Independence Day - Reviews and Reaction Thread - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

MOFO · 03-12-2008, 02:07 PM

I can't believe the Blu-ray reviewer gave the video a 4.5 rating after admitting that it was less than stellar. The truth is, in terms of video quality, this release is only slightly better than the SD version. Don't believe me. Check it out for yourself. I, Robot, on the other hand is significantly improved over the SD release.

jk1138 · 03-12-2008, 02:13 PM

Although I do not agree with all of what you said, I have issue with the seen where Randy Quaid is flying his jet into the space ship. Ever other seen looks flawless but when they go to him is so grainy, it looks like they did not fix the PQ on this. It is only that part, has anyone else noticed this? As for the rest of the movie, the PQ is great but lets you see the cheesy special effect, that now look very dated, oh well the movie is what 12 years old, I guess it hold up okay, but for a big blockbuster title it should have gotten better treatment. All in all I say a 4.5 was reasonable. The cheesy acting and lines however....

DetroitSportsFan · 03-12-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

You can not tell me that there are no behind the scenes featurettes or deleted scenes or whatever floating around out there.
I will be the bad guy here and say that honestly I wish that I has waited until a week or two from now when this is available for 19.99 easily online.

My copy is arriving today, but I have to agree.

There's no reason why they couldn't have at least included the extended version.

Razzy · 03-12-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

I will be the bad guy here and say that honestly I wish that I has waited until a week or two from now when this is available for 19.99 easily online.

That's what I usually do. Wait a week or 2 until the price comes down online. The key is patience.

Zvi · 03-12-2008, 04:23 PM

I watched it yesterday. IMHO PQ was very good. ANd I agree with JK, lets you see outdated CGI.

bluskiff · 03-12-2008, 04:23 PM

I thought id4 looked great Just remember to turn off your noise reduction on your tv. It is a matter of taste you mite not like it turned off but I find it make the picture soft and you loose sharpness when its on . My tv is the sony sxrd a2020 50.

Daredevil666 · 03-12-2008, 04:57 PM

I don't see what the fuss is about with extras, first usually with Blu-Ray, they will includes the SD extras on the same disc, and this will be at the expense of the PQ and AQ.
Second if you are a fan of the movie, you probably own the DVD set already, and the extras being shot in SD, comes to the same quality you would have them on Blu. Just keep the extra disc, or rip it to a DVD-R, put it in the blu box, sell the DVD and you got your double disc set with all the extras.

However, I'm all for inclusion of audio commentaries and new HD shot extras.

PIHB · 03-12-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Razzy

That's what I usually do. Wait a week or 2 until the price comes down online. The key is patience.

i dont know about that, fox titles are a ***** for coming down in price unless you can snag it on ebay

klam · 03-12-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaphod

It sucks that Amazon has been shipping pre-orders on Monday lately. With two day shipping I get it the day after release.

I have amazon prime and I got ID4 on the release date yesterday the 11th. Maybe Prime members have priority?

I'm waiting till this weekend to enjoy ID4, can't wait.

dobyblue · 03-12-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MOFO

I can't believe the Blu-ray reviewer gave the video a 4.5 rating after admitting that it was less than stellar. The truth is, in terms of video quality, this release is only slightly better than the SD version. Don't believe me. Check it out for yourself.

So far most people disagree with you.

High Def Digest: - http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/612/...ndenceday.html

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I was very impressed with the cleanliness of the print here

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I was very happy with this 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 encode (which gets a BD-50 dual-layer disc in which to stretch its legs). Colors are easily the best I've seen in any video version of the film, especially the improved fleshtones and noticeably superior primaries. Detail is also very good, especially in daylight sequences, which often boast great depth and readily apparent dimensionality.

HiDef Preview: - http://hidefpreview.com/review.php?u=6

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Fox did an EXCELLENT job with this transfer. This film is encoded using AVC on to a BD50 and used DTS-HD MA for sound. The colors are sharp and vivid and really "pop" off the screen.

Home Theater Spot: - http://www.hometheaterspot.com/fusio...90/pid/842776/

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In looking back at how ID4 looked on the best DVD transfer that I saw (the 5 Star Collection) and now looking at the blu-ray disc in high definition there is no comparison.

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I can tell you that this film has never looked better. The majority of the time it looked great and offered solid video reproduction with plenty of eye popping visuals and three dimensionality. I am excited and thrilled to add this to my blu-ray collection. Woo Hoo !

Slightly better than the SD version? I think you need someone to check you set-up.

phranctoast · 03-12-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by klam

I have amazon prime and I got ID4 on the release date yesterday the 11th. Maybe Prime members have priority?

I'm waiting till this weekend to enjoy ID4, can't wait.

I have prime as well and always receive mine on release day. Still getting the 10% discount as well

tron3 · 03-12-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

I ROBOT LOOKS FANASTIC! THE AUDIO IS A++ PIC A+++

Id go with I robot over ID4 anyday. Seriously.

