Hell has frozen over: A mea culpa from 5thDanMaster aka Oshodi (Red Ant)

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Spankey

We all have. No one would have said this, even now, if HD-DVD were still in play. That is why I hold them in contempt. They show no "courage" in forming thought out opinions of their own. They are cowards who want to pretend they didn't fight a battle based on untruths and exaggerations. AKA Lies...

Bingo!

[I DO BLU]

Like i said about Lee when he showed up i do not forget what he did or said

and was continuing it still. Most of us that went though all those hd dvd fan

clowns have no reason to give anyone of them a get out of jail free card because they now see the

light, I been callled many names by these people and have been cussed out and such so i do not nor

will i forget it. I belive in eye for a eye. I know for fact that oshodi was 5thdanmaster for a long time

but could not prove it because he changed ip services. Him and that low life piece of dud nfinty need

to be banned from the internet period. Just because he nows says i was right does not erase the

past.

[dakota81]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

I beli[e]ve in eye for a eye.

But it's an anonymous internet without consequence. There is no such thing as "an eye for an eye". Nobody has to learn anything. Self admittance like 5thDanMaster just did, that's as much as you can ever get out of these guys, whether he means it or not.

[I DO BLU]

Originally Posted by dakota81

But it's an anonymous internet without consequence. There is no such thing as "an eye for an eye". Nobody has to learn anything.

Let me put it this way then "What comes Around goes around"

[dakota81]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

Let me put it this way then "What comes Around goes around"

I don't believe in karma, though.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by dakota81

But it's an anonymous internet without consequence.

By and large, this is true and I think everyone knows that.

There is no such thing as "an eye for an eye". Nobody has to learn anything. Self admittance like 5thDanMaster just did, that's as much as you can ever get out of these guys, whether he means it or not.

In this case? True.

The funny thing is: Some of the worst proponents out there have been using their real names and/or their companies' names.

In some instances, like Amir, there were consequences and there may be even more down the road that none of us may ever be privy to.

Some of these other folks are rather distinct and easy to spot after a point regardless of how many times they change their screen names.

Originally Posted by dakota81

I don't believe in karma, though.

No offense, but your beliefs are irrelevant.

That doesn't mean there aren't real consequences to action and words spoken. The Internet is not as nebulous and anonymous as some think, especially when people are dumb enough to volunteer personal information.

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

Let me put it this way then "What comes Around goes around"

This is has already started to happen to some of these people and it's just a matter of time before it happens to some others.

It's not karma. It's:"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."

[I DO BLU]

Originally Posted by dakota81

But it's an anonymous internet without consequence. There is no such thing as "an eye for an eye". Nobody has to learn anything. Self admittance like 5thDanMaster just did, that's as much as you can ever get out of these guys, whether he means it or not.

Thats is the problem no ones takes responabilty for there actions. Do you

know what this clown did? He went to CIrcuit City and passed out flyers

about hd dvd to people and how blu-ray was bad. There needs to

repurctutions for his actions. Amir no matter what he says was fired i know

for a fact.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

There needs to repurctutions for his actions. Amir no matter what he says was fired i know

for a fact.

He certainly was demoted and I thought the timing of all that was very telling.

See? Real name. Real person. Real consequence regardless of whether someone believes it or not.

There's a lot of things that some of these people did that you don't do in the corporate world and burn your bridges and expect everything to be peachy.

Even I know that there has been and will be fallout for a while with certain people and possibly even entities and we will probably never know it all.

[I DO BLU]

Originally Posted by JTK

He certainly was demoted and I thought the timing of all that was very telling.

See? Real name. Real person. Real consequence regardless of whether someone believes it or not.

When you purpsosely hurt a company like many of thsese shills did they can

be held accountable in court. If you don't think they can you need to read

the law. Robert George is one that sony should revoke his license from for his remarks about Sony products and blu-ray.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

When you purpsosely hurt a company like many of thsese shills did they can

be held accountable in court. If you don't think they can you need to read

the law. Robert George is one that sony should revoke his license from for his remarks about Sony products and blu-ray.

^^ That's one I just can't get over.

For two years now: Real name, real credentials, known geographical location. He constantly brags about "I'm a Sony and Panasonic dealer but... <insert red FUD and bullshit here>"

^^ How the axe hasn't fallen on him yet from both Sony and Panasonic, at least in terms of yanking their licenses, is beyond me.

Of course then again...if it happened it's not like he'd ever admitted. I don't think guy could tell the truth about anything if his life depended on it. It doesn't help that he's a nasty and arrogant person, to boot.

I reported him myself a few times to both Sony and Panasonic.

[dakota81]

I'd love to see them all held accountable for their actions.

But I only see it happening to those who directly risked someone else's money, Amir, executives at Viacom, Warner, Universal, certain "insider" journalists. But even someone like Robert Zohn, doesn't he own his own store? So he gambled his own money on HD DVD, his business will likely continue on without a hitch.

Any of these little guys being held accountable? Hardly. I'd say there's too much to risk on negative publicity for not enough gains from a court.

