No job was lost because they made a static image. And once again, the Freman's eyes could have have been colored by someone in the special effects department....guess they didn't want to pay them for that?
Unless you can prove the point that someone lost a job, your only argument is "It looks bad". Which...it's a tongue in cheek no-budget horror movie...
But they literally did, they used AI to help track eye movement as best as possible to help keep it more consistent. Someone still colored their eyes. Something tells me you aren't doing your research.
But they literally did, they used AI to help track eye movement as best as possible to help keep it more consistent. Someone still colored their eyes. Something tells me you aren't doing your research.
It was used to assist, which means it made the work easier, which means less man hours, which means less people are needed.
If you argue otherwise, you need to PROVE someone did not get work due to 3 static images being made with AI in this movie. If you cannot, then it was a tool used just as it was in Dune.
BOTH FILMS used AI, but you're picking and choosing when you feel it's good or bad. You're fine with billionaires using it to assist, but a low budget movie uses it and it's full on boycott. Cutting off your nose to spite your face. You want the film to succeed in your own words, yet you and others are deliberately trying to harm it
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The theater about 30 minutes away just added a 10:30 am showing of this tomorrow. I'm going to head over for that, and then haul ass over to catch Immaculate at 12:10. Should be just enough time with the 20+ minutes of AMC pre-show crap before Immaculate.
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It was original as hell, which is insane when you consider how stale found footage films have become.
The performances were all top notch, especially David Dastmalchian. He has consistently been a stand out supporting player, but he absolutely nailed his performance in this film. It was a Cillian Murphy in Oppenheimer level jump to lead star performance.
It did enough throughout to keep you interested and where most found footage movies fail to stick the landing, often ending on something and then just cut to black, this film absolutely nails the ending.
And the use of AI, just perfection! (I'm only joking, I saw a few posts talking about AI, so I threw that in! I don't really get the AI thing. If it was for those still frames, def could have gotten a graphic designer to do that for 20 bucks! Hell, I could have done those and I'm an amateur photoshopper at best! While I don't support AI in films(as a member of SAG-Aftra, it is something that very much worries me, even with this new deal), I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face. I'm extremely glad I saw this movie tonight in a near sold out theater. It was great. (But if you choose to not see it cuz of the AI... you do you!)
I don't mind if AI is used in movies if it's to help create special effects or something like that. In that sense it's like "smarter CGI". BUT, what I would mind, and definitely would consider a boycott, is if AI is used to create a screenplay for instance. Or if they decided to make a sequel to, let's say, "It's A Wonderful Life" using the original actors rendered by AI. Original characters wholly created by CGI (like Jar Jar Binks) is fine. Or if they would use AI to fix an error that an actor did that you couldn't re-shoot for whatever reason. But if they used AI to bring back a deceased actor to play a major part I wouldn't be happy with that. I wasn't too thrilled when they used CGI to bring back Peter Cushing in Rogue One. They could have used an actor that looks similar to him and used make up to make him look more like Cushing. I would have gotten the gist of it. The scene with
[Show spoiler]Princess Leia at the end is fine because it was very brief and Carrie Fisher was still alive to have given them permission
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What I know about the AI that was used in "Late Night With The Devil" I'm okay with. Even though I feel they took the lazy route. I look forward to watching this.
I had a blast with this film. Dastmalchian was great, and particularly Ingrid Torelli as young "Lilly" in her first big screen role. She nailed the perfect balance between mischievousness and innocence. I thought it was a cool touch that the filming would go slightly wonky for a second or two every so often when she was being recorded.
For me this movie felt fresh and different. I hope all horror fans will give it a try.
Think it’s been mentioned on this thread already but a really great spiritual sibling to Ghostwatch and also Inside No. 9’s The Devil of Christmas.
David Dastmalchian was terrific (as were the rest of the cast), and it was brilliant made, love the care and detail that had been put into the replication of the period setting. Will definitely be watching again in future, have a feeling there’s probably some hidden creepy Easter eggs that I missed the first time around.
It wasn’t overly scary, but when it comes to horror well drawn characters and story count for so much.
[QUOTE You'll notice too that those films aren't splashing sloppy AI generated images on the screen, which this film is. It's lazy and dumb looking, without any purpose or artistry behind it.[/QUOTE]
I’m guessing you’re younger than I am. I’m 62, so this is EXACTLY how late night tv was in the ‘70s. Cheesy pun cutaway screens were the norm and this is pretty much what they looked like. If fit in perfectly with the time period. If it was some amazing piece of CGI art, it would have completely taken it out of the setting and time period.
I saw this and really enjoyed it. I enjoyed Godzilla Minus One Minus Color for the same reason. Watching that was like sitting in my room watching my 12 inch black and white tube tv. It felt very nostalgic for me. I thought the cut aways they had in LNWTD fit perfectly. And if I’m not mistaken, AI images don’t generate themselves. Somebody has to assemble the images, they get reworked multiple times until they are correct. Honestly, it probably took longer to do them this way. AI isn’t the boogeyman that some people purport it to be.
