Universal to make DTS-HD MA the standard for Blu-ray

[owa]

Originally Posted by kknight

I believe PS3 decodes some of the Dolby TrueHD but you won't get the full lossless audio, whereas high-end Blu-ray players will decode Dolby TrueHD without any loss signal. Not sure if you understood that? this is just what I've heard...

Actually, maybe what you heard was for DTS-HD MA instead? The PS3 could only decode the core track of DTS-HD MA until just recently. The DTS-HD MA support was just added with the recent firmware update.

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by Blu-News

"The first wave of Universal Blu-ray Disc titles on July 22 are all from the Mummy franchise and were all previously released on HD DVD: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns and The Scorpion King. All of these titles were published with Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 audio tracks, but not Dolby TrueHD tracks.

Per Universal, all three Mummy films will include DTS-HD Master Lossless Audio. That's right, folks. Instead of lazily porting over what was already completed for HD DVD, Universal has heard your cries for lossless audio and is taking action.

Universal went on to tell us that the game plan moving forward is for DTS-HD Master Lossless to become the Blu-ray standard at the studio. Obviously there will be exceptions, but it looks like the majority of titles, and probably all new theatrical titles, will include DTS-HD."

Source: dvd.themanroom.com

This is great news. I hope the DTS bombs will not be included.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

This is great news. I hope the DTS bombs will not be included.

I don't think it's the discs that were the issue per se. It was certain receivers, but that's being corrected with firmware updates.

[Big Daddy]

Why am I not surprised?

DTS was started a few years after Dolby started working on Dolby Digital. The company's initial investors were Steven Spielberg and Universal. They introduced the format with the 1993 release of Jurassic Park. It is not surprising that Universal is claiming that DTS is the best. Read the company history.
http://www.dtsonline.com/company/history/

As far as lossless audio is concerned,

Decoded DTS MA = Decoded Dolby TrueHD = LPCM

Any difference that you may think you are hearing is due to channel volume differences. Please stop the nonsense about DTS MA being the superior lossless format.

Read the thread on A Guide to Home Theater Audio CODECs.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

This is great news. I hope the DTS bombs will not be included.

The discs themselves were never the problem. Certain receivers had poorly implemented ICs for their DTS-HD MA decoding. It has been fixed already if you update the receiver.

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I don't think it's the discs that were the issue per se. It was certain receivers, but that's being corrected with firmware updates.

The DTS bombs are encoded on the disks but Onkyo, Pioneer and one other brand used a certain type of DTS chip that does not sit well with the dts encode.

[Jodi]

Originally Posted by Blu-News

"The first wave of Universal Blu-ray Disc titles on July 22 are all from the Mummy franchise and were all previously released on HD DVD: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns and The Scorpion King. All of these titles were published with Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 audio tracks, but not Dolby TrueHD tracks.

Per Universal, all three Mummy films will include DTS-HD Master Lossless Audio. That's right, folks. Instead of lazily porting over what was already completed for HD DVD, Universal has heard your cries for lossless audio and is taking action.

Universal went on to tell us that the game plan moving forward is for DTS-HD Master Lossless to become the Blu-ray standard at the studio. Obviously there will be exceptions, but it looks like the majority of titles, and probably all new theatrical titles, will include DTS-HD."

Source: dvd.themanroom.com

HELL YEAH!!!!!!
Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about, baby!!!
I can see it and HEAR it already.......Jurassic Park BDs in DTS HD Master Audio! The way they were MEANT to be heard!!!!

Jodi

Jurassic Park in DTS: Dinosaurs haven't sounded this good in 65 million years!

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

The DTS bombs are encoded on the disks but Onkyo, Pioneer and one other brand used a certain type of DTS chip that does not sit well with the dts encode.

Are you sure it's Pioneer? Because I never experienced it on my VSX-91TXH(yet). I thought it was Onkyo, Integra, and Denon.

[Clark Kent]

I'm very happy Universal has decided to go with DTS-HD MA. Now that the PS3 decodes it fully most of the BD players worldwide are equipped to play it. I wonder about New Line's future releases and what Warner will do with them. 640 kbps Dolby Digital just isn't good enough once you've heard a lossless soundtrack.

[Blu Titan]

Great move by Universal. We need lossless sound in every BD.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

NOW THIS IS HOW A STUDIO REDEEMS THEMSELVES!!!

