Anyone else irritated that PS3-40G isn't backwards compatible - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

allstar780 · 05-30-2008, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lion King

Not starting a fight here, but that's ridiculous. PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO RESEARCH WHEN WE'RE BUYING PS3's. IT ISN'T OUR FAULT WE BOUGHT THEM (especially since it's usually THE ONLY VERSION OF THE PS3 AVAILABLE) IT IS SONY'S FAULT FOR NOT ADDING BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY.

and so i guess microsoft having the Arcade, Pro, and Elite models for the 360 is also misleading and underhanded and sneaky?

seriously... if you are going to buy hardware, evaluate your options first. if you were atleast aware there was more than one version of the PS3 then it should be obvious you're not just paying $100 for an extra bit of drive space.

allstar780 · 05-30-2008, 04:50 AM

PS. I have an old PS2 Slim collecting dust if anyone wants to trade for a couple BDs lol

The Lion King · 05-30-2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Generation

Is it Sony fault as well that people got mislead into thinking the 40GB has BC?

Yes. Of course it is. PS2s have backwards PS1 compatibility, so PS3s should have backwards PS2 compatibility. It goes without saying - although I seem to have to. We aren't stupid for complaining about this. Not trying to offend some people here, but some of you rich people with multiple 80gig PS3s don't really seem to know what it's like.

Blu-Generation · 05-30-2008, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lion King

Yes. Of course it is. PS2s have backwards PS1 compatibility, so PS3s should have backwards PS2 compatibility. It goes without saying - although I seem to have to. We aren't stupid for complaining about this. Not trying to offend some people here, but some of you rich people with multiple 80gig PS3s don't really seem to know what it's like.

What it's like to not be able to read?

The Lion King · 05-30-2008, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Generation

What it's like to not be able to read?

I'm not sure. What is it like?

Blu-Generation · 05-30-2008, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lion King

I'm not sure. What is it like?

I don't know, you're the one complaining.

The Lion King · 05-30-2008, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Generation

I don't know, you're the one complaining.

I am, but not about not being able to read. Although that wouldn't seem like such a bad idea right about now, would it.

Blu-Generation · 05-30-2008, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lion King

I am, but not about not being able to read. Although that wouldn't seem like such a bad idea right about now, would it.

Not being able to read, that's why you're in the wrong topic.

The Lion King · 05-30-2008, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Generation

Not being able to read, that's why you're in the wrong topic.

Wow. Is this argument even going anywhere? ...not that most of the arguments on here go anywhere at all, but if I'm wasting oh so precious posting time on this I need to know if it's worth it, you know?

Blu-Generation · 05-30-2008, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lion King

Wow. Is this argument even going anywhere? ...not that most of the arguments on here go anywhere at all, but if I'm wasting oh so precious posting time on this I need to know if it's worth it, you know?

I don't know, you're the one posting in the wrong topic.

ToonyLoons · 05-30-2008, 05:09 AM

Maybe I should just go back to my old arguement. There should not be different versions of the PS3. They got it right the first time with the 60gb. I am not saying there should not be updates to the hardware like smaller more effcient processors and such. But there would be far less confusion if there were only one option.

DeathByAsh'aman · 05-30-2008, 05:13 AM

I always thought it was pretty straight forward. Wasnt not having BC (among other things) a big reason why there was the $100 price cut?

No matter what anyone says you should always research anything you buy, and if you dont you shouldnt be surprised if something goes amiss.

Blu-Generation · 05-30-2008, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ToonyLoons

Maybe I should just go back to my old arguement. There should not be different versions of the PS3. They got it right the first time with the 60gb. I am not saying there should not be updates to the hardware like smaller more effcient processors and such. But there would be far less confusion if there were only one option.

If they had stick to one, they'll be dead since last year.

Beside, there's only two PS3 model at a time anyways.

20GB - 60GB
40GB - 80GB

ToonyLoons · 05-30-2008, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathByAsh'aman

I always thought it was pretty straight forward. Wasnt not having BC (among other things) a big reason why there was the $100 price cut?

No matter what anyone says you should always research anything you buy, and if you dont you shouldnt be surprised if something goes amiss.

But you still should be able to trust the people selling you things. Most of us here know you can only trust what a sales person says so much. But the general consumer does not do research, or their research consist of asking sales people.

Luis_A51 · 05-30-2008, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lion King

Not starting a fight here, but that's ridiculous. PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO RESEARCH WHEN WE'RE BUYING PS3's. IT ISN'T OUR FAULT WE BOUGHT THEM (especially since it's usually THE ONLY VERSION OF THE PS3 AVAILABLE) IT IS SONY'S FAULT FOR NOT ADDING BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY.

False. You should research pretty much any electronics you plan to buy. Plain and simple.

I do agree that you have every right to be annoyed at sony for only offering the 40gig in your area, but thats a different matter.

Luis_A51 · 05-30-2008, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ToonyLoons

But you still should be able to trust the people selling you things. Most of us here know you can only trust what a sales person says so much. But the general consumer does not do research, or their research consist of asking sales people.

Then blame the sales person, not sony.

Blu-Generation · 05-30-2008, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Luis_A51

Then blame the sales person, not sony.

