I love laser TV

[jhoffs_cb7]

i think blu and my 60" DLP are gonna keep me happy for years

[Jmobie]

I agree that it seems the next TV war will include OLED and Laser, but:

1.) when is this going to happen? When is 2160p coming?
2.) Will a current Blu-ray player be able to play 2160p discs?
3.) Will these new TV technologies employ 2160p or better?
4.) How long will a new LED-backlighted LCD (released this year) be considered a "current" technology?


These new technologies are just popping up all over the place. It seems like in the future, a TV will be "old" after 5 years or even sooner like cellphones now, way before it dies out.

[bassbone57]

I have seen two Mits LaserVue TV's one on a show floor and one in a home. I ISF calibrated both of them and let me tell you, the claim of huge color reproduction is very true. The color gamut measurements are off the CIE chart (well, to the very edges actually) and very vivid. But I think they are very hard to look at not calibrated. They are very, *very* bright and very, *very* vivid, so much so that my (and others) eyes hurt after about 15 mintues of not calibrated viewing, causing a headache for a couple of us. The claims they make are true, but don't make for an accurate picture. Once calibrated they look good, but not much better than a normal DLP set, and not Kuro good IMO.

The "sparkle" that is talked about is very true also. If you take a laser pointer and point at a wall with it on, you can see a flex or sparkle in the dot. It is the exact same as the TV has all over the screen all the time. If you are a long distance away, it's not too noticable. But if you are at a normal viewing distance, you can see it pretty noticably.

It's a good TV, but by no means the best thing out there. It has a long way to go before it's a "Kuro Killer".

-K

[Halcro 1]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Its going to suck when we walk into stores (in a few years) and see a 60 incher.....and contemplate selling our houses to put a down payment on one.

Your Sony was alot when it first came out... You are talking about state of the art as of now ... Prices will come down ..Dlp HD TVs were 5k when they first came out now they are 1000 are are almost obosolete ... Kind of a Dumb comment...

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Jmobie

I agree that it seems the next TV war will include OLED and Laser, but:

1.) when is this going to happen? When is 2160p coming?
2.) Will a current Blu-ray player be able to play 2160p discs?
3.) Will these new TV technologies employ 2160p or better?
4.) How long will a new LED-backlighted LCD (released this year) be considered a "current" technology?


These new technologies are just popping up all over the place. It seems like in the future, a TV will be "old" after 5 years or even sooner like cellphones now, way before it dies out.

1. Not for at least 10-12 years.
2. No.
3. No.
4. Until OLED becomes viable for bigger screen sizes.

[Hoosier317]

The laser tv from Mits landed with loud thud. A very hefty price tag for picture quality that wasn't even top notch...

[Halcro 1]

Originally Posted by Hoosier317

The laser tv from Mits landed with loud thud. A very hefty price tag for picture quality that wasn't even top notch...

Agreed 100%

[Steelmaker]

So can we all agree that for the time being, plasma (at least the high end sets) is still king overall for....

1.) Black levels
2.) Contrast
3.) Viewing angles
4.) Motion
5.) overall picture quality.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

So can we all agree that for the time being, plasma (at least the high end sets) is still king overall for....

1.) Black levels
2.) Contrast
3.) Viewing angles
4.) Motion
5.) overall picture quality.

Sharp's RGB LED LCD wins on contrast, black level and motion (and therefore PQ), but it costs $11k for a 52"!

[Squozen]

Originally Posted by guitarist155

my projector only uses 250w

My projector uses 130W - do I win a prize?

Seriously, I'd love a laser front projector and I have high hopes for the technology dropping in price in the future.

[Heart_Collector]

Originally Posted by bassbone57

I have seen two Mits LaserVue TV's one on a show floor and one in a home. I ISF calibrated both of them and let me tell you, the claim of huge color reproduction is very true. The color gamut measurements are off the CIE chart (well, to the very edges actually) and very vivid. But I think they are very hard to look at not calibrated. They are very, *very* bright and very, *very* vivid, so much so that my (and others) eyes hurt after about 15 mintues of not calibrated viewing, causing a headache for a couple of us. The claims they make are true, but don't make for an accurate picture. Once calibrated they look good, but not much better than a normal DLP set, and not Kuro good IMO.

The "sparkle" that is talked about is very true also. If you take a laser pointer and point at a wall with it on, you can see a flex or sparkle in the dot. It is the exact same as the TV has all over the screen all the time. If you are a long distance away, it's not too noticable. But if you are at a normal viewing distance, you can see it pretty noticably.

It's a good TV, but by no means the best thing out there. It has a long way to go before it's a "Kuro Killer".

-K

I must admit, this is disheartening. Laser was the one I'm saving up for. However, this is the one and only time I've read anything negative (I consider "not much better than regular DLP", and little sparkles all over the screen as negative).

[guitarist155]

Originally Posted by Squozen

My projector uses 130W - do I win a prize?

Seriously, I'd love a laser front projector and I have high hopes for the technology dropping in price in the future.

what projector????

[vgcrepairs]

I attended CES 2009 and looked at the laservue, it was great as long as you where looking dead on, the side views are very dark and grey, I was unimpressed after that.

On non HD, it is VERY VERY GRAINY LOOKING, like posted above sparkly, I could not stand to look at it, seemed to really bother my eyes, my impression on non HD, was HORRIBLLLLEEEE

[Zvi]

One thing I remember clearly, was the promise that Laser TVs would be significantly cheaper than comparable Plasmas and LCDs, while having superior PQ and energy consumption. Sadly, that is not the case.
Having only 1 model from just 1 manufacturer doesn't help at all. Mitsu didn't introduce new LV this year right?

[Halcro 1]

Originally Posted by Vlad44

My own 60A3000 in the beginning was $4000, I took it for only $1700 last Xmas. Feel the difference.

Im jumping on this thread late , and I havent read all the posts But you have the same display as I ,, And the laserview isnt really any better ....Too little too late... I think Mits is just grabbing straws

[[1080-p]]

Originally Posted by vgcrepairs

I attended CES 2009 and looked at the laservue, it was great as long as you where looking dead on, the side views are very dark and grey, I was unimpressed after that.

On non HD, it is VERY VERY GRAINY LOOKING, like posted above sparkly, I could not stand to look at it, seemed to really bother my eyes, my impression on non HD, was HORRIBLLLLEEEE

thats because it wasn't meant to display non-hd its a HDtv
http://www.sed-fernseher.eu/what-means-laser-tv
http://www.tvsnob.com/archives/010602.php

now if only they could hook up miniature holographic projectors

[RustyK94]

I still OLED is the why forward given just how thin the TV's are. The only problem right now is there life span.

So hopefully they can sort that soon.

[DaViD Boulet]

laser and LED will excite me when the move into hi-fi 1080p (front) projectors so we can eliminate the bulb.

[Trogdor2010]

I remember these sets were to be cheap 50 inch 1080p TVs. But that is the opposite.

[john_1958]

i'm looking forward to when all hdtvs look like this lasertv http://blogs.consumerreports.org/ele...rojection.html

http://www.avguide.com/article/mitsu...-retail-stores

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/20464.cfm ---six bluray players reviewed