Straw Dogs - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

josuv22 · 10-12-2011, 09:22 PM

another comparison between UK and US
no1

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no 2

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Dickieduvet · 10-12-2011, 09:24 PM

Wow, The UK looks proper shite. I'll be keeping my US edition then.

chip75 · 10-12-2011, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajenglish

This may seem like an odd question to ask

, but does anyone know what size the BD case for the Fremantle will be?
I want to get a 2-disc blu-ray case to house both releases (space is an issue for me, as for many), but to my great annoyance I've found that they come in different sizes....................

Hope someone can help..........

I'd imagine they're the normal 14mm Amaray's, just pick up a spare tray to add the other disc to your US or UK case (I think the tray's aren't always compatible though, a Viva tray won't always fit in an Amaray case and vice versa).

nekromantik · 10-12-2011, 09:32 PM

im close to cancelling my order for the UK disc
thats terrible!!

Bad Sandwich · 10-12-2011, 10:27 PM

^ Look everyone - it's the Lionsgate treatment!

classicfilmcollector · 10-13-2011, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Sandwich

^ Look everyone - it's the Lionsgate treatment!

McCrutchy · 10-13-2011, 01:43 PM

I can't imagine that these screenshots represent what is on the finalized disc. If that's the case, then someone at Freemantle has made a major error.

Where are these screenshot comparisons coming from?

josuv22 · 10-13-2011, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

I can't imagine that these screenshots represent what is on the finalized disc. If that's the case, then someone at Freemantle has made a major error.

Where are these screenshot comparisons coming from?

from here

nekromantik · 10-13-2011, 03:39 PM

I can be 90% sure its real and will be that bad on the disc.
when there are 2 studios releasing a movie in different countries this does happen,

McCrutchy · 10-13-2011, 03:50 PM

This is distressing. I may have to get the Freemantle disc for the excellent extras, but I'm really not a fan of the approach that they have taken if that Home Cinema Choice article is correct.

Hopefully, some authoritative sources will weigh in in the coming weeks.

Dust Devil · 10-13-2011, 07:08 PM

I'm so glad I got the US BD. This looks absolutely crappy !

Dan8700 · 10-13-2011, 07:27 PM

Crummy. MGM for life.

KubrickFan · 10-13-2011, 07:30 PM

This looks like the Predator debacle all over again. One version looks filmlike, but doesn't have any bonus features, the other does have extras but looks awful. I love insightful bonus features, but the difference between the two is so huge that anyone who wants this movie, should go for the MGM version.

Leterface · 10-13-2011, 09:17 PM

Just ordered the USA version for $9.99 - thanks for posting here the screencaps.

pro-bassoonist · 10-14-2011, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

I can't imagine that these screenshots represent what is on the finalized disc. If that's the case, then someone at Freemantle has made a major error.

Why?

I don't have this disc yet but am very much looking forward to it because I don't believe that the screencaptures posted there are accurate (the colors of the U.S. screencaptures, for instance, are not identical to the colors of our U.S. screencaptures). And if anything, for this film I would go for rawer and harsher colors rather than the lifeless color-scheme on the U.S. disc. The contrast levels, however, worry me.

The U.S. disc was sourced from an old master that was prepped for DVD - and I am absolutely convinced that the color-scheme is off. I need to see the UK disc first, but Peckinpah's films do not look dull. This is a fact. On the contrary, they overflow with colors and often look quite edgy (for example, Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia is a film that has a very rough look).

Another film that does not look dull:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-G...ay/359/#Review

Pro-B

McCrutchy · 10-14-2011, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Why?

Exactly ehy I qualified that statement by saying: "I can't imagine that these screenshots represent what is on the finalized disc." because I don't. If the final disc looks like those screenshots then we have a major problem because...

Quote:

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

The contrast levels, however, worry me.

and this is why. The color of the image is not as troubling as the overblown contrast. I am further troubled after reading the article from Home Cinema Choice which states that:

Quote:

On the other hand, our sources indicate that Fremantle sourced a rarely screened theatrical print from Buena Vista to serve as the source for its Blu-ray release of the film, claiming this offers a much more accurate brightness and contrast for the film than any previous home entertainment release.

which makes it sound as though an excuse is being made. I'm all for having vivid, even saturated colors, but the extremity of the visuals in the screencaps are what bother me. Hopefully, the actual disc is better-resolved, or some very knowledgeable people weigh in and say "This is what Straw Dogs looked like in 1971"--from those screencaps alone, I am not convinced.

pro-bassoonist · 10-14-2011, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

...which makes it sound as though an excuse is being made. I'm all for having vivid, even saturated colors, but the extremity of the visuals in the screencaps are what bother me. Hopefully, the actual disc is better-resolved, or some very knowledgeable people weigh in and say "This is what Straw Dogs looked like in 1971"--from those screencaps alone, I am not convinced.

