd installment to begin with, so what Marvel's accomplished is already record-breaking in its own right.

We're both looking at the same glass. You see the glass as half-empty and I see it as half-full.

Do you think any other franchise has a better track record than Marvel? If you don't, then that just means no one in Hollywood has figured out a better way to build and maintain a movie franchise than Marvel has.

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

You're missing the point completely.

GotG 3 will do far more business than any other movie that was the 32nd installment of any Hollywood franchise.

That's because no Hollywood franchise has ever gotten to a 32nd installment to begin with, so what Marvel's accomplished is already record-breaking in its own right.

We're both looking at the same glass. You see the glass as half-empty and I see it as half-full.

Do you think any other franchise has a better track record than Marvel? If you don't, then that just means no one in Hollywood has figured out a better way to build and maintain a movie franchise than Marvel has.

You seem to be defending this way too much imho, it's not about other movie studio franchises. You are using this argument as a deflection from answering the real question. Which is why are these Marvel movies doing worse numbers at the box office, in the case of this movie, it does not seem to be quality related. So it has to be down to different factors.

And simply stating that other movie franchises are doing worse, does not answer the question.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by jonmoz

[Show spoiler]You seem to be defending this way too much imho, it's not about other movie studio franchises. You are using this argument as a deflection from answering the real question. Which is why are these Marvel movies doing worse numbers at the box office, in the case of this movie, it does not seem to be quality related. So it has to be down to different factors.

Yeah, you're right, the MCU is dead.

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

Yeah, you're right, the MCU is dead.

Are you a Disney Marvel shareholder, as you seem very very touchy when anyone dares to mention that these movies are not doing as well as they once where.

When did I say the Marvel franchise was dead, as you say they have just set a new record, by releasing their 32nd movie, which no other movie franchise has managed.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by jonmoz

[Show spoiler]I you a Disney Marvel shareholder, as you seem very very touchy when anyone dares to mention, that these movies are not doing as well as they once where.

When did I say the Marvel franchise was dead, as you say they have just set a new record, by releasing their 32nd movie, which no other movie franchise has managed.

Unfortunately for me, the relationship goes the other way around: Disney gets my money, and in steadily increasing amounts...

I have no reason to be "touchy" about anything because the movies continue to be extremely fun. I have been having a blast with each and every one of them.

But you seem to be unable/unwilling to see that the box-office numbers do not tell the whole story, and that is really unfortunate. My interest in the movies (and shows) hasn't diminished at all - it has actually only increased since Avengers 3 and 4. At the same time, my repeat viewings are just a fraction of what they were before 2020, because once the movie is no longer playing on premium screens, I'll just wait until it is on D+.

So I'm spending less at theater, but more - way more, actually - in D+ and merch. I feel like I'm getting a better deal now than in pre-pandemic times. I don't know how many other fans may be in the same boat, but I know from my personal experience that just looking at what I spend in theater tickets truly doesn't tell the whole story.

And even then - this franchise continues to outperform any other Hollywood franchise out there. The people on the boards who are obsessed with box-office numbers don't seem to spend as much time thinking about the franchises that have really hit the skids, like DCEU and Wizarding World.

And even with those franchises, the studio isn't simply going to let that IP wither, they are going to do a full reboot with the new DCU and they're going to do Harry Potter for the small screen. And those are among the film franchises that have really been flopping hard lately.

The studios care about their valued IPs and they're going to continue doing whatever they can to keep them going, most likely many of them will still be going when we're dead.

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

Unfortunately for me, the relationship goes the other way around: Disney gets my money, and in steadily increasing amounts...

I have no reason to be "touchy" about anything because the movies continue to be extremely fun. I have been having a blast with each and every one of them.

But you seem to be unable/unwilling to see that the box-office numbers do not tell the whole story, and that is really unfortunate. My interest in the movies (and shows) hasn't diminished at all - it has actually only increased since Avengers 3 and 4. At the same time, my repeat viewings are just a fraction of what they were before 2020, because once the movie is no longer playing on premium screens, I'll just wait until it is on D+.

