Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[KMFDMvsEnya]

I think they might be updating the MA/Vudu streams right now, I cannot play it on either platform.
Itunes is still HD SDR 5.1 on my AppleTV.

[samuelkhan999]

My itunes copy was jumping between HD/Atmos to DV/Atmos to HD only and the back to DV/Atmos.
Like I mentioned earlier, I don't feel much of a difference. However, it looks like itunes copy got a bit of grain.

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

I think he's confused/mistaken - in plenty ways. I think he's refering to Divisa's reissues of Avatar 1 and 2 in standard 4K form, just with the DV disc. I reported about that. But it's still confusing because that's Disney, not Universal. Universal is just barely starting with these type of reissues and we don't know how far they're gonna go with them just yet.



I own some of the discs (not all, but half) and I think they're actually pretty good discs, unless someone can prove me wrong. It'd be nice to have Dolby Vision, as a total Dolby Vision shill, but I'd honestly save these type of double dip reissues to 4Ks that really need fixing, in form of better master or comprpession, things like these. As I said before Universal only just dipped their toes with this one (and Shaun of the Dead) they're testing the waters, so to speak. We should not expect them to suddenly reissue a lot of discs with these 'updates'.

My mistake there. I meant Divisa. I got my JP4k steelbook from Amazon Italy as an individual Steelbook. The Yellow 4k steelbook is actually part of the 4k Ultimate steelbook set in the UK/US.

There is always a possibility JP 1-3 and JW could get a 4k DV reissue in a niche market like Spain or Italy.

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by jpanimation

Ok, watched a little of the 4k version and its seems like no increase in detail. Any dirt or specs are still there. I believe you're paying for the magenta removal and Dolby Vision

If you could share any timestamps with the prominent magenta colour, I can share 2 more image comparisons of the 4k BD and iTunes.

[Darth Marcus]

Doing more sampling of JP DV on Apple and I’m thinking… we won.

[aladdin123]

Thanks for your pictures, samuelkhan999, I just hope that no one here even thinks about analysing DNR and grain structure with pictures taken with a Phone. The most we can get from this is perhaps, emphasis on "perhaps", a very general idea about the colors, but nothing remotely precise.

And yes, I remember seeing people in The Exorcist 4K thread talking about DNR based on pictures from the TV taken with a phone...

[LSK]

What are screenshots from peoples phones proving, with regards to a possible new transfer of Jurassic Park, and why are screenshots from VHS tapes suddenly important?

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

That would explain what I was seeing— looks like they dialed out the magenta push of the old transfer, and it is noticeable and looks better in a lot of the footage I briefly compared.

Hi. If you could share some comparison pics with magenta dialled down, would appreciate it.

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by aladdin123

Thanks for your pictures, samuelkhan999, I just hope that no one here even thinks about analysing DNR and grain structure with pictures taken with a Phone. The most we can get from this is perhaps, emphasis on "perhaps", a very general idea about the colors, but nothing remotely precise.

And yes, I remember seeing people in The Exorcist 4K thread talking about DNR based on pictures from the TV taken with a phone...

Thanks. I do understand pictures from a phone doesn't help give insight towards the DNR and possible other issues.

If there is someone with an iPad pro and has access to JP iTunes 4k, they could share iPad screenshots. Ipad pro does support 4k playback.

[aladdin123]

Originally Posted by samuelkhan999

Thanks. I do understand pictures from a phone doesn't help give insight towards the DNR and possible other issues.

If there is someone with an iPad pro and has access to JP iTunes 4k, they could share iPad screenshots. Ipad pro does support 4k playback.

I wish someone would do that with the new 4K restoration of Sunset Boulevard. And yet, people still haven't given comments about the restoration, nevermind screenshots, and it's been weeks...

[Fiffy]

Originally Posted by samuelkhan999

Thanks. I do understand pictures from a phone doesn't help give insight towards the DNR and possible other issues.

If there is someone with an iPad pro and has access to JP iTunes 4k, they could share iPad screenshots. Ipad pro does support 4k playback.

You can't make screenshots of iTunes 4K content on an iPad due to the DRM.

[400TX]

Originally Posted by samuelkhan999

Also I want to assess if the VHS is open matte all the way or open matte/pan and scan.

Wow it's been a while since I've seen this on VHS!

If it's anything like the full screen DVD (remember those days?), it'll be more openish matte for most shots and pan & scan for the VFX shots as they were only rendered and composited for the 1.85:1 frame.

[Fiffy]

Just sampled a few spots of the iTunes 4K DV version of JP. I haven't compared it to the UHD yet, but it looks really nice, and the Atmos soundtrack is literally bone crushing. The strings in the Dilophosaurus scene are not visible.

[Johnzilla2179]

Adding to the chorus of quick looks, I feel like I can definitely see a difference on JP and JPIII. The color grades in particular seem a *bit* warmer, really favoring golden browns and greens. That's assuming, of course, that it's not just the DV or me seeing things.

JPIII in particular actually looks pretty decent now and seems to drop that dim overcast look it had on the previous release. It actually took me back to when the film was new, when I was a kid and I experienced crushing disappointment in a movie theater for the first time. It's still the worst of the extant six (soon to be seven) films, but I'm glad to see it looking a bit healthier.

TLW hasn't updated for me yet, but I'd imagine it'll turn out to be a downgrade since the others are looking better. Joking aside, I'm really excited to see if it also gets a warmer grade.

[aladdin123]

When will Mike appear to rant that the magenta push in the old transfer is correct and that the new color grading has modernized the film with teal? He'll say that if he sees any teal in the movie. Or any yellow.

[VIDEOgameDROME]

It would be great if they didn't lock the first film in a box set I don't want. I'll buy it on disc if they release it individually.

[mpls1981]

I decided to check it out myself on my projector and from an image perspective, I couldn't see any differences and from what others have already suggested, would have me agree its the same master. I'd give the Atmos track a slight lead over the DTS:X track though. I think an actual comparison would be needed to truly tell just how different the tracks are.

I did give the DV a spin on my TV and I could see a difference, but going from projector to television is already apple to oranges so...

[Johnzilla2179]

Originally Posted by mpls1981

I decided to check it out myself on my projector and from an image perspective, I couldn't see any differences and from what others have already suggested, would have me agree its the same master. I'd give the Atmos track a slight lead over the DTS:X track though. I think an actual comparison would be needed to truly tell just how different the tracks are.

I did give the DV a spin on my TV and I could see a difference, but going from projector to television is already apple to oranges so...

I think the differences are definitely subtle, but they're there. I was thinking the same thing you were before I started noticing refinements in the lighting and color that weren't there previously. Again, could just be the DV (and I didn't even comment on the DNR since it's a stream and I don't have the best eyes for it to begin with). It's by no means a top to bottom improvement, so expectations should be kept in check, but I think this is a healthier presentation for at least two of the films, same masters or not.

[KMFDMvsEnya]

I wish that my digital copy would update to DV/DA already.
It remains HD SDR for now on my Apple TV, even though on itunes it shows as DV/DA.

[HeavyHitter]

So no one can look at the HDR10 version of the new iTunes...pause a frame...and directly compare it to the UHD BD?