The Power of ONE Red Ant - Blu-ray Forum

Blu Titan · 06-17-2008, 07:55 PM

Ok...A lot of us are aware that Home Media Magazine routinelly runs polls in its website, and the results are published in their weekly magazine edition(Hence my excuse for posting this thread under "Blu-ray Technology and News). Last night I noticed a new poll in the website with the following heading: "What is the role of Blu-ray in the home entertainment market?" The voting options are: To replace DVD, To supplement DVD, and It's a niche product without wide appeal. I voted for the first option and the results were around: To replace DVD 56%,To supplement DVD 7%, and It's a niche product without wide appeal 37%. I checked a couple ot times last night and this morning and the ratios remained the same with very little "action". However, everything changed at around 8 AM today. I noticed that the % for "It's a niche product without wide appeal 37%" had increased; in fact as I refreshed the page it just kept increasing. "Something" just did NOT seem normal. So I voted again for "To Replaced DVD" and noticed that the vote was counted again. Apparently, you can vote as many times as you want and the poll will count the vote. I did my "format war" imitation and voted for 10 minutes, but it was an exercise in futility. The opposing voter (Red ant) voted and voted for three straight hours (I checked occasionally, and he was still at it) until the option of "It's a niche product without wide appeal" had over 60% of the votes

Then he stopped voting, guess he accomplished his mission. Sorry for the rant, just wanted to make a couple of points. FIRST, the polls from HMM are 100% garbage and do not deserve ANY consideration. SECOND, there are STILL some isolated Red Ants that really DESPISE Blu-ray.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/

SS316SRV · 06-17-2008, 08:01 PM

Well it was on line poll done through a magazine that is geared to a niche readership. Also, if it was just one red ant, or a thousand red ants, or genuine opinion (because that is possible as well), it doesn't matter. This red ant can vote in an online poll done my home theater magazine all he wants, they still won't be able to buy any more HD DVD discs or players.

dpomp · 06-17-2008, 08:11 PM

i'm getting us back on top.

sorry i have no life right now. i just got back from deployment and i don't go back to work for another week.

scweb13 · 06-17-2008, 08:17 PM

Are you sure that it was just one person or are you paranoid? Who cares anyways. Just let it go. If you're happy with Blu-ray, isn't that all that matters?

haushausman · 06-17-2008, 08:18 PM

Wow... that red ant is such a moron. Does he honestly think fudging the poll will have any affect on Blu-ray?

I voted a bunch of times anyways... haha.

Nerdkiller likes BD · 06-17-2008, 08:20 PM

Let me guess, once he finishes with his compressed HD download, he'd be rather angry to find that he won't get any money for returning it, if that is possible.

Scooby Blu · 06-17-2008, 08:20 PM

Niche market my ass !!!

dpomp · 06-17-2008, 08:29 PM

i gave up. gonna go watch a BD

maybe the webmaster can put a disclaimer in there.

"51.79 point margin of error"

Blu-dock Saint · 06-17-2008, 08:33 PM

I wouldnt let it bother you too much, theres a lot of other polls that people unfairly vote on many times, its happend in the past to Blu ray as well, and look where the format stands now, not like one poll changes the course of whats going on.

mkelley · 06-17-2008, 08:38 PM

Considering the last option isn't even a real world opinion (a "niche" product that the studios are just hoping is going to save their bacon?) it's a very odd poll to begin with.

I voted a few times just to see if I could tell how many votes were being counted, and it looks like (presently) there are only about 1000 votes anyway -- if that truly is (more or less) the number who voted it's statistically insignificant anyway (and since they do allow duplicate votes to be cast it's far lower than that). I mean, I have 10s of thousands of hits a day on my poor site. Looks as if the site is pretty irrelevant in terms of visitors.

Rovic · 06-17-2008, 08:56 PM

Well i did all i could for 20 mins straight...not that it matters to me much because we know whats really going to happen with bd...but i just had time to kill....

Blu-dock Saint · 06-17-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rovic

Well i did all i could for 20 mins straight...not that it matters to me much because we know whats really going to happen with bd...but i just had time to kill....

Rofl, well looks like you helped get it above 50% though, that was fast....so it may have been one person voting against it before.