So I'm spending less at theater, but more - way more, actually - in D+ and merch. I feel like I'm getting a better deal now than in pre-pandemic times. I don't know how many other fans may be in the same boat, but I know from my personal experience that just looking at what I spend in theater tickets truly doesn't tell the whole story.

And even then - this franchise continues to outperform any other Hollywood franchise out there. The people on the boards who are obsessed with box-office numbers don't seem to spend as much time thinking about the franchises that have really hit the skids, like DCEU and Wizarding World.

And even with those franchises, the studio isn't simply going to let that IP wither, they are going to do a full reboot with the new DCU and they're going to do Harry Potter for the small screen. And those are among the film franchises that have really been flopping hard lately.

The studios care about their valued IPs and they're going to continue doing whatever they can to keep them going, most likely many of them will still be going when we're dead.

Well at least you have gave an answer this time, yes it could be people are streaming more and visiting the theater less, although that does not explain big box office hits like the new Mario movie and Avatar, as people are obviously willing to go to the movie theater, if you give them a reason to do so.

I must confess to not watching everything Marvel puts out, only the movies that interest me, and the guardians franchise is a firm favorite of mine, so will be getting to the cinema to see this at some point next week, and it looks pretty good from what I have seen thus far.

You are of course correct in the fact box office figures should not matter as to ones enjoyment of a movie, but they are still important no matter what franchise it is, and lets be honest here, we all like to see a beloved movie do well, and will shout about it when it does... this of course means accepting the flip side of the coin as well.

[BluBonnet]

People are far more selective now as to what to watch in theaters than before the pandemic. Some movies can still make a lot of money, sure, but overall the total yearly box-office is still way down from what it used to be before 2020. That means that on a yearly basis, people are still spending less going to the movies than they used to. There has been a real shift in consumer spending habits.

Also, D+ is the studio-owned streamer with the most subscribers, so in an odd way that may occasionally give other streamers a bit of an edge, as less people subscribe to their service. And then there's stuff like Avatar, which with 3D and HFR, really was a theatrical experience that can't even remotely be duplicated at home

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

People are far more selective now as to what to watch in theaters than before the pandemic. Some movies can still make a lot of money, sure, but overall the total yearly box-office is still way down from what it used to be before 2020. That means that on a yearly basis, people are still spending less going to the movies than they used to. There has been a real shift in consumer spending habits.

Also, D+ is the studio-owned streamer with the most subscribers, so in an odd way that may occasionally give other streamers a bit of an edge, as less people subscribe to their service. And then there's stuff like Avatar, which with 3D and HFR, really was a theatrical experience that can't even remotely be duplicated at home

There is no doubt theaters are struggling a little more than before the pandemic, this is down to a combination of factors, streaming has to be one of them, but consumer confidence has also played a big part. Hopefully now with the World health organization suggesting we are out of the pandemic, things will improve.

I still feel if a movie gives enough reasons for people to go and see it at the theater they will, if not many will simply wait for it to stream. Disney are in a very fortunate position with this, delay the streaming date and the box office will improve, as long as you get all the other factors right.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by jonmoz

There is no doubt theaters are struggling a little more than before the pandemic, this is down to a combination of factors, streaming has to be one of them, but consumer confidence has also played a big part. Hopefully now with the World health organization suggesting we are out of the pandemic, things will improve.

I still feel if a movie gives enough reasons for people to go and see it at the theater they will, if not many will simply wait for it to stream. Disney are in a very fortunate position with this, delay the streaming date and the box office will improve, as long as you get all the other factors right.

Box office is predicted to be 10 billion by year end, it’s rising considerably.

Cinema will be just fine in my opinion.

I wouldn’t waste time with Bonnet mate, he isn’t capable of having a reasonable, considered conversation about Disney/Marvel . Basically they are brilliant and awesome and DC and virtually every other non Disney franchise is rubbish. That’s the gist.