Too many underestimate Blu-ray

[Siri]

Haven't tried to bring anyone to the BluSide...yet

[Avond]

Originally Posted by richieb1971

1) A friend told me he preferred DVD because the sharpness/brightness of blu ray hurt his eye's.

Okay, I've been having a really bad week, but I just about fell off the chair laughing when I read this


On a side note, all the females you guys know must be completely blind....I'm female and my friends who are females can all see the difference between blu-ray and DVDs, and my TV and setup aren't all that great.

[krazeyeyez]

Originally Posted by Avond

Okay, I've been having a really bad week, but I just about fell off the chair laughing when I read this


On a side note, all the females you guys know must be completely blind....I'm female and my friends who are females can all see the difference between blu-ray and DVDs, and my TV and setup aren't all that great.

well hello hello jk

i gotta agree but that goes without saying, i know when i look at the list of movies i use to show off my system they are "guy flicks", batman, transformer, loud action oriented movies, not to say that some girls havnt commented on the difference, they just dont seem to exhibit the same awe factor my guy friends do.

i agree i dont understand how people that have seen my setup are not dying to go blu on their tv, i have only had one friend convert lol and he has horrible taste in movies so it sucks for me as far as borrowing is concerned

[Avond]

Originally Posted by krazeyeyez

well hello hello jk

i gotta agree but that goes without saying, i know when i look at the list of movies i use to show off my system they are "guy flicks", batman, transformer, loud action oriented movies, not to say that some girls havnt commented on the difference, they just dont seem to exhibit the same awe factor my guy friends do.

i agree i dont understand how people that have seen my setup are not dying to go blu on their tv, i have only had one friend convert lol and he has horrible taste in movies so it sucks for me as far as borrowing is concerned

Hello to you too

lol j/k

One day I hope to have the awe-inspiring A/V setup in a beautiful HT that so many of you have here....THEN my life will be complete!!!

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Blu Man

All my freind think i'm crazy for going Blu. They think it's just gonna turn out like Laserdisc.

Ignoring the fact that BD is already past LD's peak market penetration, would that really be so bad? LD existed as a niche for years and years and years only finally being supplanted by DVD. I wouldn't mind a 20 year run with BD, even if more people use DVD during those 20 years. So long as the studios remain supportive, it's all gravy.

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Also, those TVs in Wal-Mart and other big retail chains that have the Blu-ray player and HDTV playing a movie always look horrible. Last time I was there, they were playing Wall-E, and it looked worse than the DVD.

My local Target playing a demo disc with clips from Spider-man 3 on a ~30 inch screen is what got me excited about BD. Not all in-store demos are bad.

I took DVD's and Blu rays to work and on that HDTV I couldn't honestly say BD was any better. The details are squished because the picture is so small so its like taking everything away from BD.

Not ANY better? I can totally understand saying it's not "that much" better, but it is certainly better, even if the full "betterness" of it doesn't shine through at that small of a size.

[FinalEvangelion]

It's the adoption cycle. Blu-ray, like any other product, has a different value for different people. People like us on the forum will obviously spend more on Blu-ray to have it before most other people. This holiday, Blu-ray has shown it will stay in the market and go beyond niche like UMD, LD, MD (outside Japan).

In a couple years, probably all DVD players sold in store will also play BD. When people replace DVD players, they will go for BD. Eventually, new releases will hit <$25. $23 is my guess because of inflation.

[Blu-ray Neo]

Originally Posted by italiano17771

nothing against females, but i find myself having a much harder time showing them the difference. its alot easier with guys...once they see and hear they can appreciate the difference. just my experience.

When I got my first Blu-ray player, my wife noticed a difference between BD and DVD immediately. She commented on the clarity, sharpness, along with the color difference.

The first BD that we purchased/played was Underworld: Evolution. Since we had it on DVD as well, she made the comparison and was hooked.

Anyone that can't see a difference between BD & DVD needs a CATSCAN ASAP!

[richieb1971]

There is no reason BD can't last 20 years. As long as people like buying discs there shouldn't be any problem. Technologically you would need even bigger screens to get a benefit of a higher resolution. 3D seems to have been taken care of and will get better.

The biggest factor for not going blu seems to be that people don't want to pay for movies/or pay more/ and blu ray does nothing for storylines of movies. Which I agree. Its just a better medium to show off with, but you don't need it. Well I do. Sorta. Ok I give in, I'm a sucker for it.

My friends don't have enough expendable income to buy blu ray. Plus they are not the type of people that want libraries of movies either. If I could, I would put all my blu's on a HDD because I think having all that packaging lying around is just a bit much. I'm up to 126 and the end of next week and its getting a tad ridiculous.

[UFAlien]

No difference on a 32" screen?

That must be a REALLY crappy TV.

[brps3]

When I first got HD channels my wife couldnt understand why. So I showed her the difference between the regular channels and then the Hi-def version of the same channel.

"Okay honey here's channel 5, now here's channel 5 in HD."

She was impressed.

Movie wise however. Well, since I dont have HDMI cables, due to the fact my Sylvania only has 1 HDMI input. The pictures are better but not as impressive.

[seigneur_rayden]

There is this dude I work with who bought Saw V on blu. So I ask him:" U buy blu-rays now?" Here is his response:
" yeah but I play it on my PS3, it is not high definition but that what I can afford; I wish I could afford high definition DVDs. High definition DVDs are 5 times better".

