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Old 02-17-2007, 05:05 PM   #41
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I sent an email to Univeral

As for Bill Hunt I agree that he was probably enraged after reading all the hate letters from HD-DVD owners

Like he said they can't counter his facts so they probably just attacked him personaly. I think he's mad now
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Old 02-17-2007, 05:32 PM   #42
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Excellent news!
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:16 PM   #43
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:38 PM   #44
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I know that Babel is encoded in AVC... and the BD is encoded in MPEG-2, but maybe they and Sony had a deal on how many titles they (Sony) would encode for them. Paramount could be trying out AVC because they know the BD camp is very fond of the codec and they could be ready to make a move.
Interesting.

That Paramount has gone NOT VC-1 for a rather significant title on HD DVD is very telling. I wonder what the MS folk are thinking about that?!

Every one of Amir's posts on AVC has basically spit venom at the codec (even more so than MPEG-2!). I suppose because it represents the real competition as the future clearly shows a transition from MPEG-2.

So much for "every North American HD DVD movie title" being VC-1, eh?

Certainly Paramount getting experience with AVC would allow them to transition to in-house AVC encoding with the Sony encoder at a future date.

The slow down in Paramount releases could indicate they are at a decision point with respect to neutrality.

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Old 02-17-2007, 06:40 PM   #45
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I would like to comment too that if Warner Bros can have a look at sales rate of the Departed against HD-DVD version they will be surprised at the end of this month and conclude average sales of BD Departed was far more better than HD-dvd version.As a result ,BD is better than HD-DVD so we should dropped and Go BD.What if Batman Begins is released now with PCM soundtrack and AVC.What it is going to be the result?
And Maybe BD Departed it will be a positive sign that warner should forward with the catch up plan of BD promise us to release as soon as possible
just to play devil's advocate, there is the chance the slow down is simply because they are moving in house for their encodes and it is taking more time than they thought to encode.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:02 PM   #46
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just to play devil's advocate, there is the chance the slow down is simply because they are moving in house for their encodes and it is taking more time than they thought to encode.
Hold that thought young man.

2006 HD DVD was quite simply the best possible face it could forward. It's not sustainable, and we are seeing that.
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Old 02-18-2007, 01:24 AM   #47
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Out of the entire article (if you can call it that??), the following line sums up the delusion and confusion of HDDVD supporters quite nicely:

"The interesting thing, however, is that none of these people could logically refute my reasoning, and very few even attempted to do so."

This is beautiful and it just further proves that there is no logic or sound reasoning to sticking with HDDVD or adopting it in the first place.
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Old 02-18-2007, 02:46 AM   #48
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"The interesting thing, however, is that none of these people could logically refute my reasoning, and very few even attempted to do so."
Those that would reject BD in the face of the current situation are more anti-something than pro-HD DVD. Political and emotional reasoning is not logical. So, it's not a surprise they can't refute Bill's reasoning logically.

To me, BD was a stone cold logical choice based on pure self interest. If all studios announced HD DVD support Monday, and dropped BD, I would be very confused. And then I would start wondering which HD DVD player I was going to buy.

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Old 02-18-2007, 12:32 PM   #49
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Hell no. I do not support the idea of Blu-Ray disc being the next format because they are winning and have more support. I support Blu-Ray disc because it is a far more superior technology because it will be able to store so much more information. Talk about the blind leading the blind. It's not winning because it is winning. It is winning because it is the better product. Period. H.D.-D.V.-D. has been nothing but lies from what I can see and tell.
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:03 PM   #50
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Superior spec doesn't always win. Betamax is the oft-repeated example.

But, this time the majority of the studios chose to influence the winner by going exclusive. And all but one of the exclusives chose for the future and not for temporary issues (like replication costs in Spring 2006).

The superior format coupled with superior content support and superor CE support has won the war for Blu-ray.

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Old 02-18-2007, 04:05 PM   #51
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Capacity is the key! Studios know it that's why they support it! Blu-ray is made just that! More is always better in any sense of the word!
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:12 PM   #52
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Not the Betamyth again! I chose VHS for the same reasons I chose Blu: best format
Till Laserdisc



your videolength might vary
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:19 PM   #53
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your videolength might vary


i was 4 for that war. my parents and my grandparents did choose vhs though.

i choose blu for three major reasons. #1, superior tech specs. #2, capacity. being the computer nerd that i am, i instantly recognized that as soon as burners could reach the masses at reasonable prices, the industry would recognize and want larger recording capacities. the IT industry would help drive that market. simple. #3, industry support.

clear and succinct i would think
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:21 PM   #54
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Bill, all the invective hurled at you sans reasoning is a good thing in that it means your points were valid. So, take it as an affirmation of your PoV and let the hostiles be hostile. They only ruin their own peace of mind (if you can call what they have between their ears, minds..)

If they are true HT fans, they will come round to BD eventually. Then they will appreciate it and your contribution to helping it gain traction.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:11 PM   #55
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i was 4 for that war. my parents and my grandparents did choose vhs though.

i choose blu for three major reasons. #1, superior tech specs. #2, capacity. being the computer nerd that i am, i instantly recognized that as soon as burners could reach the masses at reasonable prices, the industry would recognize and want larger recording capacities. the IT industry would help drive that market. simple. #3, industry support.

clear and succinct i would think

It really amazes me some of the arguments hd-dud fans make against bd superior specs... like the up to 200gbs of storage is "redundant" and 45-51gbs is plenty and that with more and better compression they will be able to fit long movies like Lord of the Rings on a single disc with extras. What morons... let's not even try and advance and have overly compressed "looks good enough" transfers of movies. And not even think about the applications that the specs of BD can have in the future.

Oh and their argument for lack of HD-DUD support... that "Sony,Fox, MGM and Disney" don't really release movie titles they like and that Universal titles only appeal to them anyway.

I mean, these people are insane.
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:23 PM   #56
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It really amazes me some of the arguments hd-dud fans make against bd superior specs... like the up to 200gbs of storage is "redundant" and 45-51gbs is plenty and that with more and better compression they will be able to fit long movies like Lord of the Rings on a single disc with extras. What morons... let's not even try and advance and have overly compressed "looks good enough" transfers of movies. And not even think about the applications that the specs of BD can have in the future.

Oh and their argument for lack of HD-DUD support... that "Sony,Fox, MGM and Disney" don't really release movie titles they like and that Universal titles only appeal to them anyway.

I mean, these people are insane.
Wait whats that I hear- thats it the knees of Universal exec shaking because 10 people and a few of there mates mail them to support BD. Yeah- let me know how that works out!

I am all for BD, but I doubt Universal will switch anytime soon, they will stay HD DVD for at least this year and if you want to watch these films, by a HD DVD player.

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Old 02-18-2007, 07:26 PM   #57
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All told, the user base for BD is huge right now, and even DVD took a long time to get to these numbers.
Ha Ha Ha

Yeah sure they are! Compared to what? I dont beleive that BD stand alones outsell HD DVD.

BUT even them combined number of BD and HD DVD player is not huge in any sense of the word, I dont think sales of HD player is even 1% of all DVD players sold

So what are you talking about?

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Old 02-18-2007, 07:34 PM   #58
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err guys I think we have a troll here!
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:38 PM   #59
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Actually we dont- we have someone who sees that while DB is a great format, early releases have treated consumers with contempt.

My point is more that the narrow mindedness displayed by some of the posters here, is what one could expect on any playground in the country
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Why are you all such fanboys? Are you all under the age of 16?
No, this is not the Xbox forum. You may wanna go back there.
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