I can't believe people losing their minds over some graphics being AI generated. Get over yourselves. I'm all for it. And now, just because of all these crybabies, I hope filmmakers use MORE of it just to spite them. Let the keyboard warriors boycott all they want. Most of the people jumping on it were never going to go see this movie anyway.
For several years during the 1970s, Jack Delroy, played by David Dastmalchian, enjoyed success with his late-night variety talk show, Night Owls, although the television ratings for his program continuously lagged behind those of his top competitor, The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson. After his wife tragically died from cancer, Delroy struggled to regain footing as the ratings of his show slipped farther and farther from the top rankings. On the night of October 31, 1977, however, the host strived to jump back into the limelight by airing an occult-themed episode that featured guest appearances from a renowned psychic named Christou, a former magician-turned-professional skeptic named Carmichael, a parapsychologist author named June Ross-Mitchell, and June's subject, Lilly, a young girl who was the sole survivor of a Satanic cult that met its end in a house fire. The events that transpired on that fateful Halloween evening are now documented by way of the camera footage from the episode itself and by way of off-air recordings that were filmed backstage during the commercial breaks.
The 2023 found footage horror movie, Late Night with the Devil, written, directed, and edited by Cameron and Colin Cairnes as a co-production of Australia, the United States, and the United Arab Emirates, has now received a widespread theatrical release after premiering at film festivals last year. After a brief expository collage, narrated superbly by Michael Ironside (Top Gun, V), lays out the history of Jack Delroy's career, his wife's passing, and his alleged association with a California cult of wealthy elites, we the viewers are ushered into the the master tape replay of the episode and its behind-the-scenes moments, all of which lead to a terrifyingly frenzied conclusion.
I find it uncanny how even the goriest scary movies are sometimes graced with an undercurrent of reassurance. In this instance, Late Night with the Devil kicks off by showing us news clips from the turbulent time window circa the late 1960s and early 1970s, namely images of the Vietnam Conflict, of President Nixon, and of the uneasy zeitgeist of the era in the wake of the Charles Manson cult murders, as a prelude to explain how television programs like The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson and the fictional Night Owls used humor during their nightly episodes to assuage an apprehensive public from real-life unrest. While watching these opening 1970s news clips, I reflected on the current atmosphere today in 2024, when doomsayers on either side of the political spectrum are predicting disaster if their favored Presidential candidate does not win in the upcoming election, when conflicts in Ukraine, Russia, and the Middle East are reporting terrible casualties on a daily basis, when Americans are worried about job security, COVID, or the drug addiction epidemic, and when unhinged lunatic extremists are shouting about how “woke culture” is going to lead to the End of Days. I am reminded that, while there is plenty of horror and plenty of reason to be uneasy today in 2024, our society was beset by similarly fearsome circumstances during the 1970s, complete with pundits telling us that the sky was falling. We lived through the 1970s and we will live through our present times. However frightening our current circumstances are, the world will eventually pass these things, as though it were passing a painful kidney stone, and the world will keep spinning, continuing to move forward in an overall positive way as it always has. Things may get worse before they get better, but they will eventually get better. Everything will be okay. As the lines of an old Billy Joel song go, “the good ole days weren't always good and tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems.”
Nothing is okay when the credits roll at the end of Late Night with the Devil, but the way that this film plays out is so gleefully rambunctious in its unpredictable mayhem that I was smiling as I walked out of the theater. I was disoriented a bit while exiting the film, because, without revealing spoilers, the conclusion is highly disorienting in an intense way, but I was still overjoyed. Although the found-footage genre, which gained momentum after the 1999 classic, The Blair Witch Project (my favorite horror movie of the 1990s decade), has almost been mined to death over the past two decades, I love experiencing its true triumphs. This new movie reminded me several times of another found footage favorite of mine, the 2010 film, The Last Exorcism. Everything about it is a tremendously exhilarating adrenaline surge.
Although actor David Dastmalchian is not exactly a household name, you all recognize his face. With a number of supporting appearances in the likes of The Dark Knight (2008), Ant-Man (2015), and Dune (2021), he is one of today's most notable “Oh yeah!...THAT guy!” screen presences. With his lead part as our beloved show host in Late Night with the Devil, Dastmalchian has splendidly come into his own. He magnificently hits all of the right notes here as his Jack Delroy hams it up with jokes in front of his studio audience, as he tactfully interviews his guests onstage, and as he nervously assures both crew and guests backstage during the sponsor ad breaks. I love one particular scene, when he urges one of his Halloween guests to show off to the viewers, although he knows in the back of his mind that this particular stunt may end in a grisly way for everyone.
Those of you who are of age like me will be amused to no end by the extent to which Late Night with the Devil so authentically depicts the vibe of 1970s talk shows. May we continue to live in interesting times, because we always have.
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