CptGreedle · 06-17-2008, 09:18 PM

he set up a bot to do it. That is the only thing I can think of.
You should tell the magazine and let them know what you observed. You might look bad too for following suit, but it can't hurt, the worse and best thing they can do is void it out and not print it in the magazine.

Blu-dock Saint · 06-17-2008, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

he set up a bot to do it. That is the only thing I can think of.
You should tell the magazine and let them know what you observed. You might look bad too for following suit, but it can't hurt, the worse and best thing they can do is void it out and not print it in the magazine.

I dont think they would print it in the magazine would they?

blu-rayfan101 · 06-17-2008, 09:24 PM

Red Ant, you know your cool when...

bkbluray · 06-17-2008, 09:33 PM

I don't think Blu-ray is a "niche market" when its growing at a faster rate than DVD already...

NutsAboutPS3 · 06-17-2008, 09:40 PM

I'm surprised the power of Blu-ray.com hasn't got "To replace DVD" into the 90s yet.

rubberghost · 06-17-2008, 09:59 PM

red ant? that's kinda funny. i have a domain name that i purchased called blu-ant.

Blu Titan · 06-17-2008, 10:03 PM

The outcome of the poll is irrelevant. I was just amazed of how some individuals still cling to their biases. Anyways, some of our guys did a number on the poll.

SeahawxBlu · 06-17-2008, 10:08 PM

Don't let it bug ya. Sounds like some teenager who's got nothing better to do than try to skew the results of a poll. Probably bragging to all his other buddies that he's doing it too...

Reminds me of a couple of HD-DED dopes over at Engadget that spew crap about BD all the time. The sad thing is that people care what they think and actually respond to their rants. Someone should tell them just to leave the room and lets the adults talk. HD-DED is dead and will not be resurrected. No number of polls will make it so.

06-17-2008, 07:55 PM	#1
Blu Titan Super Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Edo, Land of the Samurai Home Theater Gallery:42 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:2864 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:92	The Power of ONE Red Ant Ok...A lot of us are aware that Home Media Magazine routinelly runs polls in its website, and the results are published in their weekly magazine edition(Hence my excuse for posting this thread under "Blu-ray Technology and News). Last night I noticed a new poll in the website with the following heading: "What is the role of Blu-ray in the home entertainment market?" The voting options are: To replace DVD, To supplement DVD, and It's a niche product without wide appeal. I voted for the first option and the results were around: To replace DVD 56%,To supplement DVD 7%, and It's a niche product without wide appeal 37%. I checked a couple ot times last night and this morning and the ratios remained the same with very little "action". However, everything changed at around 8 AM today. I noticed that the % for "It's a niche product without wide appeal 37%" had increased; in fact as I refreshed the page it just kept increasing. "Something" just did NOT seem normal. So I voted again for "To Replaced DVD" and noticed that the vote was counted again. Apparently, you can vote as many times as you want and the poll will count the vote. I did my "format war" imitation and voted for 10 minutes, but it was an exercise in futility. The opposing voter (Red ant) voted and voted for three straight hours (I checked occasionally, and he was still at it) until the option of "It's a niche product without wide appeal" had over 60% of the votes Then he stopped voting, guess he accomplished his mission. Sorry for the rant, just wanted to make a couple of points. FIRST, the polls from HMM are 100% garbage and do not deserve ANY consideration. SECOND, there are STILL some isolated Red Ants that really DESPISE Blu-ray. http://www.homemediamagazine.com/

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06-17-2008, 08:01 PM	#2
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	Well it was on line poll done through a magazine that is geared to a niche readership. Also, if it was just one red ant, or a thousand red ants, or genuine opinion (because that is possible as well), it doesn't matter. This red ant can vote in an online poll done my home theater magazine all he wants, they still won't be able to buy any more HD DVD discs or players.

06-17-2008, 08:11 PM	#3
dpomp ₯ Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Texas PSN: dpomp131 Blu-ray collection:231 Trading Score:19	i'm getting us back on top. sorry i have no life right now. i just got back from deployment and i don't go back to work for another week.

