1080p worth it?

[J6P]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

if it's not noticeable at a given viewing distance....then you're paying for something you're not using........

I have a 37" 720p at 10-12 feet viewing distance it's fine..... and I don't want a 1080p (if I did, I'd buy one) I have three LCDs and they're all 720p (One Aquos 37", Two 32" samsungs)

When I have room for a projector or a 60" plasma, I'll get 1080p

Oh, I totally agree that if you are 12 feet away from a 37" set you aren't going to get the benefit. I just don't understand the purchasing decision. By that I'm not talking directly to you, I wouldn't presume to tell you how to spend your money.

Just, for me, I wouldn't spend money on any set unless I could purchase a 1080p in sufficient size to give me the full Blu-ray experience. This is for a primary set, mind you, not a bedroom or secondary set.

To me that would be like throwing good money after bad. I'm perfectly content with my three year old 46" 720p from about 12 feet away until I can get that big XBR of my dreams. Putting money on an additional 720p set at this point would just be pushing my desired set farther down the road.

[ixlegitballinxl]

42inch + go 1080p

[dobyblue]

...and so it continues.

[ixlegitballinxl]

3 years ago 1080i was the best thing since sliced bread.......now its 720p vs 1080p....bottom line... do you want higher resolution or not?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by ixlegitballinxl

3 years ago 1080i was the best thing since sliced bread.......now its 720p vs 1080p....bottom line... do you want higher resolution or not?

That's not the bottom line - the bottom line is where will you be sitting in relation to your TV. If you're sitting 15ft away and you want a 42" TV, why waste the extra $500 on a 1080p set, put that money into a new speaker.

You should also be considering things other than resolution. For instance, a 1080p source on a 1080p screen requires no scaling. On a 1080i/720p screen it does. How does the set handle interlacing?

Viewing distance, 3:2 cadence, de-interlacing, resolution, source material - all these things are important when choosing a TV, not just the native resolution of the panel.

That's why the 720p KURO from Pioneer outclasses several 1080p LCD, LCos and DLP sets.

[MrRoy]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

There are plenty of other circumstances as well.
If you had a 720p/1080i set that didn't deinterlace properly and you're always inputting 1080i, chances are you've gone from 540p on the 42" to 1080p on the 40".
A better test would be comparing a 720p signal to a 1080p signal of the same source and seeing how much difference you notice.

As stated if someone has 40/40 vision this chart won't apply to them either, likewise someone with 15/15 vision may notice 1080p even earlier than the stated chart.

That's why the ranges are so wide.

I had both TV's in the house at the same time, i was able to compare side-by-side. The difference was noticable, expecially when watching a blu-ray movie. (I am not saying that the Plasma sucked, it was a 2008 Panasonic model.) That is where I noticed it. But, everyone is different and is going to notice different things. I think the chart referenced in this thread is a good reference guide, but it isn't the Bible of resolutions.

[dlshelt]

I have a projector and cant get over the difference from watching a dvd to blu ray from about 20 feet away and thats with 720p

[rogman]

Originally Posted by dlshelt

I have a projector and cant get over the difference from watching a dvd to blu ray from about 20 feet away and thats with 720p

I'm sure that 720P would be a lot sharper than 480P, even when it's upsampled. How big is your screen? Did you also notice a difference when you turn upsampling off/on? Just curious...

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by MrRoy

I am not saying that the Plasma sucked, it was a 2008 Panasonic model.

I would hope not, just about every subscription magazine and professional shoot-out ranks the Panasonic and Pioneer plasma's ahead of all other tv's, LCos, LCD, LED, DLP or otherwise in black levels, colour accuracy, motion resolution and contrast.

[clownface]

I have a 32" 1080P & a 40" 1080P and I think they both look FANATSTIC with a 1080P picture. Blu ray looks great on both. My 32" is about 4' away from the foot of my bed and my 40" is about 6' away from my couch. I saw the difference between the Sony 40" 1080P TV and 1080i/720P TV's.

[U4K61]

I have lots of posts on what I think of screen door 720p, not maping 1080p 1:1 and lost film grain. 1080p, there is nothing like the real thing.

[coachD]

First of all, 32 inches is way too small to fully enjoy HDTV, no matter what you choose (720P or 1080P).