And at the end of it all, Blu-ray IS the format of the future, it's just too much energy for me to continue hating other people. I don't have to accept them, I'll just ignore them.


But then of course I don't have any financial interest in Blu-ray.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by dakota81

I'd love to see them all held accountable for their actions.

But I only see it happening to those who directly risked someone else's money, Amir, executives at Viacom, Warner, Universal, certain "insider" journalists. But even someone like Robert Zohn, doesn't he own his own store? So he gambled his own money on HD DVD, his business will likely continue on without a hitch.

Any of these little guys being held accountable? Hardly. I'd say there's too much to risk on negative publicity for not enough gains from a court.

And at the end of it all, Blu-ray IS the format of the future, it's just too much energy for me to continue hating other people. I don't have to accept them, I'll just ignore them.

^^ Again, in most cases, this is the realistic take on the whole thing.

[I DO BLU]

Originally Posted by dakota81

I'd love to see them all held accountable for their actions.

But I only see it happening to those who directly risked someone else's money, Amir, executives at Viacom, Warner, Universal, certain "insider" journalists. But even someone like Robert Zohn, doesn't he own his own store? So he gambled his own money on HD DVD, his business will likely continue on without a hitch.

Any of these little guys being held accountable? Hardly. I'd say there's too much to risk on negative publicity for not enough gains from a court.

And at the end of it all, Blu-ray IS the format of the future, it's just too much energy for me to continue hating other people. I don't have to accept them, I'll just ignore them.

But it is hard to ignore them if they did come here. Pay back is a ***** and they will deserve anything that comes there way from many of us.

Lee came here and I went after him like he did us over at other places and was spewing the same bs. You yourself saw it and also wanted to get rid of him.

Theres certain ones i will not sit and let come here and make peace. they have no place here.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

But it is hard to ignore them if they did come here. Pay back is a ***** and they will deserve anything that comes there way from many of us.

Lee came here and I went after him like he did us over at other places and was spewing the same bs. You yourself saw it and also wanted to get rid of him.

Theres certain ones i will not sit and let come here and make peace. they have no place here.

Obviously if they come in here using one of their notorious screen names/real names then this is the way it will be.

It's really as simple as changing a screen name and watching what you write. I suspect we probably have had several of those kinds of people here for quite some time.

But you know what? We're back to this: Some of these people just spew garbage no matter what screen name they use. So then you deal with them.

[I DO BLU]

Originally Posted by JTK

Obviously if they come in here using one of their notorious screen names/real names then this is the way it will be.

It's really as simple as changing a screen name and watching what you write. I suspect we probably have had several of those kinds of people here for quite some time.

But you know what? We're back to this: Some of these people just spew garbage no matter what screen name they use. So then you deal with them.

Yes and do not forget the one who came here saying warner was going blu exclusive. Mr lee stewart was the one egging him on if i remember correcty and even admitted it.

[GTP]

Originally Posted by JTK

No he wouldn't. That person is the near the top of the list of a relative select few that will not ever see a warm welcome by some of us.

Why? Because by his own admission...he was an unholy terror that was deliberately lying and misleading others.

Why would anyone embrace someone or something like that?

Like Lee Stewart and some others..."oshodi" was/is someone who should have been compensated for the viral marketing campaign he ran anyways. If he wasn't an official viral marketer, he really may as well have been.

^^ This is the concept that some of the wishy washy apologists and "Let's love and hug everyone now" folks just don't get.

It's not about "oh, we hate anyone that supported HD-DVD or bought into it." Not at all. I personally couldn't care less if someone bought or owns some HD-DVDs or not.

Some of us simply will not embrace people that DELIBERATELY lied and misled others for months or even a few years. Two different kinds of animals.

None of this persons numerous board names will ever be welcomed by me either.
With this person posting complete B.S since before either format even arrived under mod protection at AVS , should equal an automatic ban Upon registration here IMO.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by GTP

None of this persons numerous board names will ever be welcomed by me either.
With this person posting complete B.S since before either format even arrived under mod protection at AVS , should equal an automatic ban Upon registration here IMO.

Easily, along with everyone else on this list: http://members.cox.net/btbuck1/Tier.JPG

At least tier 0 people and probably tier 1 people.

After that, strict discretion. But since I'm not a mod here, what can ya do?

[w_tanoto]

Originally Posted by Spankey

Now Kosty sees no real issues with Blu-ray. Blah Blah Blah.

Kosty
RG
Tivo Dealer
Oshodi
Dead Meat
Lee Stewart
Amir
GizmoDVD
Michael HD-DVD
HTF
HDD
DVD-Talk
David Vaughn

The list of has beens is even bigger than that. They will garner no respect from me.

is there any actual list of these people in this site, because 5th dan master said there is a list, and he is listed #2. I never took any note here, as I hardly interested in those baffoon

[I DO BLU]

Look Up at the post above yours, ^^

[w_tanoto]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

Look Up at the post above yours, ^^

thanks..... did not notice it. really funny....