I'll have my,Robot by Monday with Ice Age 1 & 2. I was going to order ID4, but just couldn't feel it this time out. Maybe next time.

newguy7 · 03-12-2008, 06:42 PM

I noticed in movies from the last 10-15 years when a special effect beings the screen becomes grainy. Before it was never noticeable i guess but now...it all comes to light. I noticed it on Stargate too, the picture is gorgeous but suddenly when a special effect is coming everything becomes grainy (the Rah scene) Same for T2.

Razzy · 03-12-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PIHB

i dont know about that, fox titles are a ***** for coming down in price unless you can snag it on ebay

Exactly.

JackStraw · 03-12-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

My copy is arriving today, but I have to agree.

There's no reason why they couldn't have at least included the extended version.

Given blu's capacity I'll agree with this. The only thing is that in owning the SD DVD version of the extended edition, nothing story-wise was enhanced with those scenes. If anything, I found it detracted from the movie. That's why I had no problems in buying this version.

Still, for those who would've wanted both versions, I'm sure space was very little issue here.

DetroitSportsFan · 03-12-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MOFO

I can't believe the Blu-ray reviewer gave the video a 4.5 rating after admitting that it was less than stellar. The truth is, in terms of video quality, this release is only slightly better than the SD version.

Nice first post.

It appears that everyone else disagrees with you. I guess they're all wrong, huh?

DAMNSAM77 · 03-12-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PIHB

i dont know about that, fox titles are a ***** for coming down in price unless you can snag it on ebay

Well they are starting to wake up and smell the coffee, several catalog titles have dropped to $29.99 from $39.99.

I bought Me, Myself, and Irene last week for a ridiculous $27.99 because I like the movie, lucky for me I always check the Hot Dealz forum and it turns out Amazon dropped the price to $19.99 so I got my $8 back

What I think Fox should do is have all catalog BD releases, whether they came out today or last year go for a $24.99-$29.99 MSRP, so we can get them for $15-$20 on a regular basis from Amazon and other sites.

New Releases on the other hand, I can see why they charge the $34.99-$39.99 premium MSRP, thats pretty much the case with Sony, MGM, Warner, Disney. I will give it a year or two before you see $19.99 MSRPs on BD movies as a norm.

P.S: My wife was able to find both ID4 and I,Robot at the BestBuy store near her work this afternoon. She was even able to get the cashier to match Walmart's $27 sale price and still use the $5 Off BestBuy BD coupon

So $22.87 each which is a pretty good deal. So I will watch ID4 tonight to see what all the fuss is about with PQ

Blu Falcon · 03-13-2008, 03:06 AM

I already wrote my review of ID4 on this site.

owa · 03-13-2008, 03:12 AM

The below is what I wrote in the comments section (just copied and pasted here):

The Definition of Summer Blockbuster
When this movie hit the theaters, I stood in lines that were wrapping around the building in order to be one of the first to see it. By the end of ID4's first week I had seen the movie 5 times, having to stand in long lines each time. IMO, this movie is the definition of summer blockbuster (a.k.a. popcorn flick) and the excitement surrounding it at the time, was just unreal.

If you couldn't tell already, this movie is one of my all-time favorites so I've looked forward to its release on various forms of media over the years. VHS was adequate but I had to purchase two copies since repeated viewings were wearing out the tape. The DVD release took care of that issue and upped the ante with better video and sound as well as providing two versions of the film. At the time, it was also a perfect demo disc for showing off your subwoofer.

Now we have the blu-ray release of ID4, using media that finally allows the movie to look and sound as good as it possibly can. For me, it's an understatement to say this movie was the most highly anticipated hi-def release but I was also a little worried about how the movie would hold up with the increased fidelity of blu-ray. I think it's safe to say, the blu-ray release of ID4 does not disappoint. The movie/special effects hold up surprising well and it looks and sounds far better than any of the DVD releases of ID4. The blu-ray also provides the capability to save all of your settings (audio, language, bookmarks, etc.) and can be restored on subsequent viewings. A nice touch. The only disappointment that some might have is that the blu-ray doesn't include the extended scenes or all the extras from the DVD release. It does provide some new extras but it would have more appealing to those that enjoy the special features/extras if they had included everything in the DVD release as well.

Anyway, if you like summer blockbusters and sci-fi, this movie is a must have (imo). The movie and special effects hold up well for a movie it's age. It has never looked or sounded better.

krazeyeyez · 03-13-2008, 09:49 AM

i think some people get overly critical of some blu's because flaws ARE more noticable, but go back and check out the SD version with that critical eye and you'll see many many more flaws and the ones you don't see are just being overshadowed by the lack of detail and flaws on a whole, not to say there are not a few sub par blu's out there.

just got this in the mail today, gonna try and get id4 and i robot in tomorrow. perfect films to play with my new sound system.