The smallest size I would choose for a HDTV would be 42 inches. With 1080P there is no reason to cheat yourself out of a great picture. To be totally honest, I myself would not go below 50 inches for an HDTV in my living room. For the bedroom that might call for a smaller size.

But to answer your question: Yes, 1080P is worth it. The only ones who say it isn't are ones without a 1080P set. If you are going to go Hi-Def, then do not go half-step. Go all the way! Go 1080P!

[bluseminole]

I am 10' away from my 37" 1080p display, and the difference between 1080i and 1080p on the display is slightly noticeable. The difference between 720p and 1080p is more noticeable. Motion is rendered much more smoothly with 1080p than in 1080i; still shots=no difference.

This may defy all of the logic and charts, but I have pretty good eyes. Either that, or the placebo effect is having some serious complications.

According to that chart, I should barely be able to see the benefit between 480p and 720p. Complete bullshit that is--I can barely watch DVDs anymore, they're so flat and lifeless on the screen.

In short, 1080p is only worth it if you can see the difference. Our advice on this matter is not going to help you and it shouldn't affect your decision. If your eyes are sensitive enough, then 1080p at any screen size is the way to go. If you do not have critical eyes, then save your money and buy 1080i.

[MrRoy]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I would hope not, just about every subscription magazine and professional shoot-out ranks the Panasonic and Pioneer plasma's ahead of all other tv's, LCos, LCD, LED, DLP or otherwise in black levels, colour accuracy, motion resolution and contrast.

The TV was fantastic, I just got turned off when I saw slight image retention after a week of normal viewing, setting turned down to 50% and all. I read that it eventually goes away, but i was taking no chances. Plus, I game and i like to race and play sports so banners and speedometers might have been an issue.
I will say this, though. I have a Sony kdl-40v3000 and if the panny (42PX80U)had a black level of 100, the sony is 90. The black levels are just that close.

[Mr. Joshua]

Originally Posted by Cinemaddict

I just read an article saying that 1080p is only worthwhile on HDTVs that are 50" or larger. What do you all think?

If that's true, it seems like it'd be very silly to buy a 32" 1080p HDTV, for example, because 720p would look just the same on a screen that size.

1080p all the way no exceptions....

[Mr. Joshua]

Originally Posted by bluseminole

I am 10' away from my 37" 1080p display, and the difference between 1080i and 1080p on the display is slightly noticeable. The difference between 720p and 1080p is more noticeable. Motion is rendered much more smoothly with 1080p than in 1080i; still shots=no difference.

This may defy all of the logic and charts, but I have pretty good eyes. Either that, or the placebo effect is having some serious complications.

According to that chart, I should barely be able to see the benefit between 480p and 720p. Complete bullshit that is--I can barely watch DVDs anymore, they're so flat and lifeless on the screen.

In short, 1080p is only worth it if you can see the difference. Our advice on this matter is not going to help you and it shouldn't affect your decision. If your eyes are sensitive enough, then 1080p at any screen size is the way to go. If you do not have critical eyes, then save your money and buy 1080i.

I had lasik surgery and now have 20/10 vision in both eyes so 1080p is the only way to go for me....

[sardaukar1977]

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by coachD

First of all, 32 inches is way too small to fully enjoy HDTV, no matter what you choose (720P or 1080P).

The smallest size I would choose for a HDTV would be 42 inches. With 1080P there is no reason to cheat yourself out of a great picture. To be totally honest, I myself would not go below 50 inches for an HDTV in my living room. For the bedroom that might call for a smaller size.

But to answer your question: Yes, 1080P is worth it. The only ones who say it isn't are ones without a 1080P set. If you are going to go Hi-Def, then do not go half-step. Go all the way! Go 1080P!

well i wouldnt go as far as to say 32 inches is not good for high definition at all. my tv is a 32 inch so i chose a 720p/1080i tv and i think it looks just fine but i do think the bigger the tv the more greatness you will get. having a 32 inch is more like a demo to see how high definition looks before you shell out money towards a 1080p 42 inch or above tv

[nycomet]

Get a 52-inch 1080p LCD. I have the Sharp Aquos. What an amazing and impressive screen. My retinas have never been the same since I first laid eyes on this unit.... especially with a Blu-ray player supplying the image.

[Jackeroo75]

You guys are really funny!!

1. Most consumers do not have a dedicated home theater system!
2. Most consumers just have the tv only with built-in speakers~!
3. Most consumers don't even calibrate their TV!