Exactly!

It's that simple, but some refuse to accept that fact and prefer to blame Sony instead for their own error.

DeathByAsh'aman · 05-30-2008, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ToonyLoons

But you still should be able to trust the people selling you things. Most of us here know you can only trust what a sales person says so much. But the general consumer does not do research, or their research consist of asking sales people.

True. But shouldnt people by the time their 12-14 know alot of people spew out BS like no tomorrow. I dont know, I personally rarely believe things until i can do the research myself and if i cant do the research i still believe that whatever "so and so" told me could very well be false. Maybe its growing up in a big city that taught me to not trust people you dont know.. and usually people you do know too.

richieb1971 · 05-30-2008, 05:58 AM

Just buy a different PS3 like many have said. I have 2 60GB models, both were bought when the 40GB was launched. Therefore you should have no problem sourcing one now. People on here act like a million 60's just evaporated into stardust or something.

Find someone who has a 60 and will swap it for your 40. There are literally hundreds of thousands of 60 users that don't use the facilities it offers. I'm sure the added bonus of a warranty extension will warrant a fair swap.

AranhaHunter · 05-30-2008, 06:07 AM

Yeah it sucks, but you have to understand something, last year before the 40GB came out, Sony was getting its ass kicked by the 360 and of course by the Wii.

Blu ray was still fighting against HD DVD and Paramount had just gone to the dark side, the PS3 game library looked eerily similar to the 360 with the exception that the 360 had better exclusives and MP games were generally better on that machine thus making it the console of choice for the consumer. The holiday season was coming and Sony needed to do something and do something fast.

Of course what they did was cut the price of the PS3 (as well as release a couple of AAA exclusives). Sony was already losing money with the PS3 though so it needed to cut costs, by not packaging the ethernet cable as well as taking out the EE of the PS3 and some other components on the MB, Sony was able to offset those loses a bit. You have to understand, this NEEDED to be done, they could not afford only having a 500 console as its lowest price entry against the $250 Wii and the then $299 360 Arcade. This was a calculated risk and a calculated move by Sony to get back in the game, and fortunately they did.

I also think Sony knows that there are a lot of PS2 consumers that will like to upgrade and still be able to play their PS2 games, SCEJ has been very quiet lately and has not released a lot games, and even though Sony denies it, I would be very surprised if they aren't working on Software Emulation BC for the newer PS3s without the EE. Though I might be completely wrong, I expect those will be available on or around the launch of Home or when the price drops to $299.

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05-30-2008, 04:50 AM	#42
allstar780 Special Member Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Grande Prairie, Alberta Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:115 Blu-ray reviews:2	PS. I have an old PS2 Slim collecting dust if anyone wants to trade for a couple BDs lol

05-30-2008, 05:09 AM	#51
ToonyLoons Expert Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray collection:130	Maybe I should just go back to my old arguement. There should not be different versions of the PS3. They got it right the first time with the 60gb. I am not saying there should not be updates to the hardware like smaller more effcient processors and such. But there would be far less confusion if there were only one option.

05-30-2008, 05:13 AM	#52
DeathByAsh'aman Expert Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Out West PSNetwork: DanceTheSpears	I always thought it was pretty straight forward. Wasnt not having BC (among other things) a big reason why there was the $100 price cut? No matter what anyone says you should always research anything you buy, and if you dont you shouldnt be surprised if something goes amiss.

05-30-2008, 05:58 AM	#59
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	Just buy a different PS3 like many have said. I have 2 60GB models, both were bought when the 40GB was launched. Therefore you should have no problem sourcing one now. People on here act like a million 60's just evaporated into stardust or something. Find someone who has a 60 and will swap it for your 40. There are literally hundreds of thousands of 60 users that don't use the facilities it offers. I'm sure the added bonus of a warranty extension will warrant a fair swap.

05-30-2008, 06:07 AM	#60
AranhaHunter Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Trading Score:1	Yeah it sucks, but you have to understand something, last year before the 40GB came out, Sony was getting its ass kicked by the 360 and of course by the Wii. Blu ray was still fighting against HD DVD and Paramount had just gone to the dark side, the PS3 game library looked eerily similar to the 360 with the exception that the 360 had better exclusives and MP games were generally better on that machine thus making it the console of choice for the consumer. The holiday season was coming and Sony needed to do something and do something fast. Of course what they did was cut the price of the PS3 (as well as release a couple of AAA exclusives). Sony was already losing money with the PS3 though so it needed to cut costs, by not packaging the ethernet cable as well as taking out the EE of the PS3 and some other components on the MB, Sony was able to offset those loses a bit. You have to understand, this NEEDED to be done, they could not afford only having a 500 console as its lowest price entry against the $250 Wii and the then $299 360 Arcade. This was a calculated risk and a calculated move by Sony to get back in the game, and fortunately they did. I also think Sony knows that there are a lot of PS2 consumers that will like to upgrade and still be able to play their PS2 games, SCEJ has been very quiet lately and has not released a lot games, and even though Sony denies it, I would be very surprised if they aren't working on Software Emulation BC for the newer PS3s without the EE. Though I might be completely wrong, I expect those will be available on or around the launch of Home or when the price drops to $299.

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