Actually, it does not sound like an excuse at all, and the issue is not in how everything is resolved. Clearly, the MGM disc is softer and noisier, and clearly (from what I see) the new scan has grain resolved better.

There are two issues here:

1. Colors. Which transfer has more accurate colors? As I said before, I want to see this new disc first, but there is no doubt in my mind that the MGM transfer has problematic colors. I've seen it.

2. Contrast levels. This is the bigger issue. Again, I have to see the disc and how the film looks in motion. I don't trust screencaptures. But one thing I know for a fact is that Peckinpah's films do not look dull.

Pro-B

L'armée des ombres · 10-21-2011, 08:42 PM

Are there no reviews yet??
The release is in 3 days...i would have thought someone should have this by now

Cheers
MM

magnum_valentino · 10-21-2011, 09:47 PM

Amazon sends me the occasional product for review: they're almost always straight-to-DVD films starring the likes of Stone Cold Steve Austin, but one of this week's choices was Straw Dogs, so I've a free copy on its way. Given the sentiments on here I might just sell it on, or I'll trade if anyone wants it...

huntauk · 10-21-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnum_valentino

Amazon sends me the occasional product for review: they're almost always straight-to-DVD films starring the likes of Stone Cold Steve Austin, but one of this week's choices was Straw Dogs, so I've a free copy on its way. Given the sentiments on here I might just sell it on, or I'll trade if anyone wants it...

PM Sent.

10-12-2011, 09:22 PM	#41
josuv22 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Blu-ray collection:1723 DVD collection:128 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:21	another comparison between UK and US no1 [Show spoiler] UK bluray US Bluray UK DVD no 2 [Show spoiler] UK US UKdvd Last edited by josuv22; 10-12-2011 at 09:26 PM.

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10-12-2011, 09:24 PM	#42
Dickieduvet Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2008 Location:England 4K collection:638 Blu-ray collection:3908 DVD collection:90 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:7	Wow, The UK looks proper shite. I'll be keeping my US edition then.

10-12-2011, 09:32 PM	#44
nekromantik Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Bristol, UK Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:549	im close to cancelling my order for the UK disc thats terrible!!

10-12-2011, 10:27 PM	#45
Bad Sandwich Special Member Member since:Jan 2011 Trading Score:1	^ Look everyone - it's the Lionsgate treatment!

10-13-2011, 01:43 PM	#47
McCrutchy Contributor Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:East Coast, USA Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1276 Blu-ray collection:6790 DVD collection:254 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:17	I can't imagine that these screenshots represent what is on the finalized disc. If that's the case, then someone at Freemantle has made a major error. Where are these screenshot comparisons coming from?

10-13-2011, 03:39 PM	#49
nekromantik Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Bristol, UK Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:549	I can be 90% sure its real and will be that bad on the disc. when there are 2 studios releasing a movie in different countries this does happen,

10-13-2011, 03:50 PM	#50
McCrutchy Contributor Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:East Coast, USA Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1276 Blu-ray collection:6790 DVD collection:254 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:17	This is distressing. I may have to get the Freemantle disc for the excellent extras, but I'm really not a fan of the approach that they have taken if that Home Cinema Choice article is correct. Hopefully, some authoritative sources will weigh in in the coming weeks.

10-13-2011, 07:08 PM	#51
Dust Devil Senior Member Member since:Aug 2008	I'm so glad I got the US BD. This looks absolutely crappy !

10-13-2011, 07:27 PM	#52
Dan8700 Special Member Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Rome, Italy 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:1178	Crummy. MGM for life.

10-13-2011, 07:30 PM	#53
KubrickFan Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Blu-ray collection:319	This looks like the Predator debacle all over again. One version looks filmlike, but doesn't have any bonus features, the other does have extras but looks awful. I love insightful bonus features, but the difference between the two is so huge that anyone who wants this movie, should go for the MGM version.

10-13-2011, 09:17 PM	#54
Leterface Power Member Member since:Dec 2008 Blu-ray collection:92 Blu-ray reviews:1	Just ordered the USA version for $9.99 - thanks for posting here the screencaps.

10-21-2011, 08:42 PM	#58
L'armée des ombres Contributor Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:In a Galaxy far far away 4K collection:437 Blu-ray collection:1398 DVD collection:120 Blu-ray reviews: 21	Are there no reviews yet?? The release is in 3 days...i would have thought someone should have this by now Cheers MM

10-21-2011, 09:47 PM	#59
magnum_valentino Active Member Member since:May 2011 Blu-ray collection:3	Amazon sends me the occasional product for review: they're almost always straight-to-DVD films starring the likes of Stone Cold Steve Austin, but one of this week's choices was Straw Dogs, so I've a free copy on its way. Given the sentiments on here I might just sell it on, or I'll trade if anyone wants it...

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