03-12-2008, 02:07 PM	#41
MOFO New Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:2	Independence Day Disappointment I can't believe the Blu-ray reviewer gave the video a 4.5 rating after admitting that it was less than stellar. The truth is, in terms of video quality, this release is only slightly better than the SD version. Don't believe me. Check it out for yourself. I, Robot, on the other hand is significantly improved over the SD release.

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03-12-2008, 02:13 PM	#42
jk1138 Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:FL Blu-ray collection:32 Blu-ray reviews:59 Trading Score:27	Although I do not agree with all of what you said, I have issue with the seen where Randy Quaid is flying his jet into the space ship. Ever other seen looks flawless but when they go to him is so grainy, it looks like they did not fix the PQ on this. It is only that part, has anyone else noticed this? As for the rest of the movie, the PQ is great but lets you see the cheesy special effect, that now look very dated, oh well the movie is what 12 years old, I guess it hold up okay, but for a big blockbuster title it should have gotten better treatment. All in all I say a 4.5 was reasonable. The cheesy acting and lines however....

03-12-2008, 04:23 PM	#45
Zvi Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Blu-ray collection:121	I watched it yesterday. IMHO PQ was very good. ANd I agree with JK, lets you see outdated CGI.

03-12-2008, 04:23 PM	#46
bluskiff Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 23	I thought id4 looked great Just remember to turn off your noise reduction on your tv. It is a matter of taste you mite not like it turned off but I find it make the picture soft and you loose sharpness when its on . My tv is the sony sxrd a2020 50.

03-12-2008, 04:57 PM	#47
Daredevil666 Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Future Earth Blu-ray reviews:1	I don't see what the fuss is about with extras, first usually with Blu-Ray, they will includes the SD extras on the same disc, and this will be at the expense of the PQ and AQ. Second if you are a fan of the movie, you probably own the DVD set already, and the extras being shot in SD, comes to the same quality you would have them on Blu. Just keep the extra disc, or rip it to a DVD-R, put it in the blu box, sell the DVD and you got your double disc set with all the extras. However, I'm all for inclusion of audio commentaries and new HD shot extras.

03-12-2008, 06:42 PM	#53
newguy7 Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:116	I noticed in movies from the last 10-15 years when a special effect beings the screen becomes grainy. Before it was never noticeable i guess but now...it all comes to light. I noticed it on Stargate too, the picture is gorgeous but suddenly when a special effect is coming everything becomes grainy (the Rah scene) Same for T2.

03-13-2008, 03:06 AM	#58
Blu Falcon Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:MD Blu-ray reviews: 9 Trading Score:1	I already wrote my review of ID4 on this site.

03-13-2008, 03:12 AM	#59
owa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 96	The below is what I wrote in the comments section (just copied and pasted here): The Definition of Summer Blockbuster When this movie hit the theaters, I stood in lines that were wrapping around the building in order to be one of the first to see it. By the end of ID4's first week I had seen the movie 5 times, having to stand in long lines each time. IMO, this movie is the definition of summer blockbuster (a.k.a. popcorn flick) and the excitement surrounding it at the time, was just unreal. If you couldn't tell already, this movie is one of my all-time favorites so I've looked forward to its release on various forms of media over the years. VHS was adequate but I had to purchase two copies since repeated viewings were wearing out the tape. The DVD release took care of that issue and upped the ante with better video and sound as well as providing two versions of the film. At the time, it was also a perfect demo disc for showing off your subwoofer. Now we have the blu-ray release of ID4, using media that finally allows the movie to look and sound as good as it possibly can. For me, it's an understatement to say this movie was the most highly anticipated hi-def release but I was also a little worried about how the movie would hold up with the increased fidelity of blu-ray. I think it's safe to say, the blu-ray release of ID4 does not disappoint. The movie/special effects hold up surprising well and it looks and sounds far better than any of the DVD releases of ID4. The blu-ray also provides the capability to save all of your settings (audio, language, bookmarks, etc.) and can be restored on subsequent viewings. A nice touch. The only disappointment that some might have is that the blu-ray doesn't include the extended scenes or all the extras from the DVD release. It does provide some new extras but it would have more appealing to those that enjoy the special features/extras if they had included everything in the DVD release as well. Anyway, if you like summer blockbusters and sci-fi, this movie is a must have (imo). The movie and special effects hold up well for a movie it's age. It has never looked or sounded better.

03-13-2008, 09:49 AM	#60
krazeyeyez Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:the guy on the couch Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:287 Blu-ray reviews:4	i think some people get overly critical of some blu's because flaws ARE more noticable, but go back and check out the SD version with that critical eye and you'll see many many more flaws and the ones you don't see are just being overshadowed by the lack of detail and flaws on a whole, not to say there are not a few sub par blu's out there. just got this in the mail today, gonna try and get id4 and i robot in tomorrow. perfect films to play with my new sound system.

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