Very disappointed with PQ on two Fox titles... - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

un4gvn94538 · 05-09-2008, 02:38 AM

it makes absolutly no sense to criticize the picture quality of a high def format when your not even using cables to get the high def picture!

obiwopkenobi62 · 05-09-2008, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by horrorfreak889

I really dont know too much about connection/wires and all the specific things about Blu-ray yet.
I have the basic cables that came with the bluray player. I believe they are a step down from HDMI (which apparently gives the best picture)
I am happy with bluray, just disapointed by these 2 movies.

Was just reading through this thread. I've watched both those movies and both looked fantastic.
I'm wondering how does a step down from HDMI give you the best picture? The best connection is HDMI.

un4gvn94538 · 05-09-2008, 02:56 AM

a step down would be component, then below that would be s video, but hes using the rock bottom composite that came with the player!

McHairy21 · 05-09-2008, 03:06 AM

HDMI CABLE!!!!

Get One

SkullPhyre · 05-09-2008, 03:27 AM

Blu-ray actually works over composite?ewwwwww. These ce manufacturers need to stop putting shit cables in the box. No wonder the jsp isn't impressed by Blu anything hooked up with those shit cables ewww. Thinking about it makes my eyes hurt. I always toss whatever comes in the box except for power cords with game systems. To the op get a HDMI cable get your display properly calibrated, and after you have REALLY watched Hi- def then come back and talk to us. Your not watching Hi-def. Now excuse me thinking about those ugly cables and the picture they give gave me a headache I need to go get some excedrin.

bone crusher · 05-09-2008, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by horrorfreak889

I was VERY upset with the PQ of 28 weeks later and The Day After tomorrow. I decided to rent them, and wow...the PQ really wasnt anything like this site makes it out to be. They both got great PQ reviews. about 70% of 28weeks later was grainy. I felt like the DVD looked better. The day after tomorrow was OK. Nothing special.

Idk so far in my opinon THE DESCENT holds top spot for best bluray for me.

I have watched 28 Weeks Later twice on BD and to me it looks pretty good for the style of movie it is. I'd give it an 8/10 for video.

BStecke · 05-09-2008, 03:57 AM

I was going to ask about the composite cables, but I figured that was too obvious. Perhaps I was wrong. But yeah, check those cables, man. Let us know what color they are.

stockstar1138 · 05-09-2008, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

I was going to ask about the composite cables, but I figured that was too obvious. Perhaps I was wrong. But yeah, check those cables, man. Let us know what color they are.

like he is going to come back here and admit to using composite cables after we ripped him a new ******* about it.

ricwhite · 05-09-2008, 04:15 AM

Maybe it's time for a Beginner's Guide to Video Connections:

Link to Video Connection Guide

PLEASE do yourself a GREAT favor and invest in an HDMI cable. You will noticed a HUGE difference.

thebluemax · 05-09-2008, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by horrorfreak889

Not true at all!!!! When I watched The Descent and Identity, most of the film is in a dark environment, Yet the darker images looked fantastic. I was blown away at how clear images can be in a dark atmosphere.

Where as I find the dark scenes in "Descent" just awful-lot of digital noise

stockstar1138 · 05-09-2008, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by thebluemax

Where as I find the dark scenes in "Descent" just awful-lot of digital noise

he doesn't see that, most of the scene has absolutly no detail on his 800:1 contrast HDTV and espeically if he is using composite.

thebluemax · 05-09-2008, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

he doesn't see that, most of the scene has absolutly no detail on his 800:1 contrast HDTV and espeically if he is using composite.

That makes excellent sense

jurassic_pork · 05-09-2008, 04:53 AM

Well I guess we've run another one away from the forum, LOL

stockstar1138 · 05-09-2008, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jurassic_pork

Well I guess we've run another one away from the forum, LOL

i don't feel bad about this one.

WickyWoo · 05-09-2008, 05:10 AM

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Where as I find the dark scenes in "Descent" just awful-lot of digital noise

That would be grain

jw · 05-09-2008, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by horrorfreak889

I was VERY upset with the PQ of 28 weeks later and The Day After tomorrow. I decided to rent them, and wow...the PQ really wasnt anything like this site makes it out to be. They both got great PQ reviews. about 70% of 28weeks later was grainy. I felt like the DVD looked better. The day after tomorrow was OK. Nothing special.

Idk so far in my opinon THE DESCENT holds top spot for best bluray for me.

