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Old 05-17-2009, 06:09 PM   #41
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Damn ok so its region free

I still think i'll hold out for the UK version in the hope the audio will be fixed by then
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:13 PM   #42
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Yuuuuuup, passing on this title now. I refuse to pay full price for something that I know is flawed. Certainly wouldn't call it minor either.

I'll just stick to my DVD version of the film until this is properly addressed.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:13 PM   #43
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I guarantee you guys own plenty of titles you wish sounded as good as Inside Man with both rear channels dead for the entire film. I wouldn't hold off on this, just like I wouldn't hold off on the initial release of POTC for its video glitch. Disney eventually fixed that and sent replacements to owners. Hopefully Universal will do something similar, but there is no way I would tell people to avoid this great movie with its superb video and dynamic audio, regardless of a problem with the right surround. Even with the problem, the release far surpasses the audio performance of most BDs.
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I must agree with Greg. I still plan on buying this, it's not enough of an issue to merit skipping out on a great release.
A dead channel for over 30 minutes (the films climax) is not a reason to hold off? It surely must have a horribly unbalanced "feel". And after 90 minutes of surround, the loss of the channel must feel jarring.

I will error on the side of caution and wait for more info before buying.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:15 PM   #44
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It's not dead. There is bass content audible in the right surround which digitalfreakNY didn't pick up.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:17 PM   #45
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It's insane that you're defending a MAJOR defect.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:17 PM   #46
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It's better than just ok. It has REFERENCE QUALITY audio performance for the majority of the film.

The Mona Lisa is flawed, but if I could afford it, I'd buy it.
Greg. The BD appears to be defective. How can you recommend it?
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:20 PM   #47
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Listen to it and you'll know how I could recommend it. Even during the last half hour, it's damn impressive.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:28 PM   #48
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It's insane that you're defending a MAJOR defect.
I'd call it a minor defect, and have you even heard the audio performance of this BD or are you just grabbing a pitchfork and torch and knocking on doors?

Let cooler heads prevail.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:28 PM   #49
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It's insane that you're defending a MAJOR defect.
I don't think its so much that he is defending but that he is still majorly impressed by the audio even though the right surround is not that active for the last part of the movie.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:43 PM   #50
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At first, digitalfreakNY didn't realize the right rear channel was fully engaged for the first 133 minutes of the film, so I wouldn't cast him as the end-all be-all of audio perception.

As for the rest of you, you need to LISTEN before casting judgment.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:43 PM   #51
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I'd call it a minor defect, and have you even heard the audio performance of this BD or are you just grabbing a pitchfork and torch and knocking on doors?

Let cooler heads prevail.
Since it is clearly a defect, isnt it best to recommend that your readers hold off while you contact Uni to see what their intentions are? It just seems that so many BD consumers are quite critical of PQ and AQ issues, that you may want to play it safe. I know a lot of folks on this site are more into AQ than PQ and I assume this issue will be a huge let down like it was for the OP. Just seems like the safe/right thing to do for the readers.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:49 PM   #52
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Yes, we'll try to get an answer ASAP.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:53 PM   #53
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Yes, we'll try to get an answer ASAP.
I posted the link to the thread over at the Digital Bits' insider thread also. I'm disappointed that an error like this could slip through QA and have to think they'll do a fix at some point.
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I posted the link to the thread over at the Digital Bits' insider thread also. I'm disappointed that an error like this could slip through QA and have to think they'll do a fix at some point.
Thanks. Good move. Allthough I have not seen/heard the BD yet, I can say that I am fairly certain this would deeply bother me, and I'd prefer to avoid the whole exchange hassle with Amazon or Uni.
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Yes, we'll try to get an answer ASAP.
Thanks.
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Old 05-17-2009, 07:02 PM   #56
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It seems like a very major issue to me as well. Personally, I would call it a major defect.
+1. Even though its 1/20 of the audio mix, in my opinion it would kill the whole movie watching experience.
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Old 05-17-2009, 07:10 PM   #57
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+1. Even though its 1/20 of the audio mix, in my opinion it would kill the whole movie watching experience.
On the contrary, the performance of "Chaiyya Chaiyya" even on the closing credits with the omission of treble/midrange from the right surround is absolute audio bliss.
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Old 05-17-2009, 07:14 PM   #58
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So if I'm getting this correct, this issue will have no effect on those of us that do not have surround sound. This is one of my favorite movies, and for about $20 is still worth a buy in my opinion.
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So if I'm getting this correct, this issue will have no effect on those of us that do not have surround sound. This is one of my favorite movies, and for about $20 is still worth a buy in my opinion.
Yes, I absolutely recommend it to you.
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Old 05-17-2009, 07:15 PM   #60
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Since it is clearly a defect, isnt it best to recommend that your readers hold off while you contact Uni to see what their intentions are? It just seems that so many BD consumers are quite critical of PQ and AQ issues, that you may want to play it safe. I know a lot of folks on this site are more into AQ than PQ and I assume this issue will be a huge let down like it was for the OP. Just seems like the safe/right thing to do for the readers.
I agree...they might delay this movie awhile or offer an exchange being as it isn't even released yet.
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