Take That McG - Michael Bay Takes a Shot at Terminator! - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Mxr5150 · 01-11-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

Like South Park is the expert in knowing what is good....

Well, I'd say they [Trey and Matt] have hit pretty close to the mark on... well... a lot, but I am a biased Die-hard South Park fan. But hey, I still enjoyed Transformers... it's probably one of the ONLY Bay movies I'll watch... but I like it.

Septimus Prime · 01-11-2009, 09:28 AM

I liked how Mr. Bay emphasized that he'll have "ROBOTS KICKING ASS."

I'm hyped.

Cplhicks · 01-11-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Septimus Prime

I liked how Mr. Bay emphasized that he'll have "ROBOTS KICKING ASS."

I'm hyped.

You mean instead of the first movie, which was mostly humans kicking robot ass? I still worry. They're claiming this is the biggest co-military film ever, which means more military porn and more pointless human characters while the robots are largely ignored.

caliminius · 01-11-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gamma626

They had all of the remaining half of 2007 to write it, plus they knew it would have a sequel so they were probably writing it before Transformers 1 came out. The only thing that was rushed would be the filming. May-June 2008. or something like that.

Did you see the first Transformers movie? They didn't need much of a plot for that one and I don't have high hopes for the second. An 8-year-old playing with a bunch of toys could put together a better plot in a half hour than Transformers 2 will have (and the dialogue wouldn't be as lame).

caliminius · 01-11-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by icecream

ah, same ol' Michael Bay, talking out his ass again.

Too bad that's where his scripts come from too...

caliminius · 01-11-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by matthieuxdetoux

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2008/BigTrannie2.jpg

I'm actually pretty apprehensive about Terminator: Salvation. Those Charlie's Angels movies were soooooooooo awful.

Could they have picked a worse file name than "BigTrannie2" ? I was actually afraid I'd be linked over to a porn image of a fat she-male.

andyman1970 · 01-11-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

Terminator is plot and character driven, whereas Transformers is all special effects with a terrible concept and story behind it.

Oh come on!!! What's so plot and character driven about Terminator? Robots come from the future to kill a woman for giving birth to the leader of the resistance. Never mind the fact that the father of the child is a man who returned from the future to stop the robot from killing her. Talk about plot holes. Transformers and Terminator are both good and cheesy action movies that rely heavily on special effects.

Sussudio · 01-11-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by andyman1970

Oh come on!!! What's so plot and character driven about Terminator? Robots come from the future to kill a woman for giving birth to the leader of the resistance. Never mind the fact that the father of the child is a man who returned from the future to stop the robot from killing her. Talk about plot holes. Transformers and Terminator are both good and cheesy action movies that rely heavily on special effects.

much disagreement here. i really didn't like transformers but im not gonna dog it here since thats not my point. however, i will defend terminator....it was far from a cheesy action movie. if you actually read the script and watch the movie for more than the special effects you'll realize there are layers upon layers of themes throughout the entire thing. it isn't just a shoot em up with 80s haircuts.

now terminator III, you got me there. the script was written and the movie produced purely to capitalize on the profits of the first 2.

andyman1970 · 01-11-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DoYouBlu

much disagreement here. i really didn't like transformers but im not gonna dog it here since thats not my point. however, i will defend terminator....it was far from a cheesy action movie. if you actually read the script and watch the movie for more than the special effects you'll realize there are layers upon layers of themes throughout the entire thing. it isn't just a shoot em up with 80s haircuts.

now terminator III, you got me there. the script was written and the movie produced purely to capitalize on the profits of the first 2.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I like Terminator a lot and I've seen it dozens of times but I just don't see the layers of themes.

Sussudio · 01-11-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by andyman1970

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I like Terminator a lot and I've seen it dozens of times but I just don't see the layers of themes.

im ok with that

FIDDYPOP · 01-11-2009, 06:35 PM

Every one rips off everyone else. Its the way of life. sonce everyone is influenced by other people.

richard lichtenfelt · 01-13-2009, 12:01 AM

Simpsons did it!