TDAT was aweome, I think alot of people complain and dont realize they have the settings improperly configured.

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Originally Posted by jurassic_pork

Well I guess we've run another one away from the forum, LOL

Fud happens

supersix4 · 05-09-2008, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gvortex7

It's not about knocking anything. In the audio/video world you always get what you pay for. 95+% of the time better brand names will have better PQ/AQ then cheap or economy brands. It's really that simple. Not to mention that it is essential that you have you TV properly calibrated and that you're using the optimal connections between player and display.

yeah its true sorry to say but most things in life are like that, those movies I could see contrast playing a major role im sure he's lucky if hes pushing the norm 1000:1 or 1200:1 he could be doing 500:1

EDIT: Product Specs:
• Resolution: 1366 x 768
• Brightness: 500 cd/m2
• Contrast ratio: 800:1
• Response time: 8 ms
• Viewing angle: 150 x 160

Cruyff14 · 05-09-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

That would be grain

Not necessarily. If the brightness is set too high or some enhancement like dynamic gamma or black enhancement is turned on, low level luminance scenes could have a lot of noise in the picture. But that's a problem of the hardware and not of the software.

Crème Blu-ray · 05-09-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thebluemax

Where as I find the dark scenes in "Descent" just awful-lot of digital noise

Strange, I saw hardly any grain or digital noise at all, even in the darkest scenes. You may have a calibration issue: If your set is not properly calibrated, your settings may be amplifying noise that's supposed to be below black to a point where it's visible. I tested this theory out with a few of the darkest scenes in The Descent. In my Panasonic's Cinema mode with my DVE-derived settings, the scenes look fantastic; but as soon as I go to Standard or Vivid mode

*BOOM* it looks like someone is throwing foil confetti around.

lgans316 · 05-09-2008, 07:29 AM

Only 2 ?

70% of the FOX releases suck in Video presentation. 90% of them suck in overall presentation due to missing extras. Luckily they woke up from hibernation post Paramount announcement last year else they would have focussed their energy in rolling out family friendly dramas like Nip/Tuck, L-word etc and releasing Predator, Commando and Ronin in 2010.

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05-09-2008, 02:38 AM	#41
un4gvn94538 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Limbo (Bakersfield, Ca.) 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:811 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:1494 Trading Score:277	it makes absolutly no sense to criticize the picture quality of a high def format when your not even using cables to get the high def picture!

05-09-2008, 02:56 AM	#43
un4gvn94538 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Limbo (Bakersfield, Ca.) 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:811 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:1494 Trading Score:277	a step down would be component, then below that would be s video, but hes using the rock bottom composite that came with the player!

05-09-2008, 03:06 AM	#44
McHairy21 Banned Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Hot Tucson, Arizona Posts:8,000,000,000	HDMI CABLE!!!! Get One

05-09-2008, 03:27 AM	#45
SkullPhyre Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Portland, Oregon Blu-ray collection:184	Blu-ray actually works over composite?ewwwwww. These ce manufacturers need to stop putting shit cables in the box. No wonder the jsp isn't impressed by Blu anything hooked up with those shit cables ewww. Thinking about it makes my eyes hurt. I always toss whatever comes in the box except for power cords with game systems. To the op get a HDMI cable get your display properly calibrated, and after you have REALLY watched Hi- def then come back and talk to us. Your not watching Hi-def. Now excuse me thinking about those ugly cables and the picture they give gave me a headache I need to go get some excedrin.

05-09-2008, 03:57 AM	#47
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	I was going to ask about the composite cables, but I figured that was too obvious. Perhaps I was wrong. But yeah, check those cables, man. Let us know what color they are.

05-09-2008, 04:15 AM	#49
ricwhite Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Utah Blu-ray collection:129	Maybe it's time for a Beginner's Guide to Video Connections: Link to Video Connection Guide PLEASE do yourself a GREAT favor and invest in an HDMI cable. You will noticed a HUGE difference.

05-09-2008, 04:53 AM	#53
jurassic_pork Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:240	Well I guess we've run another one away from the forum, LOL

05-09-2008, 07:29 AM	#60
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	Only 2 ? 70% of the FOX releases suck in Video presentation. 90% of them suck in overall presentation due to missing extras. Luckily they woke up from hibernation post Paramount announcement last year else they would have focussed their energy in rolling out family friendly dramas like Nip/Tuck, L-word etc and releasing Predator, Commando and Ronin in 2010.

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