605 AND DTS HD MA or TrueHD (How is it displayed) - Blu-ray Forum

Bullseye · 04-15-2008, 12:11 PM

I have the 605 and both the BD30 and PS3. I will be uploading the new FW updates to the PS3 tonight. I am running both players to the amp via HDMi.

How do I get the DTS HD MA and TrueHD to actually show up on the amp. At the moment it shows up as small red text above DVD.

Cheers in advance.

Zaphod · 04-15-2008, 12:13 PM

It shouldn't show anything but Multichannel, since the PS3 is sending it out as PCM, since the PS3 is the decoder. The PS3 cannot bitstream so you won't get DTS-HD MA to show anywhere on your receiver.

I don't have the BD-30 so I cannot answer how that one would work out...

darkpoet25 · 04-15-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaphod

It shouldn't show anything but Multichannel, since the PS3 is sending it out as PCM, since the PS3 is the decoder. The PS3 cannot bitstream so you won't get DTS-HD MA to show anywhere on your receiver.

I don't have the BD-30 so I cannot answer how that one would work out...

This is true as I have a PS3 and the 805. The BD-30 will probably show the DTS or True HD logos however as that can bitstream the audio.

Bullseye · 04-15-2008, 12:23 PM

Well all i have sofar is PCM with the PS3 but the BD30 does show TrueHD or DTS HD MA but in small red text. Just wondering how can the larger text be shown instead of the word "DVD".

At least I know where i stand with the PS3 thanks for that.

aygie · 04-15-2008, 12:25 PM

Interesting thing with the PS3 and DTS HD MA, if you set it to Bitstream (after todays update) it will still only send out the core at 1.5mbps.

Ok so why does this matter? Well if you really want to know what you've been missing you can now switch between the core and HDMA on the PS3. Try it out, i was shocked at how much better Ronin sounded.

Zaphod · 04-15-2008, 12:31 PM

I remember all those early pictures of the receiver showing DTS-MA listed on the display. I wonder that when they made the final design, that was removed, and then they just went with the little displays. It would make since for them to use it for their display units so they could tout the receiver as being DTS-MA certified for decoding...I wonder...

On page 55 of the US English manual, it states to cycle through the additional on-screen dispays, press the display button...

It goes from:

DVD 48
DolbyD 5.1
DVD Dolby D

By their example anyways, maybe that will work...

Petra_Kalbrain · 04-15-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aygie

Interesting thing with the PS3 and DTS HD MA, if you set it to Bitstream (after todays update) it will still only send out the core at 1.5mbps.

Ok so why does this matter? Well if you really want to know what you've been missing you can now switch between the core and HDMA on the PS3. Try it out, i was shocked at how much better Ronin sounded.

Really?!?!? That is AWESOME to know! I was wondering how I was going to sample between the core DTS and DTS HD MA tracks when showing off how HD audio is all important to the experience. You wouldn't believe how many people tell me that I wasted thousands of dollars on my surround sound because "surround sound doesn't really do anything to a movie".

It's time to edumacte thems!!!

darkpoet25 · 04-15-2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Well all i have sofar is PCM with the PS3 but the BD30 does show TrueHD or DTS HD MA but in small red text. Just wondering how can the larger text be shown instead of the word "DVD".

At least I know where i stand with the PS3 thanks for that.

Not sure how the display works, sorry I can't help with that. On a side note, be careful when Bitstreaming with you BD-30. There is a thread here, the name of which escapes me at the moment, that talked about how Bitstreaming DTS-MA can cause a loud pop(like a gun), damaging your speakers. I will do a search and post that link here for you to read over. The PS3 is safe however as it decodes internally.

WaRe · 04-18-2008, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkpoet25

Not sure how the display works, sorry I can't help with that. On a side note, be careful when Bitstreaming with you BD-30. There is a thread here, the name of which escapes me at the moment, that talked about how Bitstreaming DTS-MA can cause a loud pop(like a gun), damaging your speakers. I will do a search and post that link here for you to read over. The PS3 is safe however as it decodes internally.

check out this link also.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=83474

blu-backer · 04-23-2008, 08:39 PM

With the PS3, if you set it to Linear PCM, it is going to decode the DTS-HDMA or TrueHD internally before sending it to the 605. When the 605 receives it, the audio is already decoded, so it will display Multichannel PCM on the receiver itself, but it will be playing the DTS-HDMA or TrueHD sound.