06-17-2008, 08:17 PM	#4
scweb13 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Everett, WA 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:512 DVD collection:29 Trading Score:4	Are you sure that it was just one person or are you paranoid? Who cares anyways. Just let it go. If you're happy with Blu-ray, isn't that all that matters?

06-17-2008, 08:18 PM	#5
haushausman Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Chicago Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:343 Blu-ray reviews: 5	Wow... that red ant is such a moron. Does he honestly think fudging the poll will have any affect on Blu-ray? I voted a bunch of times anyways... haha.

06-17-2008, 08:20 PM	#6
Nerdkiller likes BD Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Wrestling in Ireland. PSNetwork: Nerdkiller316PSN Nerds beaten up: Loads 4K collection:75 Blu-ray collection:880 Trading Score:1	Let me guess, once he finishes with his compressed HD download, he'd be rather angry to find that he won't get any money for returning it, if that is possible.

06-17-2008, 08:20 PM	#7
Scooby Blu Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Apr 2008 Home Theater Gallery:7	Niche market my ass !!!

06-17-2008, 08:29 PM	#8
dpomp ₯ Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Texas PSN: dpomp131 Blu-ray collection:231 Trading Score:19	i gave up. gonna go watch a BD maybe the webmaster can put a disclaimer in there. "51.79 point margin of error"

06-17-2008, 08:33 PM	#9
Blu-dock Saint Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Michigan Blu-ray collection:47 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:67	I wouldnt let it bother you too much, theres a lot of other polls that people unfairly vote on many times, its happend in the past to Blu ray as well, and look where the format stands now, not like one poll changes the course of whats going on.

06-17-2008, 08:38 PM	#10
mkelley Active Member Member since:Dec 2007	Considering the last option isn't even a real world opinion (a "niche" product that the studios are just hoping is going to save their bacon?) it's a very odd poll to begin with. I voted a few times just to see if I could tell how many votes were being counted, and it looks like (presently) there are only about 1000 votes anyway -- if that truly is (more or less) the number who voted it's statistically insignificant anyway (and since they do allow duplicate votes to be cast it's far lower than that). I mean, I have 10s of thousands of hits a day on my poor site. Looks as if the site is pretty irrelevant in terms of visitors.

06-17-2008, 08:56 PM	#11
Rovic Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Orange County, CA Home Theater Gallery:22 Blu-ray collection:252 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Well i did all i could for 20 mins straight...not that it matters to me much because we know whats really going to happen with bd...but i just had time to kill....

06-17-2008, 09:18 PM	#13
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	he set up a bot to do it. That is the only thing I can think of. You should tell the magazine and let them know what you observed. You might look bad too for following suit, but it can't hurt, the worse and best thing they can do is void it out and not print it in the magazine.

06-17-2008, 09:24 PM	#15
blu-rayfan101 Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The Universe.	Red Ant, you know your cool when...

06-17-2008, 09:33 PM	#16
bkbluray Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:MN Home Theater Gallery:57 Blu-ray collection:185 Blu-ray reviews:25	I don't think Blu-ray is a "niche market" when its growing at a faster rate than DVD already...

06-17-2008, 09:40 PM	#17
NutsAboutPS3 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray reviews:1	I'm surprised the power of Blu-ray.com hasn't got "To replace DVD" into the 90s yet.

06-17-2008, 09:59 PM	#18
rubberghost Expert Member Member since:May 2008 Location:the sub-matrix Blu-ray reviews:4	red ant? that's kinda funny. i have a domain name that i purchased called blu-ant.

06-17-2008, 10:03 PM	#19
Blu Titan Super Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Edo, Land of the Samurai Home Theater Gallery:42 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:2864 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:92	The outcome of the poll is irrelevant. I was just amazed of how some individuals still cling to their biases. Anyways, some of our guys did a number on the poll.

06-17-2008, 10:08 PM	#20
SeahawxBlu Special Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Redmond, WA	Don't let it bug ya. Sounds like some teenager who's got nothing better to do than try to skew the results of a poll. Probably bragging to all his other buddies that he's doing it too... Reminds me of a couple of HD-DED dopes over at Engadget that spew crap about BD all the time. The sad thing is that people care what they think and actually respond to their rants. Someone should tell them just to leave the room and lets the adults talk. HD-DED is dead and will not be resurrected. No number of polls will make it so.

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