I was like: Dude, blu-ray is high def, PS3 is high def and moreover blu-ray is 1000 times better than HD DVD. HD DVD is dead.

[steve1971]

All I do when my freinds come over is pop in a dvd, then a blu ray and right away they see the difference. I also pop in one of my blu ray demo discs and that changes their minds. I have coverted alot of people to HD tv and blu ray the biggest one was my mom and step dad. They saw my 46inch Bravia and how good the picture looked and that was all she wrote. They went out and bought a 40inch Bravia and a blu ray player. Dont underestimate blu ray because it is the future and the future is BLU!

[Clark Kent]

It does not really matter. At some point the naysayers will have Blu-ray discs forced upon them when popular movies are no longer released on dvd. They will come around eventually, no one should worry.

[chriharr]

Originally Posted by richieb1971

A friend told me he preferred DVD because the sharpness/brightness of blu ray hurt his eye's.

That's one thing that made Blu-ray hard for me at first, I have perfect eye sight but the sharper picture at first made me dizzy and the explosions in some movies would be like a bloody flash from a camera and would make me squint for a few seconds.

Sharper and Brighter will tend to give a movie a few too many flaws with some titles.

Originally Posted by richieb1971

Nobody who I know would buy a BD player since it expensive and doesn't offer anything above DVD that they are interested in.

Apart from higher picture and sound quality what decent features does blu-ray offer, not many really "BD-LIVE" oh woopety do, useless IMHO.



Most people I know don't like the motion judder that blu-ray features, sure it's the same as what's shown at a movie theater, but they prefer the modified smooth sped up DVD version, it's what they're used to.

and 1080p 24p is similar but nothing like the real workings of a cinema film projector, not even close.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by paperthrower2000

I think some of my friends think I am in a cult ,( maybe the bluneys )

Originally Posted by QQQQ!

We should start a cult! long live high-def!

Heck, some people here still think I started a gang / cult. <read signature line>

Originally Posted by Uncle Leo

... Some folks just don't have an eye or ear for it and/or just don't care. And that's fine

+1. Other people are jealous and downplay what you have so they don't seem small. In working retail, I discovered many more resentful sociopathic people than I had imagined. "Oh, I just told them that to see what they would do." Hated even more when they played that with me. It really changed the way I see people. I'm not impressed to say the least.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by steve1971

All I do when my freinds come over is pop in a dvd, then a blu ray and right away they see the difference. ...

I have a DVD recorder/player hooked up to the same HDTV as the blu-ray.

I had Monster House in DVD and double dipped for the blu-ray. Both movie menus are the same except for the resolution. It is a very easy and clear way to show people the DVD movie menu and then switch to the blu-ray.

The difference is very apparent, even with both video feeds going through component cables.

[Sonny]

I've never had someone say what's the big deal after seeing Blu-ray on my TV's. The only thing that happends is they want to know if I can 'help' them pick out an HDTV, BD player, BD's, Harmony(1000 ) remote, A/V & Speakers! "How much did that cost"

[Canada]

I didn't read much into DVD the way I read into Blu Ray. what I have heard there was a lot of people who wanted to cut down DVD the same way they are cutting down Blu Ray. Look at DVD now it is the biggest selling form of home media (movies) ever I do belive, 10 years and still going strong. I say we will be saying the same thing about Blu Ray in another 10 years.

[HDPlasma]

Originally Posted by UFAlien

No difference on a 32" screen?

That must be a REALLY crappy TV.

When they are sitting 8-10 feet away from the TV, they won't see a dramatic difference in PQ between blu-ray & DVD.

[SkantDragon]

It's all demonstrating some interesting aspects of human behavior. The difference in video quality between Blu-ray and DVD is actually enormous... much more than the jump from VHS to DVD. That is fact, not opinion. And yet not everyone seems to perceive it for what it is.

Humans are creatures of habit. And switching to Blu-ray represents a change. They are naturally resistant to that. They're used to DVD. DVD is comfortable. They have long since learned to ignore all of the defects, artifacts, and blurriness in DVD. Their minds are filling in the blanks in DVD already... so when they see Blu-ray, it doesn't seem like such a jump to them because their brains have already been 'upconverting' to that quality.

Case in point... I ended up watching the Simpson's movie on DVD rather than Blu-ray. I thought it looked attrocious. There were prominent compression artifact rings around their eyes. When I commented about this to the others watching with me, they simply could not perceive them. The effect was not subtle at all. It's not like it took sharp eyes to see it. It was amazing to me that they couldn't perceive the rings. But there it was. Their minds were automatically erasing the artifacts.

It's much like how we all have blind spots at a particular position in our vision just offset from center, but we can't normally perceive them. Our minds fill in the gaps and errors automatically without us even realizing it.

Where people really notice the difference between Blu-ray and DVD then is not going forward, but going backwards. Once you've gotten used to Blu-ray, then go back to look at DVDs again... well, your mind has gotten used to not erasing those defects subconciously. And so you tend to perceive them for what they really are at that point.

So in the end... when someone is first looking at a Blu-ray video, whether they can tell the difference between that and the DVDs they're used to depends on the degree to which that person sees what is really there rather than what they want to see.

It makes you wonder how much of your perception is actually imagined, doesn't it? Because a lot of it is.