Meanwhile, on the PS3, if you hit the display button (triangle, I believe), you should see that the movie is using the DTS-HDMA or TrueHD aduio track.

Now, if you set the PS3 to Bitstream, it will send the unprocessed data to the 605, so the 605 will need to decode it. However, currently, the PS3 can only bitstream TrueHD and NOT DTS-HDMA. If you do have a TrueHD disc and set the PS3 to Bitstream, the 605 will show TrueHD. Unfortunately, if you leave it on Bitstream with a DTS-HDMA disc, you will only be sending the core DTS soundtrack, not the DTS-HDMA track, so the 605 will only show DTS, I believe.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

04-15-2008, 12:11 PM	#1
Bullseye Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Ireland Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:760 Blu-ray reviews: 44	605 AND DTS HD MA or TrueHD (How is it displayed) I have the 605 and both the BD30 and PS3. I will be uploading the new FW updates to the PS3 tonight. I am running both players to the amp via HDMi. How do I get the DTS HD MA and TrueHD to actually show up on the amp. At the moment it shows up as small red text above DVD. Cheers in advance.

04-15-2008, 12:31 PM	#6
Zaphod Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2007 Location:A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. Blu-ray collection:350 Trading Score:4	I remember all those early pictures of the receiver showing DTS-MA listed on the display. I wonder that when they made the final design, that was removed, and then they just went with the little displays. It would make since for them to use it for their display units so they could tout the receiver as being DTS-MA certified for decoding...I wonder... On page 55 of the US English manual, it states to cycle through the additional on-screen dispays, press the display button... It goes from: DVD 48 DolbyD 5.1 DVD Dolby D By their example anyways, maybe that will work... Last edited by Zaphod; 04-15-2008 at 12:35 PM.

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04-15-2008, 12:13 PM	#2
Zaphod Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2007 Location:A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. Blu-ray collection:350 Trading Score:4	It shouldn't show anything but Multichannel, since the PS3 is sending it out as PCM, since the PS3 is the decoder. The PS3 cannot bitstream so you won't get DTS-HD MA to show anywhere on your receiver. I don't have the BD-30 so I cannot answer how that one would work out...

04-15-2008, 12:23 PM	#4
Bullseye Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Ireland Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:760 Blu-ray reviews: 44	Well all i have sofar is PCM with the PS3 but the BD30 does show TrueHD or DTS HD MA but in small red text. Just wondering how can the larger text be shown instead of the word "DVD". At least I know where i stand with the PS3 thanks for that.

04-15-2008, 12:25 PM	#5
aygie Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:PSN Network: Aygie Blu-ray collection:99	Interesting thing with the PS3 and DTS HD MA, if you set it to Bitstream (after todays update) it will still only send out the core at 1.5mbps. Ok so why does this matter? Well if you really want to know what you've been missing you can now switch between the core and HDMA on the PS3. Try it out, i was shocked at how much better Ronin sounded.

04-23-2008, 08:39 PM	#10
blu-backer Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:118	With the PS3, if you set it to Linear PCM, it is going to decode the DTS-HDMA or TrueHD internally before sending it to the 605. When the 605 receives it, the audio is already decoded, so it will display Multichannel PCM on the receiver itself, but it will be playing the DTS-HDMA or TrueHD sound. Meanwhile, on the PS3, if you hit the display button (triangle, I believe), you should see that the movie is using the DTS-HDMA or TrueHD aduio track. Now, if you set the PS3 to Bitstream, it will send the unprocessed data to the 605, so the 605 will need to decode it. However, currently, the PS3 can only bitstream TrueHD and NOT DTS-HDMA. If you do have a TrueHD disc and set the PS3 to Bitstream, the 605 will show TrueHD. Unfortunately, if you leave it on Bitstream with a DTS-HDMA disc, you will only be sending the core DTS soundtrack, not the DTS-HDMA track, so the 605 will only show DTS, I believe. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

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