GreenScar · 01-13-2009, 04:17 AM

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Last Friday, we published a quote from Michael Bay where he had made fun of "certain movies coming out" that were "trying to duplicate Transformer size robots in their ads." Bay's quipped, "Please, come on." Obviously he was taking a shot at McG and his giant Terminators. Well, now it's McG's turn to fire back! The director recently moderated a special presentation in New York City of Terminator Salvation footage. He was asked about Bay's statement and what he thought of the Transformers comparison. We weren't in attendance, but Sara from Comcast was and has published McG's response for us to read.

"It bothers me to tell you the truth. Ultimately, our large robots have nothing to do with the Transformers robots," McG said. "I say with respect, giant robots have been the theme of film for a real long time. So we want to do everything we can to create separation. Our film's about T-800s and the Marcus character and the Connor character, and this, that, and the other. So, to have people have a problem with that wouldn't be working for us so we want to make sure there's separation."

Not the kind of bold statement we were hoping to see, but then again, McG was surrounded by members of the press and he did his best to remain calm and collected. I'm not trying to start a war between these two, because that's completely unnecessary. As Sara asks: "Is this just a case of a few Hollywood boys fighting over their extremely explosive toys?" Probably, but that doesn't mean it's not fun to sit back and watch, right? We're obviously going to be judging these two movies in May and June (respectively) when they hit theaters anyway. Plus it's fun to rile up fans and give them something to fight for in the end.

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Sith · 01-13-2009, 04:32 AM

All this will do is make both movies bigger....

As to what he said, I think it's b.s., the scenes from the future in the Terminator series have consistently shown robots that size...

statikcat · 01-13-2009, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sith

All this will do is make both movies bigger....

As to what he said, I think it's b.s., the scenes from the future in the Terminator series have consistently shown robots that size...

Not really.. they were tanks with tread wheels. Nothing with 2 walking legs.

Sith · 01-13-2009, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by statikcat

Not really.. they were tanks with tread wheels. Nothing with 2 walking legs.

They were still that size, and the clips were extremely brief...

Also like someone else pointed out the first Terminator was done so long
ago the CG was very basic compared to todays standards...

thedarkangel1975 · 01-13-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DoYouBlu

much disagreement here. i really didn't like transformers but im not gonna dog it here since thats not my point. however, i will defend terminator....it was far from a cheesy action movie. if you actually read the script and watch the movie for more than the special effects you'll realize there are layers upon layers of themes throughout the entire thing. it isn't just a shoot em up with 80s haircuts.

now terminator III, you got me there. the script was written and the movie produced purely to capitalize on the profits of the first 2.

I disagree. I like The Terminator movies, but the first two are almost the same. Think about this. Robot comes back from the future try ing to kill the mom, a bunch people die, and the climax is a wear house/machine shop type such building. Terminator 2 same thing except they go after the kid instead.

fighthefutureofhd · 01-13-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blooded predator

to me it doesnt matter as this is all part of the process of hyping up ones movie over the other just as long as the movies are good heres hoping for good summer movies again

but if michael bay really wants to complain that msg is stealing the concept of bigger robots than i think he should go back and watch the terminator films again

msg? oh my god!!!! that is so funny!!!!

Squozen · 01-14-2009, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sith

They were still that size, and the clips were extremely brief...

Also like someone else pointed out the first Terminator was done so long
ago the CG was very basic compared to todays standards...

So basic that it didn't exist. It was stop-motion animation, not CGI.

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01-11-2009, 09:28 AM	#42
Septimus Prime Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:164 Trading Score:2	I liked how Mr. Bay emphasized that he'll have "ROBOTS KICKING ASS." I'm hyped.

01-11-2009, 06:35 PM	#51
FIDDYPOP Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Chi-Town Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:444 Blu-ray reviews:1	Every one rips off everyone else. Its the way of life. sonce everyone is influenced by other people.

01-13-2009, 12:01 AM	#52
richard lichtenfelt Power Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:I'm not drunk, I'm just tired cause I been up all night drinking. Blu-ray reviews:3	Simpsons did it!

01-13-2009, 04:32 AM	#54
Sith Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Seal Beach, CA Blu-ray collection:168	All this will do is make both movies bigger.... As to what he said, I think it's b.s., the scenes from the future in the Terminator series have consistently shown robots that size...

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