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Old 05-02-2025, 05:44 PM   #6001
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OK, this was rather unexpected, but Universal actually replied to my request for clarification which I sent them a few days ago.

Here's the content of those emails (mine and theirs) in full:

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Apr 26, 2025, 1:38 PM PDT

UNIVERSAL SUPPORT EMAIL

Request Details
Product: Disc Formats

Technical Information
Title: Jurassic Park

Comments or Questions:
Hi!

The new edition of the (original) Jurassic Park Trilogy, due for release in 17 June 2025, is said to be "newly remastered". What exactly does this mean? Has it been rescaned from the original negatives, i.e. is it a completely new transfer? Or has it simply been regraded for Dolby Vision? I'm mostly concerned about the first Jurassic Park movie (1993), widely considered as the one with the weakest (existing) 4K transfer. Any additional insight/details on what exactly has been done with these (supposed) new transfers would be much appreciated.

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Hello,

Thank you for contacting Universal support, we appreciate your interest.

The new Dolby Vision masters & Atmos audio were upgrades from the previous masters for all 4 movies.

Jurassic Park and Lost World were originally transferred from the 4K Original Negative.

The new Dolby Vision masters were created using the original masters from the previous transfers with updated color applied to all four titles.

The Atmos mixes for all four films were new mixes from the original audio masters that were re-mixed at Skywalker.

Thank you,
Universal Support.
What do you make of this? Their reply appears to be slightly contradictory.
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Old 05-02-2025, 05:53 PM   #6002
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What do you make of this? Their reply appears to be slightly contradictory.
I think whoever wrote that is as confused about these releases as everyone else.
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Old 05-02-2025, 06:03 PM   #6003
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I think whoever wrote that is as confused about these releases as everyone else.
HAHAHAHA! Now perhaps they've gone back to an original un-altered scan file that doesn't have DNR baked in. Sadly, the wording still leaves things up in the air and unresolved.
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Old 05-02-2025, 06:17 PM   #6004
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ChatGPT's interpretation:

Here’s what the response confirms:

1. Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos are confirmed:
> "The new Dolby Vision masters & Atmos audio were upgrades from the previous masters for all 4 movies."

So yes, the upcoming discs will include DV and DA, and the Atmos mixes are new, remixed at Skywalker from original audio masters.

2. No new film scans:
> "The new Dolby Vision masters were created using the original masters from the previous transfers..."

This strongly suggests that there was not a new 4K scan of the original camera negatives for Jurassic Park or Jurassic Park III (or any of them, really). They reused the same transfers that were done earlier—likely the ones many fans complained about.

3. Color grading updates only:
> "...with updated color applied to all four titles."

This means the main visual change is a new color grade for Dolby Vision, not a new transfer or remaster from raw scans.

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What does this mean for fans like us?

- If your main issue was the existing transfer (especially JP1 and JP3), this release likely won’t fix that, aside from potential improvements in dynamic range and color through Dolby Vision.
- It’s essentially a regrade of the same old 4K transfer, not a new remaster from the original film elements.
- So unless they did something drastically different in the color grading to fix the issues we care about (which seems unlikely without mentioning it explicitly), we probably won’t see the level of improvement we’re hoping for.
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Old 05-02-2025, 06:19 PM   #6005
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Old 05-02-2025, 06:20 PM   #6006
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ChatGPT is most definitely the key to solving this conundrum.
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Old 05-02-2025, 06:22 PM   #6007
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So yes, the upcoming discs will include DV and DA, and the Atmos mixes are new, remixed at Skywalker from original audio masters.
Well, at least the Atmos mixes are from Skywalker Sound themselves and not DTS Calabasas. Should be a big upgrade right there.

It is possible to regrade the films with the existing film transfers. So the color grades may indeed be vastly different. The existing scan likely has no issues, its what you do with that scan afterwards that's key (grading, HDR, DNR, etc.).

So we'll see.
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So of all 6 discs, the only ones with new artwork are Jurassic Park and JP III, the two that badly needed new transfers. Hopefully that’s a good sign
That... is a good sign not gonna lie
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What do you make of this?


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So of all 6 discs, the only ones with new artwork are Jurassic Park and JP III, the two that badly needed new transfers. Hopefully that’s a good sign


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That... is a good sign not gonna lie
But it makes no sense because The Lost World, even if it reuses the existing master, will still get a new disc with DV and Atmos so why not give it a new artwork?

It's so annoying!

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If you want to get more into the weeds the Uni response noted that the previous masters for “all 4 movies” were being re-used, which doesn’t make sense since it’s a question was pertaining to the original three movies. So if you were to take into account all six “Jurassic” movies, four of which seem to retain the original disc artwork (and have transfers that have been praised), then of course those four films wouldn’t need a remaster but simply a DV color application while the other two films had more work done and they decided to update the disc artwork as well. Or maybe they accidentally typed 4 and not 3.
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So what they're meaning is one of two things; the masters were given a DV pass, or the transfers were newly remastered with DV passes. Unfortunately remains to be seen what we'll get!
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I like that Universal responded to a question about the original trilogy release, yet continually reference 'all 4 movies' in their response.
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What do you make of this? Their reply appears to be slightly contradictory.
Same masters upgraded to DV and DA. So no new scans or anything. At least this how I understand it.

Question remains if DNR is baked to the the master of the first movie. And if not, is Uni even see it as a problem, and is willing to reign it down?
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If you want to get more into the weeds the Uni response noted that the previous masters for “all 4 movies” were being re-used, which doesn’t make sense since it’s a question was pertaining to the original three movies. So if you were to take into account all six “Jurassic” movies, four of which seem to retain the original disc artwork (and have transfers that have been praised), then of course those four films wouldn’t need a remaster but simply a DV color application while the other two films had more work done and they decided to update the disc artwork as well. Or maybe they accidentally typed 4 and not 3.
I assumed the four movies they were referring to were JP1-3 + JW since those were previously released on disc with HDR10 only, while the last two had DV. If that's true, it could provide further evidence that there really aren't new transfers, only a new Dolby Vision grade/encode, since JW would have no need for a real remaster.
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ChatGPT is most definitely the key to solving this conundrum.
I think ChatGPT might have written the response to start with.

To me, it sounds like some regrading was done to the existing 4K masters, and that the audio is a new remix from the original stems.

For the former, it probably won't be night and day, but there might be some potential for improvement to the color, at least. As for the latter, I'd prefer the original audio tracks, but Skywalker does pretty well with this sort of thing, so maybe that'll be an improvement on the previous releases, too.
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