Paramount is still looking to stick it to us. Even after their unwarranted betrayal they aren't giving us the best that Blu-ray has to offer. Had Paramount's announcement included details like this Universal DTS tidbit, I would have opened my arms wide and said, "I am ready to start the journey to forgiveness." As is, I'm still sour about them.

This has been one hell of a wild week for news! With all of 'The Hobbit' and studio news flying around, along with the amazing line-up of films coming to theatres as well as Blu-ray over the next 3 months, I'm literally going to have to take the teapot in my head off of the burner! I've got steam whistles for ears!!!

[owa]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

NOW THIS IS HOW A STUDIO REDEEMS THEMSELVES!!!

Paramount is still looking to stick it to us. Even after their unwarranted betrayal they aren't giving us the best that Blu-ray has to offer. Had Paramount's announcement included details like this Universal DTS tidbit, I would have opened my arms wide and said, "I am ready to start the journey to forgiveness." As is, I'm still sour about them.

Paramount is standardizing on TrueHD. Maybe that wasn't part of the press release though but if you read Bill Hunt's thread, it's discussed there and also on The Digital Bits.

[kknight]

Originally Posted by owa

Actually, maybe what you heard was for DTS-HD MA instead? The PS3 could only decode the core track of DTS-HD MA until just recently. The DTS-HD MA support was just added with the recent firmware update.

Yeah I know. I'm just trying find why Dolby TrueHD doesn't compare to movies that are in DTS MA or PCM. Oh well, just glad Universal picked DTS MA!!!

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by kknight

Yeah I know. I'm just trying find why Dolby TrueHD doesn't compare to movies that are in DTS MA or PCM. Oh well, just glad Universal picked DTS MA!!!

What's your comparison? The only BD with DTS HD MA and TrueHD is Close Encounters and it sounds like it should...exactly the same.

[CassilineKnight]

Wow thats great news...

And I'm officially stoked for The Mummy movies now...lol. I wonder if they'll release them as a Boxed Trilogy Set? The first 2 and the new 3rd one?

I don't count The Scorpion King but I don't count The Rock as a real actor...

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by owa

Paramount is standardizing on TrueHD. Maybe that wasn't part of the press release though but if you read Bill Hunt's thread, it's discussed there and also on The Digital Bits.

I don't like TrueHD nearly as much as DTS HD MA. I've said it a hundred times that Dolby detailing is not nearly as rich or positionally accurate as DTS tracks in all "supposedly equal" forms. DTS HD MA and PCM tracks always fill my room with more sound (NOT MORE VOLUME as many will say) than TrueHD tracks. In my opinion, TrueHD is great for romances, comedies, and documentaries. Action, fantasy, adventure, and every other type of film not mentioned deserves PCM or DTS HD MA to push the experience to its utmost presentation ability.

And before counter arguements ensue, I have been scrutinously listening for the differences from a completely objective viewpoint as I have been reviewing digital media for the last several years. Every disc I play gets a clean slate approach. I'll finish the movie and pop in a couple of comparable genre titles to compare the sound of PCM and TrueHD tracks. Each time, the DTS HD MA has more weight to it.

[BlackLightShark009]

Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

So, please help me on this... is DTS HDMA really the superior format essentually? I'm still confused.

I guess depends on the person. Cool it's there but at same time it's not like im tryin to here if people are letting one rip in the movie on screen.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

NOW THIS IS HOW A STUDIO REDEEMS THEMSELVES!!!

Paramount is still looking to stick it to us. Even after their unwarranted betrayal they aren't giving us the best that Blu-ray has to offer. Had Paramount's announcement included details like this Universal DTS tidbit, I would have opened my arms wide and said, "I am ready to start the journey to forgiveness." As is, I'm still sour about them.

This has been one hell of a wild week for news! With all of 'The Hobbit' and studio news flying around, along with the amazing line-up of films coming to theatres as well as Blu-ray over the next 3 months, I'm literally going to have to take the teapot in my head off of the burner! I've got steam whistles for ears!!!

If it helps, someone on another forum with sources at Paramount is claiming their newly encoded BDs will all be very high bitrate AVC or VC-1 encodes.

[Mr. Joshua]

Universal you are giving worm fuzzy feeling inside with the DTS-HD Master Lossless Audio....

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I'll finish the movie and pop in a couple of comparable genre titles to compare the sound of PCM and TrueHD tracks. Each time, the DTS HD MA has more weight to it.

Sorry, but it is not valid comparison unless you compare the same soundtracks.

What you are comparing is different sound mixes.